Iran and role in PKK support

[Axa-]

Btw the third video are most probably some people from the balkan countries as far as i can reconize how they pronuonce the language.. Definitely not Turks.

 

[AKINCI]

pissing race goes on. needs shot down

 

[Axa-]

Why are you guys so childish, shut down this and that.. why?

if you dont like it, simply dont participate in such a thread.

 

[atatwolf]

We need to get back on topic.

 

[Surenas]

We need to get back on topic.

How do you think Turkey should solve this? And I mean real solutions.

 

[TurAr]

How do you think Turkey should solve this? And I mean real solutions.

There is no solution for this problem. As long as PKK exist, it will enjoy support from foreign country's that has score to settle with Turkey. And we can not just cut the relations with the countries who are supporting or once supported PKK, considering how many country there are, it would be self-isolation for us.

What we should do is to make those countries sure that there will be consequences of this some day. After all, revenge is a dish best served cold, yeah?

 

[Surenas]

What we should do is to make those countries sure that there will be consequences of this some day. After all, revenge is a dish best served cold, yeah?

Of course, but which consequences you're talking about? Which card you think Turkey should use?

 

[atatwolf]

Of course, but which consequences you're talking about? Which card you think Turkey should use?

Making the way clear for US/Israel strike. We shouldn't miss that chance. but in general, it is very easy, just using same tactics Iran used against us. Supporting terrorism against Iran. Supporting Azeri unconditionally, giving them safeheaven in Turkey. Giving enemies of Iran geographical and logistic support, etc, etc.

Iran has to bleed to learn its lesson. If it survives, it can learn from them, if it is not, bad luck.

 

[Surenas]

Making the way clear for US/Israel strike. It is very easy, just using same tactics Iran used against us. Supporting terrorism against Iran. Giving enemies of Iran geographical and logistic support, etc, etc.

But Israel or the US aren't waiting for Turkey to make the way clear. The reason why the US, or Israel, still haven't attacked Iran is not because Turkey hasn't made the way clear. On the contrary, Turkey doesn't play a huge role at all in this nuclear-conflict.

Second, how you guys want to establish that? Iran has 40 years of asymmetrical warfare experience, and the terroristic organizations in Iran are insignificant. Have you ever heard of terrorist attacks against the Iranian people in Tabriz, Tehran, Mashhad, Isfahan or Shiraz? I don't think Turkey could find or create such organization in Iran.

The best thing you guys in my opinion could do is limit the support to the FSA, try to improve or maintain the relationship with the KRG, and use that as a bargaining chip in the negotiations.

 

[TurAr]

Of course, but which consequences you're talking about? Which card you think Turkey should use?

Likewise supporting a terrorist organization, the most dirty politics in order to hurt that country, the most dishonorable acts, i'm all for it...

This may sound harsh, but IMO, it is a must in order to deter those countries.

The boldest measures are the safest

 

[atatwolf]

But Israel or the US aren't waiting for Turkey to make the way clear. The reason why the US, or Israel, still haven't attacked Iran is not because Turkey hasn't made the way clear. On the contrary, Turkey doesn't play a huge role at all in this nuclear-conflict.

Second, how you guys want to establish that? Iran has 40 years of asymmetrical warfare experience, and the terroristic organizations in Iran are insignificant. Have you ever heard of terrorist attacks against the Iranian people in Tabriz, Tehran, Mashhad, Isfahan or Shiraz? I don't think Turkey could find or create such organization in Iran.

We don't need 40 years experience to do "dirty work". Iran has only been capitalizing on our good will and naivity. But i'm telling you, the mindset in Turkey is changing, Turks have seen enough of their soldiers getting killed, it would only take couple of weeks to convince Turkish public to attack Iran or support Terrorist or seperatist movements against Iran because today Turks got enough of it. Turkish public opinion in turning against Iran. Don't make the illogical mistake that Turkey can't do those things that Iran did against Turkey. Iran is pushing its luck with Turkey too much. Mark my words. I told you this before, when we will support Azeri or Terrorist against Iran, we will do it good so you won't recover. We Turks won't leave the work half finished.

 

[Surenas]

Likewise supporting a terrorist organization, the most dirty politics in order to hurt that country, the most dishonorable acts, i'm all for it...

This may sound harsh, but IMO, it is a must in order to deter those countries.

The boldest measures are the safest

Which terrorist organization you guys want to support? Which terrorist organization can seriously threaten the Iranian regime? No. I'm no fan of the regime, but those smooth mullahs have created the best and professional terrorist organization in the world; Hezbollah. You guys can't win by using the game the Mullahs have mastered. And I don't react anymore to you Atawolf. You seem to be obsessed by a war against Iran, or supporting the Azeri community, which never will side with Turkey. You're not rational, and I can't have a serious discussion with you.

 

[atatwolf]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLd6nVhcCRk&feature=relmfu

He says that Azeri are waiting for the right time to strike and take revenge for South-Azerbaijan. Azeri population is estimated to be 30 million in Iran. In case of war between Iran and US, they will support US he says. So just imagine if Iran regime wages war against Turkey and how Azeri in Iran would react. We all know how Azerbaijani's feel about Turkey.

 

[TurAr]

Which terrorist organization you guys want to support? Which terrorist organization can seriously threaten the Iranian regime? No. I'm no fan of the regime, but those smooth mullahs have created the best and professional terrorist organization in the world; Hezbollah. You guys can't win by using the game the Mullahs have mastered. And I don't react anymore to you Atawolf. You seem to be obsessed by a war against Iran, or supporting the Azeri community, which never will side with Turkey. You're not rational, and I can't have a serious discussion with you.

I was talking general about the countries that supporting PKK and how we should react them. As for Iran, i believe replacing Assad with a pro-Turkey government would be enough punishment. If our government has additional plans, i wouldn't say no of course.

 

[Axa-]

If this is really really proved to be true, then it's a declaration of war by Iran. How else can one explain this simple fact?

I'm serious.