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India to buy 60-63 Rafales jets off the shelf from France; MMRCA deal off:

Guys a humble request..We started cheering up just by going through the sources where in we have bigger sources out here who claim otherwise.We are just reading on Internet which does not hold any credibility but one of the mod who has close relationship with forces and analysts worldwide claimed something different a month ago. Don't you think we should wait because @Horus heard something else from his credible sources.

France & Pakistan to revive JF-17 Avionics/EW/Missiles deal as Indian MMRCA stalls.

I see what you did there.... :pop::partay:
 
Guys a humble request..We started cheering up just by going through the sources where in we have bigger sources out here who claim otherwise.We are just reading on Internet which does not hold any credibility but one of the mod who has close relationship with forces and analysts worldwide claimed something different a month ago. Don't you think we should wait because @Horus heard something else from his credible sources.

France & Pakistan to revive JF-17 Avionics/EW/Missiles deal as Indian MMRCA stalls.

I can't deal.
 
Meanwhile a French visitor celebrated the deal in his own way and was joined by a tibetan @41..We will liberate you brothers.

 
Finally it has happened.our neighbors question is does the rafale has dsi technology to compete with them.
:D:omghaha:
 
Why are these brits butthurt soo hard?

India orders 36 French-made Rafale fighter jets - PM Modi - Yahoo News UK

That's the gratitude our Country gets for sending to those Indian b******ds foreign aid since 1947 . We must be crazy in Britain . Sending aid to a Country that has a Space Agency and Nuclear Weapons . The French of all people ,getting a huge Trade Deal from a Country that laughs in our face . We should concentrate on China - boycott Indian goods -teach them a Lesson . I sometimes wish we had a strong Leader in this Country , a British Hitler -just for a few years who would teach these ungrateful Nations a Lesson .

How stupid India is still a very poor country. Calcutta could do with that money.

Yes ! Why not ? after all we do give them millions in aid to go and buy French.
Wonderful!! why could they not buy British, especially when most of them are over here claiming benefits as well. We are really stupid, how can we justify paying out millions in aid to India if they can afford to spend buying fighter jets, who are they protecting themselves from ? terrorists??? with fighter planes???

France is responsible for weaponizing a country that cannot feed its poor people.
They will act on impulse if anyone offends their religion.
This can only fuel the war between India & Pakistan.

Thats one country that should have its foreign aid stopped

it's amazing what you can buy with someone else's money !!!

Are they paying for them with British aid?
 
The 36 Rafales now ordered muat be from the 40 they offered as a stop gap and has nothing to do with MCRA
 
India orders 36 Rafale fighter jets from France in historic deal | French News | Expatica France

India's prime minister announced Friday that New Delhi had ordered 36 Rafale fighter jets from France in a multi-billion-euro agreement that has been years in the making.

Standing alongside his counterpart Francois Hollande on a visit to France -- the first leg of his maiden trip to Europe -- Narendra Modi finally relieved the frantic speculation over whether tortuous, years-long negotiations on buying the jets would ever bear fruit.

"I asked the president (Hollande) to supply us with 36 Rafale jet fighter planes, the ready-to-fly models," Modi said at a joint news conference at the Elysee Palace.

While long-blocked exclusive negotiations between the two sides had initially focused on 126 French Rafales, the 36-jet order is manufacturer Dassault's biggest yet abroad -- estimated to be worth nearly four billion euros ($4.2 billion).

Paris sold 24 Rafale jets to Egypt earlier this year.

Negotiations to buy the planes kicked off in 2012 but had been bogged down over cost and New Delhi's insistence on assembling a portion of the high-tech planes in India.

Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian told reporters after Modi's announcement that all 36 jets would be manufactured in France.

Negotiations, meanwhile, continue on finalising the initial 126-jet agreement.


- Pakistan, China threat -

Indian defence analyst Saurabh Joshi said the country's air force urgently needs new jets to update its ageing fleet in the face of antagonistic neighbours Pakistan and China.

As such, India has launched a vast defence modernisation programme worth some $100 billion.

Modi, a right-wing Hindu nationalist, was effectively blacklisted by the European Union for years, accused of encouraging deadly communal riots in 2002 in the western state of Gujarat, which he governed for over a decade.

But after his landslide victory in a general election last year, and with India's economy now growing faster than even China's, France is rolling out the red carpet for the one-time outcast.

"France has always been a reliable supplier for India from jet fighters to submarines," Modi said, pointing to cooperation in a number of sectors such as space, nuclear energy and defence.

Hollande said he was "deeply moved" by the announcements and said they took the partnership between the two countries "into a new gear."

French nuclear giant Areva is still awaiting the go-ahead to install six reactors in India's western state of Maharashtra, five years after a bilateral civil nuclear accord.

Nothing was announced on this particular accord, but India and France signed agreements in a raft of other sectors such as space and transport.

They also discussed cooperation in the fight against extremism.

But Hollande expressed his "indignation" after Pakistani authorities on Thursday freed the alleged mastermind of the 2008 Mumbai attacks on bail. Modi made no comment on the issue.

After a two-day whistlestop tour that will take him from northern to southern France -- with a short breather to take in the Paris sights from a boat ride on the Seine -- Modi will jet off to Germany.

He will end his trip further afield in Canada, home to a large Indian diaspora.

- 'Jobs for the young' -

Modi is seeking to attract investors as he tries to rewrite India's reputation as a tricky place to do business, beset by bureaucracy, corruption and a stringent tax regime.

The government has already relaxed rules for foreign investors, eager to create work for the millions who enter India's job market each year.

"Our main challenge is to create jobs for the young -- 800 million Indians are less than 35 years old," he told Le Figaro daily.

While Modi was quick to meet US President Barack Obama and Asia's top leaders after his election last May, it has taken him nearly a year to travel to Europe.

Still, trade between India and the EU as a whole has grown from 28.6 billion euros ($30.5 billion) in 2003 to 72.7 billion euros in 2013, and both sides are keen for the upswing to continue.
 
if your bravado makes you feel happy, then be it, but that is not how long term strategic decisions are made. IAF will buy what meets its doctrinal needs in the backdrop of perceived threats. not what Pak or China can afford or not. It's never about the money, but somehow you guys can never come out of it.

Ones you commit for the 36, you will not go for any new platform, you may however limit it to 36 and acquire more SU30's, but it will not be anything else. It's neither easy nor tactically sound to go for two new similar platforms simultaneously. Setting up maintenance infrastructure, spares, armament would become a nightmare.

From our PIOV, we would love if you get 3 new platforms. get my point.


@Abingdonboy @nair @NKVD .So my source was correct after all .Look deal is signed
See brother we are not in a losing position..We are the one who is going to pay for it..20-25 billion dollars is not a small amount.Since we have to pay and we have all the options open from American to Russian to European market we could have gone for anything but we know neither China or Pakistan can go for it so we are just taking our time to play with them. If the deal suits us we will go for it and if it does not then we will let it go because Pakistan can never afford it and China will not buy it because if they buy it then world will come to know what J stands in for their JF series.
 
Where is my Bro @The_Sidewinder .... :D


Yup 18 each .

And why I get an impression that additional jets will be made in India ?

Am just guessing . No source to back my claim . Modi ji would have gone for it as stop gab solution . As negotiations for ToT will take more time.

And now we have more time to negotiate . If that's the what in his mind then it's a Master Stroke move :)


Just woke up mere bhai. Took a eatrly night hoping to wake up just in time for Modiji's historic press conferrence. But thanks to my lazy a$$ attitude , woke up just now.

anyways, :partay: :cheers: :dance3:
Congratulations. :)
 
Please, that man has blood on his hands F*CK his "honesty", I don't use expletives lightly but that man is nothing but vermin. Think of the families across India right now who have suffered an unbearable loss all because this "Saint" chose to put his image above serving his nation.

@Abingdonboy

AB, You are fu(king pumped up today dude, either that or you've cracked a few bottles today. Wuzup with that?
 

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