India-Pakistan Talks - 2010

[leon]

If you want to make such claims,I can also claim,that India has been supporting TTP terrorists activities in Pakistan

it seems u dont agree with that
then what u want to say abt the jehad councils open conference held in azad kashmir with muliple references of delhi

 

[ameer219]

khalistan an another terror movement

for ur knowledge khalistan movement is history now

History or not?why Didn't you give them independence,stating to be the largest democracy in the world.

Ohh,and BLA was stated as a terrorist organization by UK in 2006

 

[leon]

History or not?why Didn't you give them independence,stating to be the largest democracy in the world.

Ohh,and BLA was stated as a terrorist organization by UK in 2006

u want evidence
u want to know abt bla moreBalochistan Liberation Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and u say it is described as terrorist by only uk
seems everyone else take this as freedom movement

 

[ameer219]

DUDE,is there any movement,very strong protest movement for an independent Balochistan state,like Kashmir?I don't think you can prove it.Don't give me some Wikipedia article.Show me facts.

 

[leon]

DUDE,is there any movement,very strong protest movement for an independent Balochistan state,like Kashmir?I don't think you can prove it.Don't give me some Wikipedia article.Show me facts.

come on man which movement is going in kashmir can u give me some source on that
and dont like wiki article,so which article u dont consider stupid other than ur pakistani and chinese ones

 

[leon]

here from ur own dawn

The Dawn Blog Blog Archive Taking on the BLA

 

[ameer219]

come on man which movement is going in kashmir can u give me some source on that
and dont like wiki article,so which article u dont consider stupid other than ur pakistani and chinese ones

Dude look around in youtube,just last month there was a protest,and again they asked for freedom.Wow,you are so ignorant

 

[ameer219]

Such blatant claims about anti-state movements enjoying large public support raise serious questions about the state of law and order in the country

From dawnblog


Wow,what a claim

 

[leon]

Dude look around in youtube,just last month there was a protest,and again they asked for freedom.Wow,you are so ignorant

and i can see ur ignorance abt bla,do u even read the article

 

[leon]

Dude look around in youtube,just last month there was a protest,and again they asked for freedom.Wow,you are so ignorant

oh really so this was ur so called big freedom movement

 

[ameer219]

Dude,there is a movement,they proteste,is there any such protests in Balochistan?Can you tell any protestss or see. You are really ignorant.

Yeah,read the article saying BLA is a terrorists organization,and still havent prove the point of a freedom movement. The BLA ONLY CLAIMED there have major support,and I do not see that happening.

 

[leon]

Dude,there is a movement,they proteste,is there any such protests in Balochistan?Can you tell any protestss or see. You are really ignorant.

Yeah,read the article saying BLA is a terrorists organization,and still havent prove the point of a freedom movement. The BLA ONLY CLAIMED there have major support,and I do not see that happening.

dude,if protest by some people is known as freedom struggle then such momements r going around the world

meanwhile u need the proof of bla's struggle-that is stopping the punjabi invasion and opression

 

[ameer219]

meanwhile u need the proof of bla's struggle-that is stopping the punjabi invasion and opression

Man,its either I have some disability to explain to you or is just that you didnt understand me at all.

All i asked is for a recent protest,of freedom struggle in Balochistan recently,in which you can't prove,Well,since you cant prove,then I shall just end it here,cos you are wasting my time.

 

[leon]

Man,its either I have some disability to explain to you or is just that you didnt understand me at all.

All i asked is for a recent protest,of freedom struggle in Balochistan recently,in which you can't prove,Well,since you cant prove,then I shall just end it here,cos you are wasting my time.

hah i expected ur this reaction a lot before
i showed u two article which show their recent movements,but that i think that is indeed ur inability to understand that
u agree or not baloch movent is not just a movement now its a revolution now
u can end here,u dont need to waste time,i am also taking of

meanwhile i enjoyed talking with u,take care

 

[ameer219]

A history of revolutionary situations is often the prerequisite for insurgencies. Recently, in many cases around the world, we have seen how movements scatter into spontaneous revolutions that breed a group of leaders who then proceed to organise and conduct insurgencies. The Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA) is known to be one such movement.

The goals of the militant secessionist organisation include the establishment of an independent state of Balochistan, free of Pakistani rule. The organisation is often described as a relic of the Cold War. During the USSR-USA war in Afghanistan, the Soviets supported, armed, and funded the organisation. Over the years, the organisation has claimed credit for a series of terrorist attacks in various parts of the country. In 2006, it was declared to be a terrorist organisation by the Pakistani and British governments. It has also been included on a list of 25 banned militant organisations, which includes organisations such as Al Qaeda and Lashkar-i-Jhangvi.

Most media coverage of the BLA in Pakistan revolves around the belief that the organisation is associated with and financially dependent on the Indian intelligence agency RAW. Recent increased and widespread activity of the organisation prompted Federal Interior minister Rehman Malik to claim that India was funding the BLA as a tool to destabilise Pakistan. Similar statements have also been made about the Taliban in Fata and the Frontier province, all of which have been dismissed by the Indian authorities.

Irrespective of the funding source for the BLA, the resurfacing of the organisation should be Pakistan’s main concern. The fact that an ideology has sustained an insurgency over the decades reflects official negligence in its worse form. If it weren’t for government negligence – both with regards to the needs and rights of the people of Balochistan as well as the overall security situation – it would not have been possible to recruit people and mobilise a movement, and that too one with motives as extreme as the liberation of the country’s largest province. Members of the BLA have not been recruited under strenuous brainwashing techniques or guerrilla warfare; these are men who claim to have a history as old as the partition of the subcontinent.

In a recent interview with Dawn, Brahmdagh Bugti, the chief of the Baloch Republican Party, made strong statements about the history and motives of the BLA. His descriptions of the BLA and its support are quite frightening. He says, ‘we need nothing from Pakistan. We want them to leave our land and release our people from their torture chambers,’ and claims that separatist groups have overwhelming support in Quetta, Makran, Mastung as well as many other areas in Balochistan. The claims go as far as showing an overwhelming confidence on expanding militancy, despite army deployment.

Such blatant claims about anti-state movements enjoying large public support raise serious questions about the state of law and order in the country. Should we allow private armies to function within the country against the state? Should we hold those who sympathise with these movements responsible for their actions, even while realising that they have been offered no alternatives by the authorities? The brunt of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan is still being dealt with. And while we blame Talibanisation on the Afghan war, there is no one to blame for the worsening situation in Balochistan but ourselves.

The fact is, Pakistan is currently involved in counter-insurgency operations in various parts of the country with increasing foreign pressure and scrutiny at all levels. To promote disorder is a legitimate objective of an insurgent and the absence of laws to stem anti-state activities leaves citizens clamouring for protection. With regard to the Taliban, we have had to learn from the mistakes of the past and take decisive action.

The presence of a private army such as the BLA within Pakistan’s border is a harsh reminder that dire action is needed on other fronts as well. No action will be possible without a national recognition of the fact that organisations such as the BLA cannot flourish without a well-grounded cause. In this case, the cause has been facilitated by the sense of deprivation that is prevalent amongst Balochis.

With recent news of possible drone attacks in Balochistan the situation is bound to worsen. Caged in a no-way-out situation, the authorities need to realise the power of ideological movements and use tactful methods in order to dismantle such movements. If the authorities allow the cause of such insurgencies to remain dynamic, we will meet defeat and no amount of strategic initiatives can compensate for our ideological handicap.

Let’s not wait for the situation to worsen to the extent that it can only be tackled by violence. It would be more productive if actions against organisations such as the BLA is taken promptly and at the grassroots level, with due attention for human rights and ideology. For now, the most basic requirement would be to remove the sense of deprivation amongst the people of Balochistan by taking practical measures – such as halting the development of cantonments, allocating development funding, employment and resources, and ensuring amnesty for former separatists – with utmost sincerity.

Where in this article,was there a protest occuring,or have occured RECENTLY,like in Kashmir just last month??Where?
Man,You can only state claims, and your BLA wikipedia,thats not even a source.Prove a proper one.

I would have walked away,but sorry.making such claims about me is unacceptable