Iranian Air Defense Systems

[skyshadow]

that's completely true but that's if the opponent has strategic depth, if you look at the map you will notice that a single battery of Bavar placed in Lebanon can paralyze Israeli air force. long range ADs compress the battle field to an small equivalent.

yes but Israel has long range fighters that will go deep in mediterranean waters and release their long range bombs or cruise missiles out of reach of Bevar and god forbid if they manage to hit a Bavar with them that will be a kiss good bye for Bavar as no one will take the system seriously anymore unless we hit any fighters that takes off in Israel and then the system still have to protect itself from artillery and missiles and ..... so it still lose = lose for us until we make it layered AD.

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

Fascinating

Iranian DCA: new surprise coming?

Not long ago, Iran unveiled its Bavar 373 missile batteries, a long-range air defense system. Some sources close to the Ministry of Defense now claim that the Iranian DCA soon has a new room for short-range defense. These are Oghab (Eagle French) missile batteries, a perfectly domesticated combination of Tor and Pantsir systems.

In terms of air defense, targets at a close distance and at a low altitude are one of the greatest challenges, as various threats, ranging from some missiles to fighter planes, can fly at low altitude, making them more powerful. destruction even more important.


And the fact that the new Iranian device is inspired by the Tor-M1, a low-flying, low-altitude, fully mobile air defense system provides it with the ability to interact effectively with various air targets, including airplanes. fixed wing and unmanned helicopters, helicopters, cruise missiles among others.

Drones able to fly at a low altitude are also part of the targets of the device Oghab (Aigle). For now, this new piece of the Iranian DCA has not been unveiled, but informed sources say its range could reach 15 kilometers. Since this new piece of Iranian Air Defense was born from war experiences in Syria, the Russian experts have their points of view on this. According to Vyacheslav Kartashov, Russian liaison officer for technical-military cooperation, the Iranians "professionally exploited" the Tor-M1 missile systems in their new device.

And this source adds: "The Tor-M1 system is one of the most advanced systems in Russia, especially with regard to the compression of radar and missile systems on a chassis." The Iranian device benefits from these radar capabilities "Oghab" is able to intercept cruise missiles and all low-level air threats, initially a missile system and, in the following phases, a designed to use both artillery weapons and missiles, this system also features some of the features of Tor and Pantsir systems that may be derived from the experience of Syrian battles and the presence of Iranian military advisers in that country. Amir Elhami, deputy commander-in-chief of the Iranian Air Force, told IRIN: Iran's main goal is to equip its naval fleet with this short-range defense system. anti-Iran might have other surprises to live than it thinks it knows about the Iranian naval force.

 

[TruthHurtz]

yes but Israel has long range fighters that will go deep in mediterranean waters and release their long range bombs or cruise missiles out of reach of Bevar and god forbid if they manage to hit a Bavar with them that will be a kiss good bye for Bavar as no one will take the system seriously anymore unless we hit any fighters that takes off in Israel and then the system still have to protect itself from artillery and missiles and ..... so it still lose = lose for us until we make it layered AD.

Iran does have a layered AD system

3rd of Khordad > Khordad 15 > Bavar 373

All that is left is SHORAD which is being developed as Oghab, inspired by TOR-M! and Pantsir system. Likely based on Iran's experience operating Rapier and Ya Zahra systems as well as Syrian experience with the Pantsir.

I don't know where other systems like Talash, Mersad, Kamin-2? and aforementioned Ya Zahra systems stand.

Fascinating

Iranian DCA: new surprise coming?

Not long ago, Iran unveiled its Bavar 373 missile batteries, a long-range air defense system. Some sources close to the Ministry of Defense now claim that the Iranian DCA soon has a new room for short-range defense. These are Oghab (Eagle French) missile batteries, a perfectly domesticated combination of Tor and Pantsir systems.

In terms of air defense, targets at a close distance and at a low altitude are one of the greatest challenges, as various threats, ranging from some missiles to fighter planes, can fly at low altitude, making them more powerful. destruction even more important.


And the fact that the new Iranian device is inspired by the Tor-M1, a low-flying, low-altitude, fully mobile air defense system provides it with the ability to interact effectively with various air targets, including airplanes. fixed wing and unmanned helicopters, helicopters, cruise missiles among others.

Drones able to fly at a low altitude are also part of the targets of the device Oghab (Aigle). For now, this new piece of the Iranian DCA has not been unveiled, but informed sources say its range could reach 15 kilometers. Since this new piece of Iranian Air Defense was born from war experiences in Syria, the Russian experts have their points of view on this. According to Vyacheslav Kartashov, Russian liaison officer for technical-military cooperation, the Iranians "professionally exploited" the Tor-M1 missile systems in their new device.

And this source adds: "The Tor-M1 system is one of the most advanced systems in Russia, especially with regard to the compression of radar and missile systems on a chassis." The Iranian device benefits from these radar capabilities "Oghab" is able to intercept cruise missiles and all low-level air threats, initially a missile system and, in the following phases, a designed to use both artillery weapons and missiles, this system also features some of the features of Tor and Pantsir systems that may be derived from the experience of Syrian battles and the presence of Iranian military advisers in that country. Amir Elhami, deputy commander-in-chief of the Iranian Air Force, told IRIN: Iran's main goal is to equip its naval fleet with this short-range defense system. anti-Iran might have other surprises to live than it thinks it knows about the Iranian naval force.

Source?

 

[WinterNights]

Iran has many impressive air defence systems now. However, what is equally important if not more important is development of electronic warfare and cyberwarfare systems. Iran has made great strides here too. We need to get to a point so in a potential conflict, we can create a large cyber/elerco warfare zones that will make enemy plane useless. For example over Persian gulf etc. We have heard hints of such things being in developments.

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

Iran has many impressive air defence systems now. However, what is equally important if not more important is development of electronic warfare and cyberwarfare systems. Iran has made great strides here too. We need to get to a point so in a potential conflict, we can create a large cyber/elerco warfare zones that will make enemy plane useless. For example over Persian gulf etc. We have heard hints of such things being in developments.

Bassidj trains 1,000 cyber-brigades in Iran

The President of the Bassidj organization (Iranian Mobilization Force or Rapid People's Response Force), Brigadier General Gholamreza Soleymani, reported the formation of 1,000 cyber-brigades across the country.

Asked what programs the Bassidj organization plans to counter the enemy's cyber threats, Brigadier General Soleymani said: "The presence of the revolutionary forces in cyberspace has improved and the Basij has succeeded in successfully orienting motivated, energetic and expert young people in cyberspace and launching 1,000 cyber-brigades in the country. "

The enemies have always been concerned about the well-organized presence of young Iranian revolutionaries in cyberspace, highlighting the importance of strengthening and developing our capabilities in this area.

Iran does have a layered AD system

3rd of Khordad > Khordad 15 > Bavar 373

All that is left is SHORAD which is being developed as Oghab, inspired by TOR-M! and Pantsir system. Likely based on Iran's experience operating Rapier and Ya Zahra systems as well as Syrian experience with the Pantsir.

I don't know where other systems like Talash, Mersad, Kamin-2? and aforementioned Ya Zahra systems stand.



Source?

Some sources close to the Ministry of Defense

 

[Battle of Waterloo]

Iran does have a layered AD system

3rd of Khordad > Khordad 15 > Bavar 373

All that is left is SHORAD which is being developed as Oghab, inspired by TOR-M! and Pantsir system. Likely based on Iran's experience operating Rapier and Ya Zahra systems as well as Syrian experience with the Pantsir.

I don't know where other systems like Talash, Mersad, Kamin-2? and aforementioned Ya Zahra systems stand.

He means create a layered AD system in Syria, not in Iran.

Even in Syria that's virtually impossible because it takes time to set up.

 

[skyshadow]

Iran does have a layered AD system

3rd of Khordad > Khordad 15 > Bavar 373

All that is left is SHORAD which is being developed as Oghab, inspired by TOR-M! and Pantsir system. Likely based on Iran's experience operating Rapier and Ya Zahra systems as well as Syrian experience with the Pantsir.

I don't know where other systems like Talash, Mersad, Kamin-2? and aforementioned Ya Zahra systems stand.



Source?

yes i know we have layered AD, but we have them in Iran, we are talking about Syria or Iraq or Lebanon which we do not have a layered AD.

He means create a layered AD system in Syria, not in Iran.

Even in Syria that's virtually impossible because it takes time to set up.

exactly

 

[TruthHurtz]

He means create a layered AD system in Syria, not in Iran.

Even in Syria that's virtually impossible because it takes time to set up.

You can do that you just have to wait until hostilities cease and Israel loses its cover for attacking Iranian assets in Syria.

 

[TheImmortal]

You can do that you just have to wait until hostilities cease and Israel loses its cover for attacking Iranian assets in Syria.

As long as Israel has US, they will always have cover. Striking Damascus is one thing, but they are now striking in Iraq and Syria/Iraq border.

And deploying any AD system is vulnerable because iran could only transport by air as ground is took risky. And even by air it is easy for intelligence to determine when big cargo planes are coming in. Hell even civilian amateurs can detect it.

 

[hussainb72]

Iran has done much greater and more complex stuff before, "smuggling" a couple air defences wont be that hard for them, they definitely have their own methods for this and they know what they are doing.

 

[TruthHurtz]

As long as Israel has US, they will always have cover. Striking Damascus is one thing, but they are now striking in Iraq and Syria/Iraq border.

And deploying any AD system is vulnerable because iran could only transport by air as ground is took risky. And even by air it is easy for intelligence to determine when big cargo planes are coming in. Hell even civilian amateurs can detect it.

Israel can get away with it due to the fog of war. Syria and Iraq are considered fair game as a result. Which is why no ones really opposed the US deploying thousands of troops to Syria. There's just to many actors/theatres to worry about.

When Syria starts rebuilding their military Iran can transfer SAMs to the Syrian military rather than operating them through proxies, then strategically place them in areas where Iran stores their missiles. Any attack would look like a state-sponsored attack on another nations military.

Instead of operating through IRGC/Hezbollah in Syria Iran should utilise the SAA and their position as a national military.

 

[Arminkh]

https://www.almasdarnews.com/articl...ition-of-irans-new-air-defense-system-report/

Syria allegedly considering acquisition of Iran’s new air defense system: report

 

[zectech]

https://www.almasdarnews.com/articl...ition-of-irans-new-air-defense-system-report/

Syria allegedly considering acquisition of Iran’s new air defense system: report

First send in two dozen or more Mesbah-1, then some Khordads, then the Bavars. Mybe some Pantsir and other ADS. The mobile Pantsir would protect the Bavars in transport.

 

[TheImmortal]

Iran has done much greater and more complex stuff before, "smuggling" a couple air defences wont be that hard for them, they definitely have their own methods for this and they know what they are doing.

Iran already has moved in Air defense systems they have been destroyed shortly after unloading.

It’s not that hard for F-16’s to fly into Mediterranean and unleash their payloads at pre determined GPS targets.

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

Iran already has moved in Air defense systems they have been destroyed shortly after unloading.

It’s not that hard for F-16’s to fly into Mediterranean and unleash their payloads at pre determined GPS targets.

No evidence of this outside of Israeli claims.