Indian Army General praises Musharraf and Accepts Kargil loss

[GreenFalcon]

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=UUwGzqGjN8Q

@Zarvan @Indus Falcon @That Guy @Akheilos

 

[me_itsme]

lol!!

 

[Hurter]

Sach kabhi chupta nai. It had happened & yes, Kargil was won by Pakistan

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

They can cry for all their life but they know if Pakistan was easy they would have attacked long ago...
If they have better tech better aircrafts better tanks and tripple in number everything then why hesitating to attack instead of just talk.. its not their Generals its only their big mouth media which linked to bollywood too...
Face the reality or keep living in dulision.

 

[Asian.Century]

Everyone knows not just Indians lost kargil war, in the shape of many hills still under capture by Pakistan as well as the thousands of Indian soldiers dead, unable to fight, runaway, plus two IAF attack fighters downed by Pakistani foot soldiers.

 

[Goenitz]

man.. can u make a short clips about SSG general haroon, musharraf and others (and thr ops) like one who martyred in parade lane mosque attackkk.. plus a 1998 clip of captain romail stating his GOC was with him at forward bunker...
i bet there is a shrt column on it
"Pak fauj k pagal general"

 

[chhota bheem]

They can cry for all their life but they know if Pakistan was easy they would have attacked long ago...
If they have better tech better aircrafts better tanks and tripple in number everything then why hesitating to attack instead of just talk.. its not their Generals its only their big mouth media which linked to bollywood too...
Face the reality or keep living in dulision.

Last week i saw a man was standing in front of a car and not letting the car go past him and asking the driver to drive over him if the driver had guts.

the people who where watching this ,none thought the driver is coward but thought the man blocking the car a retard.

 

[Viper0011.]

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=UUwGzqGjN8Q

@Zarvan @Indus Falcon @That Guy @Akheilos

This is for media consumption only. When was this posted? I think it may have been for the previous government of India......as Gen. Singh has had various issues with them.

The true results of Kargil are a lot different. If Pakistan would've won, it would've cut Kashmir and the Ladakh highway. Instead, the second the IAF got GPS's from Israel, it destroyed majority of all the forward posts PA was operating out of.

The US brokered the deal, otherwise, this would've become a full scale war. The PAF had rudimentary capability to fight the IAF, due to the lack of upgraded planes, BVR and issues with spares and all.

When you don't achieve your objectives, and lose about 5-10K soldiers, its not a winning situation! There was no need to put so many lives at risk, no matter how you define "Martyrs".

The term "WAR" isn't applicable here also, as the term "WAR" in today's warfare means an integrated battle by a country's entire military setup (PAF, PN and PA). This was just an adventure by Mushy, as he was from Pakistan's special forces.

He thought that the SF alone can cut off Kashmir's main artery highway inside India and the PA can charge ahead. Behind the scenes, its a known fact that the PAF and PN were initially never brought into this, and when they were, some of the most senior officers totally disregard the idea that the PAF or the PN can be used in an offense as their capability was very limited and defensive in nature.

 

[macnurv]

This is for media consumption only. When was this posted? I think it may have been for the previous government of India......as Gen. Singh has had various issues with them.

The true results of Kargil are a lot different. If Pakistan would've won, it would've cut Kashmir and the Ladakh highway. Instead, the second the IAF got GPS's from Israel, it destroyed majority of all the forward posts PA was operating out of.

The US brokered the deal, otherwise, this would've become a full scale war. The PAF had rudimentary capability to fight the IAF, due to the lack of upgraded planes, BVR and issues with spares and all.

When you don't achieve your objectives, and lose about 5-10K soldiers, its not a winning situation! There was no need to put so many lives at risk, no matter how you define "Martyrs".

The term "WAR" isn't applicable here also, as the term "WAR" in today's warfare means an integrated battle between a country's military (PAF, PN and PA). This was just an adventure by Mushy, as he was from Pakistan's special forces.

He thought that the SF alone can cut off Kashmir's main artery highway inside India and the PA can charge ahead. Behind the scenes, its a known fact that the PAF and PN were initially never brought into this, and when they were, some of the most senior officers totally disregard the idea that the PAF or the PN can be used in an offense as their capability was very limited and defensive in nature.

It was a misadventure, and even the political government was unaware of actions taken by Musharaf.

 

[Khan_patriot]

This is for media consumption only. When was this posted? I think it may have been for the previous government of India......as Gen. Singh has had various issues with them.

The true results of Kargil are a lot different. If Pakistan would've won, it would've cut Kashmir and the Ladakh highway. Instead, the second the IAF got GPS's from Israel, it destroyed majority of all the forward posts PA was operating out of.

The US brokered the deal, otherwise, this would've become a full scale war. The PAF had rudimentary capability to fight the IAF, due to the lack of upgraded planes, BVR and issues with spares and all.

When you don't achieve your objectives, and lose about 5-10K soldiers, its not a winning situation! There was no need to put so many lives at risk, no matter how you define "Martyrs".

The term "WAR" isn't applicable here also, as the term "WAR" in today's warfare means an integrated battle by a country's entire military setup (PAF, PN and PA). This was just an adventure by Mushy, as he was from Pakistan's special forces.

He thought that the SF alone can cut off Kashmir's main artery highway inside India and the PA can charge ahead. Behind the scenes, its a known fact that the PAF and PN were initially never brought into this, and when they were, some of the most senior officers totally disregard the idea that the PAF or the PN can be used in an offense as their capability was very limited and defensive in nature.

and ur arm chair gives you the credentials to critique the tactics of a spec ops 3 star general I assume....

 

[GreenFalcon]

This is for media consumption only. When was this posted? I think it may have been for the previous government of India......as Gen. Singh has had various issues with them.

The true results of Kargil are a lot different. If Pakistan would've won, it would've cut Kashmir and the Ladakh highway. Instead, the second the IAF got GPS's from Israel, it destroyed majority of all the forward posts PA was operating out of.

The US brokered the deal, otherwise, this would've become a full scale war. The PAF had rudimentary capability to fight the IAF, due to the lack of upgraded planes, BVR and issues with spares and all.

When you don't achieve your objectives, and lose about 5-10K soldiers, its not a winning situation! There was no need to put so many lives at risk, no matter how you define "Martyrs".

The term "WAR" isn't applicable here also, as the term "WAR" in today's warfare means an integrated battle by a country's entire military setup (PAF, PN and PA). This was just an adventure by Mushy, as he was from Pakistan's special forces.

He thought that the SF alone can cut off Kashmir's main artery highway inside India and the PA can charge ahead. Behind the scenes, its a known fact that the PAF and PN were initially never brought into this, and when they were, some of the most senior officers totally disregard the idea that the PAF or the PN can be used in an offense as their capability was very limited and defensive in nature.

The US brokered the deal due to the crying and whining of the Indian government, Mr. Vajpai to be precise. On our end, Mr. Shareef sold his @s$ which eventually lead to the martial law. So please just listen to this General again who clearly said that they have facts that India was in misery at the time.

 

[Viper0011.]

and ur arm chair gives you the credentials to critique the tactics of a spec ops 3 star general I assume....

If you had read this post carefully and tried to understood it, your response wouldn't be as amateur as it is. When you respond to fact based content, you should have facts in it not personal stuff.

Don't worry about me, I am not your friend, cousin or uncle. Focus on the topic and try to come up with some facts or don't worry about wasting a post.....

 

[Beta-Fighter]

The US brokered the deal due to the crying and whining of the Indian government, Mr. Vajpai to be precise. On our end, Mr. Shareef sold his @s$ which eventually lead to the martial law. So please just listen to this General again who clearly said that they have facts that India was in misery at the time.

lol..... why did your PA allowed him to travel? do your PA need any approval or they listen to govt,

The fact is PA need face saving and only NZ can save them from humiliation. Even if the deal was not reached , PA was thrown out almost 90% of the peaks....remaining would have been be thrown soon , then what PA will tell its people?

deal was to save your face now.

 

[GreenFalcon]

lol..... why did your PA allowed him to travel? do your PA need any approval or they listen to govt,

The fact is PA need face saving and only NZ can save them from humiliation. Even if the deal was not reached , PA was thrown out almost 90% of the peaks....remaining will be thrown soon , then what PA will tell its people?

deal was to save your face now.

"remaining will be thrown soon" still waiting

 

[Beta-Fighter]

"remaining will be thrown soon" still waiting

lol as per Doc, one peak at the NO Man land is occupied by PAk, in next battle when IA allowed to move across LOC , then this will also be taken back......

but why dont you tell how many peaks PA lost by the US intervened?