Is it Over ?

[W.11]

russia geography is the worst, inspite of being 11% of world land, its has 90% land unusable, just few oil deposits in siberia, and it has very few ports, most of them snow covered... so its likely russia is going down..

 

[Paan Singh]

In essence this is what India is doing, PAK-FA/ FGFA project is an example. However I don't think that any other country will be able to help Russia. The changes need to come from within, from the people. Unfortunately they face the same problem as we do: corruption to a greater extent.

Russia still has a lot of potential, I don't think t's over yet.

this is wat i said..
their sun won't set ever

 

[Masterchief]

@chinese dragon: who said that Indians always dream of a destabilized China, many of us always take pride when China surpasses west in a particular field.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

this is wat i said..
their sun won't set ever

Russia, as a "nation-state", will never die.

However, whether or not their economy does well, depends on how willing their leadership is to conduct vital economic reforms.

Even if you send money to them, it won't end up being put to good use without reforms.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

@chinese dragon: who said that Indians always dream of a destabilized China, many of us always take pride when China surpasses west in a particular field.

Did you read that article from the IDR think tank, which is recommended reading for the Indian army/navy/air force?

Anyway, it's just my opinion. I could be wrong of course.

From the day India hosted our largest separatist group, till today (half a century later), their behaviour towards China makes me believe that they will never be happy with a powerful Middle Kingdom.

Again, this is my opinion.

 

[LaBong]

Did you read that article from the IDR think tank, which is recommended reading for the Indian army/navy/air force?

Anyway, it's just my opinion. I could be wrong of course.

Dude I think we have expressed in in unequivocal terms that their is no recommend reading of IA/IN/IAF. Anyone can recommend themselves and advertise themselves in free media, how hard it is to understand? I'm really getting offended at the prospect of IDR being India's think-tank. I hope I'd not need to repeat it in future.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Dude I think we have expressed in in unequivocal terms that their is no recommend reading of IA/IN/IAF. Anyone can recommend themselves and advertise themselves in free media, how hard it is to understand? I'm really getting offended at the prospect of IDR being India's think-tank. I hope I'd not need to repeat it in future.

I have never heard you make that argument before, I just stated what I read on the website.

If you have a source that shows that IDR is not recommended reading, then I would be very glad to see it.

Whether or not it is recommended reading though, the point still stands that there are plenty of cheer leaders in India hoping for China to collapse. They make the same prediction year after year, and are never ashamed when it turns out to be wrong.

 

[LaBong]

From the day India hosted our largest separatist group, till today (half a century later), their behaviour towards China makes me believe that they will never be happy with a powerful Middle Kingdom.

Another ad nauseum, you yet to give any proof of GoI politically or economically supporting Tibetan govt in Exile and/or Tibetan govt in Exile indulging in illegal activities in China. Since you people so in love with official statements and stands, why is it so hard to understand that India doesn't recognize Tibetan govt in Exile neither it plays a part in Indian politics.

Well I know I'm hitting my head on wall, but still.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Another ad nauseum, you yet to give any proof of GoI politically or economically supporting Tibetan govt in Exile and/or Tibetan govt in Exile indulging in illegal activities in China. Since you people so in love with official statements and stands, why is it so hard to understand that India doesn't recognize Tibetan govt in Exile neither it plays a part in Indian politics.

Well I know I'm hitting my head on wall, but still.

OK then explain this to me.

1959: Nehru is singing his false song of "Hindi-Chini bhai bhai", China and India are supposedly getting along well.

Then out of nowhere, Nehru decides to host our biggest separatist group, immediately after they failed to overthrow the Chinese government.

Tell me, is that the action of a friend? Or even a "bhai" as Nehru said?

 

[LaBong]

I have never heard you make that argument before, I just stated what I read on the website.

If you have a source that shows that IDR is not recommended reading, then I would be very glad to see it.

Whether or not it is recommended reading though, the point still stands that there are plenty of cheer leaders in India hoping for China to collapse. They make the same prediction year after year, and are never ashamed when it turns out to be wrong.

There can't be any recommended reading of IA/IN/IAF unless it's printed by GoI, which IDR is not. It is as recommended to Indian armed force as Pakistan Defence Forum is to Pakistan Armed Force. Although unlike PDF there are more popular Indian think-tanks available in cyber than IDR.

 

[Dalai Lama]

Back on topic guys. I knew this would end up on Tibet.

*Sigh*

 

[LaBong]

OK then explain this to me.

1959: Nehru is singing his false song of "Hindi-Chini bhai bhai", China and India are supposedly getting along well.

Then out of nowhere, Nehru decides to host our biggest separatist group, immediately after they failed to overthrow the Chinese government.

Tell me, is that the action of a friend? Or even a "bhai" as Nehru said?

This 2010, not 1960, what Nehru did, wrong or right has no relevance in todays time. I neither disapprove or approve Nehru's action simply because I'm not at all informed about the realities in 60s. There are more informed Indians around in this forum, you may ask them.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

There can't be any recommended reading of IA/IN/IAF unless it's printed by GoI, which IDR is not. It is as recommended to Indian armed force as Pakistan Defence Forum is to Pakistan Armed Force. Although unlike PDF there are more popular Indian think-tanks available in cyber.

You're quite reliable Abir, so I'll take your word for it.

Just for the sake of curiosity, what other think tanks are there, and how popular are they?

 

[Paan Singh]

Back on topic guys. I knew this would end up on Tibet.

*Sigh*

hats off to our chinese bing bing fan

 

[boris]

no offence but i always see many indians and pakistani civilians talk about "nuke pakistan","nuke india","we want war" and i havent seen chinese,south koreans,american people talk about war with china or america,heck i dont see chinese always saying in every topic we want war with taiwan.
if you want war why not join the military and fight the war on terror and actually make a difference,when i read about how hard working and focussed the chinese,japanese,american ,south korean is towards seeing his economy grow always impresses me.
rather than talking about war why not try to make a difference and things better.