Iran Kowsar Jet Surprise (production line)

[WinterNights]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-mocks-irans-indigenous-fighter-jet-as-copy-of-obsolete-f-5/
https://www.janes.com/article/84295/iran-launches-production-of-f-5-derived-kowsar-fighter


https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/irans-new-jet-fighter-or-total-hoax-35622

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thedefensepost.com/2018/08/21/iran-kowsar-fighter-jet-f-5/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...et-is-actually-a-us-plane-from-the-1970s.html

This is 1970 F-5View attachment 522316
An illegal copycatView attachment 522317
Now you can see it with your eyes that It is an illegal copy of F-5
Shame on you
Now

Illegal Coping a jet Shame on you
Now, @skyshadow Buzz off

Yes at least Iran can make such a complicated thing itself, meanwhile some other nations can't even make a simple uav and have to import.

 

[arashkamangir]

[QUOTE = "JohnWick, post: 10970984, membro: 192198"] Novità di kowsar
In realtà una copia illegale di F-5 ........

: Partay:...[/CITAZIONE]

1) the answer you gave yourself.
2) Do you find it easy to do the complete reverse enginereng of a fighter plane without the help of the original builder with the actual projects?

that I remember, projects like this have made them:
1) the Soviets when they copied the B-29, realizing the Tu-4

2) the Chinese, with the Mig-21, when they realized that the projects provided by the Soviets were incomplete, so they started to decode the specimens supplied directly, then continuing with other models co ol ol-15, clokne of the SU-27 , and J-15 clone of the Su-33.

3) the Israelis, when they cloned the Mirage realizing the Kfir, even if in some way they had come into possession of the original construction plans.

all these three nations had and have enormous spending capacities, history in aeronautical constructions, national research and planning groups and eventually helped by foreign friends.

therefore I would leave on one side the face that was posted, and despite all the legitimate criticism of the kowsar project, born from the F-5 that certainly is not a last generation aircraft, we should instead have respect and congratulate the enormous work done by Iranian technicians and engineers, also considering the international situation in which they had to operate.
All this just to evaluate a technically the work, leaving aside for once our sympathies or dislikes towards those who currently managed the country

If Iran wasn't under 40+ years of sanctions, they would have already produced a top of the line 5th generation aircraft with 100% reliance on domestic knowledge and industry. Iran's defence budget is next to nothing and despite all the sanctions they have a healthy industry. Sanctions only slow down the progress as such projects will take lower priorities and et Iran has managed to come this far with 40 years of it.

 

[JohnWick]

[QUOTE = "JohnWick, post: 10970984, membro: 192198"] Novità di kowsar
In realtà una copia illegale di F-5 ........

: Partay:...[/CITAZIONE]

1) the answer you gave yourself.
2) Do you find it easy to do the complete reverse enginereng of a fighter plane without the help of the original builder with the actual projects?

that I remember, projects like this have made them:
1) the Soviets when they copied the B-29, realizing the Tu-4

2) the Chinese, with the Mig-21, when they realized that the projects provided by the Soviets were incomplete, so they started to decode the specimens supplied directly, then continuing with other models co ol ol-15, clokne of the SU-27 , and J-15 clone of the Su-33.

3) the Israelis, when they cloned the Mirage realizing the Kfir, even if in some way they had come into possession of the original construction plans.

all these three nations had and have enormous spending capacities, history in aeronautical constructions, national research and planning groups and eventually helped by foreign friends.

therefore I would leave on one side the face that was posted, and despite all the legitimate criticism of the kowsar project, born from the F-5 that certainly is not a last generation aircraft, we should instead have respect and congratulate the enormous work done by Iranian technicians and engineers, also considering the international situation in which they had to operate.
All this just to evaluate a technically the work, leaving aside for once our sympathies or dislikes towards those who currently managed the country

F-7 is licence build
Mentally Challenged Inbred Listen,, Remember the word
"Licence build" version of mig-21
Chengdu Aircraft cooperation and Guizhou_Aircraft Industry Corporation
Paid Millions of dollers To buy the licence
From Mikoyan company Of Russia

Is. Iran Bought the licence from Northrop and Grumman.?
The answer is "No"
Simalrly
J-11 and J-16 licence build copies

Source
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_J-11
Does Iran paid these dues
Answer = NO

For your info
Kafir Is actually mirage 5
Nwsher is Actually miragelllCj
Acquired from
France

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Kfir


Is Iran bought this illegal Kowsar from
USA
Answer=No
Shame on you for going F-5
Now piss off

Yes at least Iran can make such a complicated thing itself, meanwhile you pakis can't even make a simple uav and have to repaint a Chinese one claiming you made it

We made JF-17
Which has totally diiferent design
""""""No such fighter in the world has similar design like jf-17 thunder"""""""
not coping illegally any US fighter
Shame on you such a theft
Now buzz off

 

[ashool]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-mocks-irans-indigenous-fighter-jet-as-copy-of-obsolete-f-5/
https://www.janes.com/article/84295/iran-launches-production-of-f-5-derived-kowsar-fighter


https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/irans-new-jet-fighter-or-total-hoax-35622

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thedefensepost.com/2018/08/21/iran-kowsar-fighter-jet-f-5/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...et-is-actually-a-us-plane-from-the-1970s.html

This is 1970 F-5View attachment 522316
An illegal copycatView attachment 522317
Now you can see it with your eyes that It is an illegal copy of F-5
Shame on you
Now

Illegal Coping a jet Shame on you
Now, @skyshadow Buzz off

are u burning go to fire rescue maybe maybe they put their pipe in that and the pain maybe gone be happy

 

[WinterNights]

We made JF-17
Which has totally diiferent design
""""""No such fighter in the world has similar design like jf-17 thunder"""""""
not coping illegally any US fighter
Shame on you such a theft
Now buzz off

jF-17 is a Chinese plane

Iran building a jet legally or illegally does not change the fact that it is an impressive technological achievement.

 

[JohnWick]

What sort of crack are you on? So now you jockers are claiming you made the chinese JF-17? Sure, I am certain you built the F-16 as well. You people don't even have the technology for a simple UAV, you have no hope in making a fighter jet.

Iran building a jet legally or illegally does not change the fact that it is an impressive technological achievement. Let me know when you people learn how to make a jet engine in the next century

Mentally challenged inbred watch the video building of JF-17 In Kamara complex Pakistan
You called building a
Clone of F-5. .....1959.....
2.5 gen Aircraft an achievement
When world is going on 5gen than
You are the biggest joke In the World

 

[WinterNights]

Mentally challenged inbred watch the video building of JF-17 In Kamara complex Pakistan
You called building a
Clone of F-5. .....1959.....
2.5 gen Aircraft an achievement
When world is going on 5gen than
You are the biggest joke In the World

That's nothing but a Chinese built complex with Chinese TOT.

 

[JohnWick]

I think you meant to send that pic to your mother.

 

[WinterNights]

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[JohnWick]

That's nothing but a Chinese built complex with Chinese TOT. There's nothing pakistani about this plane.
There is no achievement here kid. Without the Chinese, you jockers would probably not even have a military

You called your iranian a military with
3rd gen f-14 retired 12 years ago by US

WITh ancient
20 migs

 

[WinterNights]

You called your iranian a military with
3rd gen f-14 retired 12 years ago by US

WITh ancient
20 migs

And? It's called sanctions kid. Not everyone relies on Chinese and other nations to sell them or build planes for them.

 

[sahureka2]

sorry was the Kfir, but it was the Nasher, but always a clone without permission

wikipedia
"By 1968, Dassault had finished production of the 50 Mirage 5Js paid for by Israel, but an arms embargo imposed upon Israel by the French government in 1967 prevented deliveries from taking place. The Israelis replied by producing an unlicensed copy of the Mirage 5, the Nesher, with technical specifications for both the airframe and the engine obtained by Israeli spies."

 

[JohnWick]

sorry was the Kfir, but it was the Nasher, but always a clone without permission

wikipedia
"By 1968, Dassault had finished production of the 50 Mirage 5Js paid for by Israel, but an arms embargo imposed upon Israel by the French government in 1967 prevented deliveries from taking place. The Israelis replied by producing an unlicensed copy of the Mirage 5, the Nesher, with technical specifications for both the airframe and the engine obtained by Israeli spies."

By writing ....
You just admitted that Kowser is an illegal copy of 2.5gen F-5
That what I was trying to prove

And? It's called sanctions kid. Not everyone relies on Chinese and other nations to sell them or build planes for them.

Yes I know Sir our 100+ F-16s embargoed by US due to sanctions
Lets forget the bad words.

 

[Kastor]

Ahhh....It never fails, there is an idiot in every thread ready to derail with unnecessary rant and facts.

 

[skyshadow]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-mocks-irans-indigenous-fighter-jet-as-copy-of-obsolete-f-5/
https://www.janes.com/article/84295/iran-launches-production-of-f-5-derived-kowsar-fighter


https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/irans-new-jet-fighter-or-total-hoax-35622

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thedefensepost.com/2018/08/21/iran-kowsar-fighter-jet-f-5/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...et-is-actually-a-us-plane-from-the-1970s.html

This is 1970 F-5View attachment 522316
An illegal copycatView attachment 522317
Now you can see it with your eyes that It is an illegal copy of F-5
Shame on you
Now

Illegal Coping a jet Shame on you
Now, @skyshadow Buzz off

the body is an illegal copy i give you that.