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India’s aircraft carrier strategy ‘a failure’ says Chinese military strategist Liu Kui
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No, J-20 flies in WS-10b engine which is domestic. Same as our destroyer all othe warship. Same as our tanks but this cannot be true for Indians. Maybe you want to claim LCA flies is Kaveri engine?
Sorry, you are wrong. Liaoning is operations. Repeat lying is bad for you.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/chinas-j-20-set-to-receive-indigenous-engine-435075/
please post source...
A car accident cause the delay.
why don't you act normally... an accident happened to the vehicle carrying gearbox... due to that, again it was manufactured...
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Ok, I believe you. Next time they need to take it seriously.
Just image if the driver load the gearbox is an North Krean.
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Sorry, you are wrong. Liaoning is operations. Repeat lying is bad for you.
An experimental carrier that's barely been inducted is already in operations.
Do you remember how long it took before PLAN performed the first nuclear deterrence patrol on an SSBN? Haha.
http://thediplomat.com/2015/12/china-deploys-first-nuclear-deterrence-patrol/
That's after having built the first SSBN all the way in 1987.
I know 6 year olds who are more mature than some of these guys.
Flight global? What do those white man report knows about Chinese military development. If you want to study Chinese, do you study from a whiteman or a Chinese?
https://www.google.com/amp/m.scmp.c...-flies-fighting-forces-says-state-media?amp=1
You are comparing orange and apple. We used to buy drone from Israel and now we surpass israel and build the best military drone with second largest number of drone exported. Same as high speed rail which we cooperate with Europe and Japan and now Chinese exported the best high speed rail with best technology with even European countries buying it.An experimental carrier that's barely been inducted is already in operations.
Do you remember how long it took before PLAN performed the first nuclear deterrence patrol on an SSBN? Haha.
http://thediplomat.com/2015/12/china-deploys-first-nuclear-deterrence-patrol/
That's after having built the first SSBN all the way in 1987.
I know 6 year olds who are more mature than some of these guys.
So by your theory. Since China has started manned mission to space and by your theory, Indian can never surpass Chinese in manned mission no matter how you try catch up?
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Sir it's not just Andaman & Malacca...We also have one more choke point quite close to India between Kerala & lakshwdeep in Laccadive Sea
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None of these are related to the operational aspects of any weapons systems. You still have years to go before you can take your carrier into a battle zone and employ it.
Even if you have the best carrier tech, your men are only human and will require years of experience before they can use their weapon.
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somethings are not in our hands... we moved from importing to manufacturing for carrier...
China may be able to induct fighter engines now... as of now you got technology, good for you... that doesn't mean you can talk nonsense about others...you imported engines until recent... every country has it's own development pace...
Dont give them too much credit .
Their j20 and Pakistans jf17 both use Russian engines. Chinese engines are unreliable and untrusted.
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In 2016, India retained its position as the fastest growing major steel economy in the world. We are all proud of it, and we are confident that India would continue to lead the growth trend in world steel industry. All of us will have to work together for it.
In my view, there are five important thrust areas we need to focus on and to make it easy to remember, we have coined an acronym ‘PRIDE’ that aptly sums up the way forward for the steel industry.
P stands for production & productivity
R for Research & Development
I for Indian-made steel
D for Demand of Steel
E for excellence in quality
The gap between India and Japan was 16 million tonnes in 2015, which has come down to 9 million tonnes in 2016.
India’s share in global steel production was 5.5 % in 2015, which has increased to 5.9 % in 2016. So as far as production of steel is concerned, we are on the right path.
In draft National Steel Policy that was put up in public domain recently, we aim to more than double the capacity to 300 million tonnes. That means an investment to the tune of Rs. 10 lakh crore.
India imports around 6 million tonnes of scrap steel every year and is the second largest importer of scrap after Turkey. By 2025, we will be able to generate 7.5 million tonnes of scrap every year.
In my view, there are five important thrust areas we need to focus on and to make it easy to remember, we have coined an acronym ‘PRIDE’ that aptly sums up the way forward for the steel industry.
P stands for production & productivity
R for Research & Development
I for Indian-made steel
D for Demand of Steel
E for excellence in quality
The gap between India and Japan was 16 million tonnes in 2015, which has come down to 9 million tonnes in 2016.
India’s share in global steel production was 5.5 % in 2015, which has increased to 5.9 % in 2016. So as far as production of steel is concerned, we are on the right path.
In draft National Steel Policy that was put up in public domain recently, we aim to more than double the capacity to 300 million tonnes. That means an investment to the tune of Rs. 10 lakh crore.
India imports around 6 million tonnes of scrap steel every year and is the second largest importer of scrap after Turkey. By 2025, we will be able to generate 7.5 million tonnes of scrap every year.
I am connected to the steel industry and you will be surprised to know that capacity is not the obstacle for increasing production.
Most of the pvt players concentrate on profitable alloys and dont look at quantity.
Also many consumers of steel , incl govt owned go for Chinese steel for their requirement of bulk steel , because of steel dumping .
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Defence scientists, the Indian Navy and the Steel Authority of India have developed a special grade of steel.
The special steel is military-grade, far hardier and lasting and capable of being used in temperatures as low as — 40°C — and of absorbing great ballistic impact
The breakthrough is the outcome of a technology denial regime and forex crunch as well as a spin-off from the ambitious project to make India’s single largest military platform — a 42,000-tonne Indigenous Aircraft Carrier. “Necessity is the mother of invention,” is the proverb quoted repeatedly by officials at the facilities where the steel is being produced and in the navy.
SAIL has so far delivered about 28,000 tonnes of the warship-grade steel for the Indigenous Aircraft Carrier-1
Public sector SAIL has set up exclusive facilities at a Special Plates Plant (SPP) in Rourkela
the SPP also gave a glimpse into production lines for armoured plates for Russian-origin T-72 and T-90 tanks, the indigenous main battle tank Arjun and for mine-protected vehicles used in counter-insurgency operations. The SPP is being expanded from a capacity to produce 2,000 tonnes to make 12,000 tonnes of special steel.)
Defence Metallurgical Research Laboratory (DMRL) worked with technologists to develop and set up a production line of the steel, called DMR249A at the Bhilai plant over the last seven years.
Another variant of the steel, called DMR249B, was made at the Alloy Steel Plant (ASP) in Durgapur. This grade is also being used to repair the Indian Navy’s Russian-origin Kilo-class submarines and is slated for use in another line of submarines. This grade of steel has also been used to build anti-submarine warfare corvette, the INS Kamorta, at Calcutta’s Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers, a defence public sector unit.
The process for the special steel was established in Bhilai after successive “melts” in three plants. While the chemistry of the military-grade steel is a state secret, its peculiar characteristics are said to be a composition of elements chromium, nickel, neobium, vanadium and molybdenum (among others) added to iron ore, coke and coal that go into the making of ordinary steel.
technologists have further toughened the steel to produce another grade called DMR249z25. The “z25” is being used for the machine and engine chambers of the indigenous aircraft carrier.
Indigenous manufacturing of India's largest warship — the 37,500-tonne aircraft carrier INS Vikrant — has ended the nation's decade-old reliability on import for military grade steel, needed for warship building.
The Defence Metallurgical Research Laboratory — a DRDO unit in Hyderabad — undertook the research, which led to the creation of two types of strategic steel.
While high-strength 249A-type steel is being used for IAC and other warships under construction, there is also 249B-type steel, with even higher strength, for the flight deck of the carrier. Sail made several changes in its furnace, rolling mill and heating pistons to produce this high-strength steel and roll it into sheets of thickness varying between 3 and 70 millimetre.
“Every tonne of the domestic steel costs Rs 4 lakh, while the imported steel would cost Rs 8-9 lakh per tonne,” a navy officer associated with the Vikrant project told Deccan Herald.
Since the aircraft carrier needs 26,000 tonnes of steel, the savings may be more than Rs 1,000 crore only on materials. “There are other hidden costs, but more importantly, nobody wants to part ways with such crucial technology,” he said.
The special steel is military-grade, far hardier and lasting and capable of being used in temperatures as low as — 40°C — and of absorbing great ballistic impact
The breakthrough is the outcome of a technology denial regime and forex crunch as well as a spin-off from the ambitious project to make India’s single largest military platform — a 42,000-tonne Indigenous Aircraft Carrier. “Necessity is the mother of invention,” is the proverb quoted repeatedly by officials at the facilities where the steel is being produced and in the navy.
SAIL has so far delivered about 28,000 tonnes of the warship-grade steel for the Indigenous Aircraft Carrier-1
Public sector SAIL has set up exclusive facilities at a Special Plates Plant (SPP) in Rourkela
the SPP also gave a glimpse into production lines for armoured plates for Russian-origin T-72 and T-90 tanks, the indigenous main battle tank Arjun and for mine-protected vehicles used in counter-insurgency operations. The SPP is being expanded from a capacity to produce 2,000 tonnes to make 12,000 tonnes of special steel.)
Defence Metallurgical Research Laboratory (DMRL) worked with technologists to develop and set up a production line of the steel, called DMR249A at the Bhilai plant over the last seven years.
Another variant of the steel, called DMR249B, was made at the Alloy Steel Plant (ASP) in Durgapur. This grade is also being used to repair the Indian Navy’s Russian-origin Kilo-class submarines and is slated for use in another line of submarines. This grade of steel has also been used to build anti-submarine warfare corvette, the INS Kamorta, at Calcutta’s Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers, a defence public sector unit.
The process for the special steel was established in Bhilai after successive “melts” in three plants. While the chemistry of the military-grade steel is a state secret, its peculiar characteristics are said to be a composition of elements chromium, nickel, neobium, vanadium and molybdenum (among others) added to iron ore, coke and coal that go into the making of ordinary steel.
technologists have further toughened the steel to produce another grade called DMR249z25. The “z25” is being used for the machine and engine chambers of the indigenous aircraft carrier.
Indigenous manufacturing of India's largest warship — the 37,500-tonne aircraft carrier INS Vikrant — has ended the nation's decade-old reliability on import for military grade steel, needed for warship building.
The Defence Metallurgical Research Laboratory — a DRDO unit in Hyderabad — undertook the research, which led to the creation of two types of strategic steel.
While high-strength 249A-type steel is being used for IAC and other warships under construction, there is also 249B-type steel, with even higher strength, for the flight deck of the carrier. Sail made several changes in its furnace, rolling mill and heating pistons to produce this high-strength steel and roll it into sheets of thickness varying between 3 and 70 millimetre.
“Every tonne of the domestic steel costs Rs 4 lakh, while the imported steel would cost Rs 8-9 lakh per tonne,” a navy officer associated with the Vikrant project told Deccan Herald.
Since the aircraft carrier needs 26,000 tonnes of steel, the savings may be more than Rs 1,000 crore only on materials. “There are other hidden costs, but more importantly, nobody wants to part ways with such crucial technology,” he said.
No, J-20 flies in WS-10b engine which is domestic. Same as our destroyer all othe warship. Same as our tanks but this cannot be true for Indians. Maybe you want to claim LCA flies is Kaveri engine?
Sorry, you are wrong. Liaoning is operations. Repeat lying is bad for you.
Mark this post fellow Indians.
2019 LCA will fly with Kaveri. 2 more years of posts like this.
you mean 2019?
Yes.
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