India to buy 50 more Sukhoi Su-30MKIs!!

[Gabbar]

We have already confused that yes both RAW and ISI are playing there respective roles in each others country. There is nothing hidden but blaming one side would be unjust and that is what the Indian media is doing and you will agree to that.Both our countries have fanatics who play foul and let the other party take the blame, My biggest grudge is that when ever something bad happens it is automatically presumed thats its Pakistan and I thats not fare.

Point taken and my self sometime question our some of our media organization but you will also have to admit that if some thing goes wrong in Pakistan, RAW and Indian establishments are blamed first even tough there are no evidences.

 

[Comet]

- India doesn't need Pakistan's permission to discuss matters of national security with its partners. The modified Harpoon can be used against our armed forces and it is a breach of contract, thus the matter is of concern to both India and America.

The modified what???
GoP has invited USA to examine the Harpoons themselves.

Is your government aware of the fact that Pakistan has many ballistic missiles that go further and destroy more than harpoons? What bad can a few harpoons do to India?

There are two possibilities
1) GoI doesn't know about the Pakistani Missile capability and thinks Pakistan only have harpoons and now Pakistan is capable of attacking Indian Land.

2) GoI just wants to finger USA every now and then.


Have we ever fingered USA or UN about the MKI's you are buying and
and so forth?



I go with the 2nd option.

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

Pakistan can take advantage of India playing game with both USA and Russia as one will lose and can sell to Pakistan as reaction to Indian decision.

 

[Ghazy]

Pakistan can take advantage of India playing game with both USA and Russia as one will lose and can sell to Pakistan as reaction to Indian decision.

Yes indeed one will loose and one will win. Looking as if Russians will be on loosing side as far as MRCA as concerned. But India is moving quite smartly, with such deals with Russia like MKIs, Su-35, MiG-29.
So may be, after loosing MRCA, Russians will still not be able to offer MiG-35 to Pakistan due to Indian pressure. This will force us to go for alternate expensive Europeon or infant Chinese technology. WITHOUT ANY DOUBT GREAT GAME BY India.

 

[LCA Tejas]

Yes indeed one will loose and one will win. Looking as if Russians will be on loosing side as far as MRCA as concerned. But India is moving quite smartly, with such deals with Russia like MKIs, Su-35, MiG-29.
So may be, after loosing MRCA, Russians will still not be able to offer MiG-35 to Pakistan due to Indian pressure. This will force us to go for alternate expensive Europeon or infant Chinese technology. WITHOUT ANY DOUBT GREAT GAME BY India.

Indo russian relationship is not like Yours and Chinese..... And India Needs aircrafts other than Sukhois and Migs aswell... Keep your complex aside and Just think about your country, dont get your nose Inside our Internal affairs.... 70% of our Military imports are from Russia, what more they need, it has always been like that.... And It will always be...

 

[LCA Tejas]

Pakistan can take advantage of India playing game with both USA and Russia as one will lose and can sell to Pakistan as reaction to Indian decision.

Well that is the most you can do... But My dear, India Is friend with the arch rivals Russia and USA.... Like USA are friends with Arch Rivals India and Pakistan... But Russian relationship is beyond what you can think, USA is just a trade partner like any other country in this world... Which country would deny if a foreign country like USA wants to Invest in its country....

 

[arihant]

expensive Europeon or infant Chinese technology.

This should end the doubt.

 

[brahmastra]

Russians may get upset if MMRCA do not go in their favour.But it doesn't mean that our 62-63 year relation will end because of just one deal.Russian defence experts say that India will remain their biggest arms buyer in a next decade or two.I personally donot think that if they loose in MMRCA then they will sell Pakistan their arms to teach India a lesson. as we can't go against them,they also won't go against us.
Ghar me chote zagde hote rehte he.bas ek halkisi pappi or tention dur.

 

[LCA Tejas]

Russians may get upset if MMRCA do not go in their favour.But it doesn't mean that our 62-63 year relation will end because of just one deal.Russian defence experts say that India will remain their biggest arms buyer in a next decade or two.I personally donot think that if they loose in MMRCA then they will sell Pakistan their arms to teach India a lesson. as we can't go against them,they also won't go against us.
Ghar me chote zagde hote rehte he.bas ek halkisi pappi or tention dur.

Why does every on think that MRCA is a big deal... russia is the largest exporter of Military weapons to India, Nearly 70% of Military Imports are from Russia... MMRCA is just 5-6% .... Our govt have bigger plans with Russia, We made hem compete with the best, They do understand, We are buying 50 sukhois and 40 helicopters from them anyways... We need them, what ever F-18 we buy, Sukhoi 30Mk1 is the back bone Of IAF... theres no other aircraft which Indian pilots feel comfortable with... Sukhoi rocks

 

[sudhir007]

4-5 Billion $$$ for 50 Su 30MKI aircraft!!!

that is humongous amount for one aircraft, meaning 80-100 million $ for one

Mr Screaming Skull

Can i ask these?
are these aircraft scheduled to be delivered by 2015?
I've heard about negotiations for up gradation of present Su 30MKI b/w India and Russia, have they reached any??
If any what upgrades can we expect(like Radar)??
Why has the cost/aircraft gone up?

any info about reduction in RCS of these, new tech(smart skin)??


No offense to any of Indian brothers in this forum but 80-100 mil $ for Su 30MKI , that is more than Rafael and almost equivalent to Eurofighter fielded for MMRCA competetion!!!

anyways to IAF

Both countries does not clear what is the actual price of the plane but the source says that price goes up to 10% from the last purchase. I think mki come at $50-55 million so now it will come at $55-60 million

 

[AyanRay]

BUT, why lie about it? It is a matter of fact throughout the world that RAW has contributed nothing to the Indian intelligence except lies and criminal acts in Kashmir. If there is proof, provide evidence, otherwise SHUT UP!

So according to you India's RAW has no hands in spreading unrest in Baluchistan and funding terrorist activities in Pakistan as mostly claimed by your government? So u have accepted this fact?
And yes RAW as an intelligence agency has failed many times and its surely not one of the best, We indians do realise that.

 

[AyanRay]

Have we ever fingered USA or UN about the MKI's you are buying and
and so forth?

india buying MKIs has nothing to do with USA. Pakistan can ask Russia to stop sale of millitary equipments to India. Morever, India is using its own funds to buy its millitary eqipments, ofcourse unlike Pakistan who have the tendancy to beg for almost everything.

So may be, after loosing MRCA, Russians will still not be able to offer MiG-35 to Pakistan due to Indian pressure

Even if Russia offers Pakistan Mig-35s, will Pakistan be able to afford them? or ask for a soft loan even from Russia?

 

[praveen]

Yes indeed one will loose and one will win. Looking as if Russians will be on loosing side as far as MRCA as concerned. But India is moving quite smartly, with such deals with Russia like MKIs, Su-35, MiG-29.
So may be, after loosing MRCA, Russians will still not be able to offer MiG-35 to Pakistan due to Indian pressure. This will force us to go for alternate expensive Europeon or infant Chinese technology. WITHOUT ANY DOUBT GREAT GAME BY India.

Russia is going to get 24000MW worth nuclear contracts If the gossip in delhi is correct

 

[Muradk]

This should end the doubt.

If he knew the progress and inside of Chinese technology he would be saying this.

 

[Saint N sinnerr]

Have we ever fingered USA or UN about the MKI's you are buying and
and so forth?

Now this is where I reply and this is where U start moaning....
Well U fingering the US ....everybody knows that U have lost (most of )the credibility in the world forum.... US only consults U when it had already killed Ur people in the vallley `accidently` by the drones...
Hows that for credibility???
Well , remmeber hen 123 N-Deal was passed pakistan went to every bannana republic to get sympathy? And at the end ur PM or pres went to US to get a SIMILAR deal for Pakistan (coz pakistan eik ishq , eik junoon) and US very bluntly and indirectly said NO , NEIN , NON, NE , NIE.