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Is west instigating terrorism against Muslims?

Do you have the proof I asked for?

No?

Ok, then, see ya!

What proof nub? If you can't click on links that's none of my business...+ why you deflecting to another thread?

I edited my post up, answer please if you can...

P.S.: you ran out of that thread anyway....
 
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What proof nub? If you can't click on links that's none of my business...+ why you deflecting to another thread?

You are the one who is bringing his hurt ego to this thread for another round of punishment. And you don't understand the difference between independent verification and simply repeating a press release.

Anyway, I tried posting to that thread, but it is screwed up. The website 504 errors have done something to that thread.
 
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You are the one who is bringing his hurt ego to this thread for another round of punishment. And you don't understand the difference between independent verification and simply repeating a press release.

Says the one who repeated the tabloid release and coupled it with logic based on assumptions to form his own conclusions which are nothing but agenda driven speculation. Classy!
And yeah, hurt ego! lol i'm just having fun with a turd like you who cannot answer anything properly...


Any answer to why you see only Muslim imam's preaching hate and not Christians and how this corelates to West instigating terrorism against Muslims??

Do you see anyone in the West preaching hate in such a manner and form apart from disgruntled, jealous immigrants like yourself?
 
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Anyway, I tried posting to that thread, but it is screwed up. The website 504 errors have done something to that thread.

That's funny, it worked well enough for you to thank the last troll's post in there...must be selective errors then :smokin:

im out for a while....but..ill' be back!
 
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^See, the thing is the Hindus never really got the opportunity to place their revenge against the Mughals. The Chinese and the Japanese did get their revenge against the Mongols.

That Sadashiv Rau bhau treated the then Mughal 'emperor' like his doorman was not revenge enough ? ;)
 
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how come you dont see Christian religious officials calling out for the destruction of other religions, followers, establishment of Christian laws, culture all over the world etc?


And I haven't even started on Pat Robertson, the evangelicals and whole rapture prophesy that is believed by many Christians and promoted by Christian leaders.

Says the one who repeated the tabloid release and coupled it with logic based on assumptions to form his own conclusions which are nothing but agenda driven speculation. Classy!

The fact that you still haven't managed to provide the requisite proof says it all.

Let me reiterate with another example: James Randi does not need to prove that psychokinesis doesn't exist. The 'psychic' needs to prove his claims.

Similarly, I am skeptical of your claims. Hence, it is your responsibility to substantiate your claims, not mine.

That is how it works

I don't want to pollute this thread any further. I will deal with you in the other thread when it becomes available again.

P.S.: you ran out of that thread anyway....

You added this edit to your post after my following post. Do you really think the timestamp on your edits doesn't give you away? How petty!
 
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The answer to the thread title is very simple: No. Terrorism is not the sole invention of Muslim Jihadis, but they are the world's leading practitioners of it today. What the "West" is doing is a reaction to Jihadi terrorism.

What the Jihadis are doing is the reaction to the wests meddling in the affairs of their countries e.g. placing puppet rulers over them, stealing their resources e.c.t
 
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Looks like this thread is the ultimate circle jerk for Islamo-supremacists.

Hindu Civilization was comprehensively defeated by the vast Islamic civilization of that time. Islam was in the period of rapid expansion---sorry that your Hindu civilization came across....the result was obvious....it HAD to get slaughtered by Islam and it did. Islam expanded and spreaded throughout Indian subcontinent--and throughout the whole (known) world. Stop whining about it now. The was how it was suppose to happen.

Read my signature noob.

No it not by any Hindu fundamentalist, it is by a Muslim poet whining through his arse how the great caravan of Islamic Civilization which sailed sucessfully across seven seas and defeated everyone came and sank in the Ganges. About the defeated glories of Islam in subcontinent.

And no, don't take pride in the massacres of the Ghaznavids, Ghorids, Timurids etc. Coz that glory was achieved by them only by slaughtering and raping your own folk. We still are what we were forever. It is you who is mentally enslaved and forced to clap your hands in glee at the genocide and rapine of your own blood because your religion demands you 'appreciate' it.

Regarding Pakistan - that will forever be the symbol of your lot's fear of being dominated of us and running away to your own country in the same fear. We instilled fear in you dumass, of being dominated, persecuted by us and that's why a country called Pakistan came in the first place. So save us all the horsecrap and don't try to act all macho. Coz you aren't.
 
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And I haven't even started on Pat Robertson, the evangelicals and whole rapture prophesy that is believed by many Christians and promoted by Christian leaders.

Oh please, this is your argument?

Some nutcase like Pat Robertson to whom noone with an ounce of brain and actual power listens to?
How does that compare to actual madrassas that religiously reeducate population and brainwash them into becoming suicide bombers?

So, you have any examples of Christians being indoctrinated to perform suicide bombings and similar cowardly acts?


The fact that you still haven't managed to provide the requisite proof says it all.

What proof? According to all articles the man was under observations for some time. You don't get on wanted posters for nothing.
If you don't believe it , it's your prerogative however that does not mean it is true.

Let me reiterate with another example: James Randi does not need to prove that psychokinesis doesn't exist. The 'psychic' needs to prove his claims.

^^ just a bunch of dribble meant to deflect the uneducated fans you have into fooling them how "superior" your thinking is.

Similarly, I am skeptical of your claims. Hence, it is your responsibility to substantiate your claims, not mine.
That is how it works

You are sceptical not of my claims, but of claims of just about every major news agency, NATO and Afghan officials.
On the other hand you have not provided any proof that the incident was staged apart from jumping to conclusions.
The fact that you require proof from me that the man was an actual terrorist before you present your evidence speaks how weak you are.
I presented you with a concrete example of how your premature jumping to conclusions based on logic is flawed....

I don't want to pollute this thread any further. I will deal with you in the other thread when it becomes available again.

You do that champ. IMHO you are trying just to save face for the fans with this condescending "ill deal with you later". lol as if you could.


You added this edit to your post after my following post. Do you really think the timestamp on your edits doesn't give you away? How petty!

Uh i edited it while you were typing yours. More sensationalist, agenda driven jumping to conclusions while disregarding all other sane options?

And yeah, you ran out....if the page wouldn't load like you claim you couldn't have thanked the guy posting after me. Stop the BS...please
 
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Oh please, this is your argument?

Some nutcase like Pat Robertson to whom noone with an ounce of brain and actual power listens to?
How does that compare to actual madrassas that religiously reeducate population and brainwash them into becoming suicide bombers?

So, you have any examples of Christians being indoctrinated to perform suicide bombings and similar cowardly acts?

Predictable dance when you get called out. You asked for Christian leaders who want to spread Christianity to other lands. I gave you documented examples so, of course, now you will change the goal posts.

The chaplain in that video was the head chaplain for all US forces in Afghanistan.

What proof? According to all articles the man was under observations for some time. You don't get on wanted posters for nothing.
If you don't believe it , it's your prerogative however that does not mean it is true.

Circular logic.

^^ just a bunch of dribble meant to deflect the uneducated fans you have into fooling them how "superior" your thinking is.

Never mind the fans. Refute the logic if you can.

The burden of proof lies on the claimant, not the skeptic.

You are sceptical not of my claims, but of claims of just about every major news agency, NATO and Afghan officials.
On the other hand you have not provided any proof that the incident was staged apart from jumping to conclusions.
The fact that you require proof from me that the man was an actual terrorist before you present your evidence speaks how weak you are.
I presented you with a concrete example of how your premature jumping to conclusions based on logic is flawed....

All the news agencies are simply repeating the NATO press release. NATO has been caught lying before about.

Ergo, skepticism.

QED.

You do that champ. IMHO you are trying just to save face for the fans with this condescending "ill deal with you later". lol as if you could.

But I have already exposed your avoidance of basic logic. Now I am just toying with ya!

Uh i edited it while you were typing yours. More sensationalist, agenda driven jumping to conclusions while disregarding all other sane options?

Pathetic. Do you think people can't see the timestamp on your earlier post which is long after my following post AND your subsequent reply to my post, BOTH of which are timestamped BEFORE your edit?

Seriously!
 
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Not if you count the official armies of IDF, etc.

For you they may be terrorists. For me they are not. For the world, they are not.

I would consider the army supporting the likes of LET more in that league. And supporting Taliban and OBL's AQ.

This is what happens when you blow smoke without knowing anything. I have always maintained that Muslim/regional countries should settle the matter so outsiders don't get involved.

Apparently, your "maintaining" has not had much effect.

It will come down to either USA or the slaughter continues. None of the Muslim countries have what it takes to put a stop to it.

You people think that just spouting empty words is enough action!

Again, your utter ignorance of Iranian culture is amusing to witness. The brief rule of the Ayatollahs is miniscule in Iranian history.

They are ruling even now!

Only the ignorants think they know it all. Because they don't know what they don't know. ;)

No rhetoric needed when facts are present right here.

Still you resorted to it! Not to the original point, which was:

The issue was always about whether blood is thicker than religion. If Bin Qasim and Gazhani are someone's heroes, that tells us all we need to know.

And it remains one.

And yet you cannot put more than one though together to make a connection.

Well, the connections in your mind seem to have got misconnected. I don't know nor care what connections you make but I don't care for irrelevant connections.

No obsession; just fact. Corroborated by numerous Western sources.

One link has been provided in this thread. Others have been shown in earlier threads which, I know, you read.

Still an obsession. Zionism is not an issue for me. They are not sending terrorists anywhere, they have won 115 Nobel prizes.

You asked for an example. I gave you one. Of course, true to form, you will run away when losing a point.

A stupid example! What do settlements within Palestine have to do with Greater Israel which means areas between the Nile and the Euphrates?

What have they done towards achieving that?

But then facts don't mean anything to your ilk.

I don't care to get into the details, nor do I care, about Hindutva. I just know enough to see the dangers posed by it to civilized people, including secular Indians.

You are just obsessed about something that has no relevance outside India and is just a cultural movement in India.

If they become relevant, I will point them out. So far you have demonstrated gross ignorance in the areas listed.

Yes, I was unlucky not to study in your institute. These nuggets of wisdom, where else one can get them!

Try forming a cogent thought next time instead of hiding in stock phrases when you have no retort.

I meant it.

None. I don't live in the past. Unlike you.

Well, we look to the future with hope. And look to the past for lessons.

Let's add geopolitics to your list of ignorance.

Yes, this is the topic best taught at your world famous institute.

Calling others ignorant while dripping with ignorance and lies and delusions may work for you.

Others see through it. ;)
 
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....dribble and deflection and refusal of sane arguments by Developeonub.....


^^ lol, get a life, im going for drinks with my gorgeous gf, it's beautiful spring in heathen lands of the West!

keep toying...till your dick falls off for all i care....you are too dumb to talk to.
Probably people like you are one of the reasons Islam is where it is today.

Predictable dance when you get called out. You asked for Christian leaders who want to spread Christianity to other lands. I gave you documented examples so, of course, now you will change the goal posts.

The chaplain in that video was the head chaplain for all US forces in Afghanistan.

So where are the western institutions that produce suicide bombers, terror instigators, agitators, brainwashed nuts like yourself?
 
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Dude, develope..you are great.

I mean seriously, your constantly condescending attitude coupled with a superiority complex (i dont know how it is justified),constantly accusing people of being ignorant when you cannot refute a single claim, use of "educated" wording, badly disguised jealousy and consequentially hatred..it's legendary!

You are the whole package!

just answer me this:

how come you dont see Christian religious officials calling out for the destruction of other religions, followers, establishment of Christian laws, culture all over the world etc?

Only Muslim crazy imam's? How does that connect to "West instigating terrorism"?

I know you will skip this because you cant say anything in response...i just wanted to put it out there for other readers.

It only look superiority complex on the surface. We know better from experience. ;)

And yes, you caught the essence of it. Too damn well! Great observation.

constantly accusing people of being ignorant when you cannot refute a single claim, use of "educated" wording, badly disguised jealousy and consequentially hatred..it's legendary!

That comes from a certain kind of shallowness. Like getting good grades in a class filled with dumbos. People start getting delusions about their ability or intelligence.

The real world should have kicked some humility in them but then they form their alternate reality.

This gentleman loses almost every argument. In his own mind, he probaly thinks he wins some of them. ;)
 
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And yeah, you ran out....if the page wouldn't load like you claim you couldn't have thanked the guy posting after me. Stop the BS...please

We're back to reading skills again.

^^ lol, get a life, im going for drinks with my gorgeous gf, it's beautiful spring in heathen lands of the West!

keep toying...till your dick falls off for all i care....you are too dumb to talk to.
Probably people like you are one of the reasons Islam is where it is today.

Your frustration is always a fount of amusement.

Better practice those reading skills in between drinks!
 
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This gentleman loses almost every argument. In his own mind, he probaly thinks he wins some of them. ;)

he is winning it all, Charlie Sheen type winning! :lol:

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