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Human rights violations in held Kashmir not internal Indian matter: OIC

See you did not get my point...We do not need to influence OIC..The point is OIC or any one outside power can not influence our policy about what we do inside out country...The reason is simple, OIC itself is a paperless tiger with respect to human right violation withing their own countries as well as entire middle east is in war zone since last 50 year? What has your OIC done to influence anything in last decade...

So my point is that we see our relationship with other nation in terms of how much we are impacted with trade relation..We do not care..how much emotionally they love us or we do not have any ummah time affinity with any nation as long as our interests are nor addressed.

While your point is taken, an International talk on the "atoot ang" is already a big failure on part of India. I understand Indians are retreating back to a logical hump of for their satisfaction but India is losing ground which it thought it previously had. There was even a time when Modi thought "OIC" would be silent and on Indian side going against Pakistan. Some dreams somewhere have shattered anyway.
 
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AP | SYED SAMMER ABBAS — PUBLISHED 19 MINUTES AGO
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ISLAMABAD: Human rights violations in India-held Kashmir are not an internal matter of the Indian state, said Iyad Amin Madani, secretary-general of the 57-member Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC).

The head of the world's largest bloc of Muslim countries has expressed concern over human rights violations in India-held Kashmir, which has seen weeks of deadly clashes between Muslim protesters and police.

Madani told a joint news conference along with Adviser on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz that the situation in Kashmir was deteriorating and urged the international community to act, saying the situation should be resolved at the political level.

"The international community should raise its voice against the atrocities in India-held Kashmir.

“Unfortunately, very few voices have come out against Indian tyranny,” said Madani.

“The situation in Kashmir is heading towards a referendum. No one should be afraid of a referendum and the solution should be through the United Nations resolutions in accordance with the aspirations of the Kashmiri people. The human rights violations in India-held Kashmir are not internal matter of the Indian state.”

The secretary general said the OIC is eager that the Kashmir issue is resolved and fully supports Pakistan. “The OIC has a dedicated special advisor on Kashmir and a liaison group that will meet at the UN General Assembly session in the United States.”

“Just statements alone are not enough when it comes to occupied Kashmir but the issue cannot be raised at the political level with silence.”

The secretary general said he hopes the next session of the OIC will be held in Pakistan. “Pakistan has hosted many historical sessions of the OIC in the past.”

The Advisor on Foreign Affairs welcomed Madani’s remarks, saying the two had spoken at length on the Kashmir issue.

Aziz stressed that Pakistan and India should resolve the Kashmir issue through dialogue. “We want dialogue with India, but we are waiting on India’s response, after which the situation will become clearer.”

The foreign affairs advisor urged the international community and the UN take notice of the human rights violations in Kashmir.
http://www.dawn.com/news/1278824/


Thank god all the OIC members are having a very Human Rights track record. :P

Look who are talking. LOL :rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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Incorrect. They have been very direct this time telling India that Kashmir is not its internal matter. Ofcourse you are entitled to rubbish them. We in Pakistan care less. It's all about creating a certain environment and perception around India.
Incorrect. They have been very direct this time telling India that Kashmir is not its internal matter. Ofcourse you are entitled to rubbish them. We in Pakistan care less. It's all about creating a certain environment and perception around India.
Incorrect. They have been very direct this time telling India that Kashmir is not its internal matter. Ofcourse you are entitled to rubbish them. We in Pakistan care less. It's all about creating a certain environment and perception around India.
Lol.This actually a softening of stance by OIC.In fact they made much more aggressive statements years back like saying that referendum is that only way and saying that Kashmiri protesrers were innocent
April 11, 2002: The OIC Kashmir Contact Group in a meeting in Geneva affirms that a plebiscite under UN auspices to determine the wishes of the Kashmiri people could be the only viable basis for peaceful settlement of this dispute.
http://www.kmsnews.org/news/2011/12/12/2002.html

August, 2011 A resolution on Kashmir was adopted during the meeting of foreign ministers of the group of Muslim countries, previously known as Organization of the Islamic Conference, in Kazakhstan which ended June 30.
Expressing “concern at the alarming increase in the indiscriminate use of force and gross violations of human rights committed against the innocent Kashmiris”, the resolution urged India to allow the OIC Fact Finding Mission to visit Indian Kashmir.

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal...ects-oic-resolution-on-kashmir_100546807.html
 
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Your link says:



Now read about Jammu revolt by locals which happened 2 months before October 1947 when there were no tribals and Pakistan army officers.



You are not told about Poonch rebellion in schools because:



http://www.tehelka.com/2013/02/nehr...se-it-would-have-strengthened-pakistans-case/

Now you can roll on the floor all you want. :lol:

PS: You can always take help from me about Poonch rebellion since obviously your state didn't teach you about it in schools. ;)

Very well, you guy's were the creators of this technique, but Indian's are the best executors of this method. We successfully replicated the same method in 1971 in East Pakistan and succeeded big time. :)
 
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While your point is taken, an International talk on the "atoot ang" is already a big failure on part of India. I understand Indians are retreating back to a logical hump of for their satisfaction but India is losing ground which it thought it previously had. There was even a time when Modi thought "OIC" would be silent and on Indian side going against Pakistan. Some dreams somewhere have shattered anyway.

OIC always allign itself with Pakistan on Kashmir issue..I do not see something new they have done...
 
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Your link says:



Now read about Jammu revolt by locals which happened 2 months before October 1947 when there were no tribals and Pakistan army officers.



You are not told about Poonch rebellion in schools because:



http://www.tehelka.com/2013/02/nehr...se-it-would-have-strengthened-pakistans-case/

Now you can roll on the floor all you want. :lol:

PS: You can always take help from me about Poonch rebellion since obviously your state didn't teach you about it in schools. ;)
Lol.Poonch rebellion was by Hindko speaking troops.:lol:

BTW you need a lot of help from me in history as ISPR written propaganda will never tell you what happened when weak illiterate tribals raped dozens of Muslim women

http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/gk-magazine/the-tribal-invasion-in-kashmir/141546.html
 
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Lol.Poonch rebellion was by Hindko speaking troops.:lol:

BTW you need a lot of help from me in history as ISPR written propaganda will never tell you what happened when weak illiterate tribals raped dozens of Muslim women

http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/gk-magazine/the-tribal-invasion-in-kashmir/141546.html

Actually that was the main reason behind Pakistan loosing out on the price "Srinagar". Those tribesmen, militia and their regulars. They started the invasion on 22nd October 1947. By the time India moved in troops and reinforced the Maharaja on 27th October, they could have easily overrun his forces since they were ill equipped and severely outnumbered. Yet they couldn't touch the valley because the invaders spend almost 72 hours in and around GB, Baramulla, Uri etc. looting and raping the female inhabitants. If the Pakistan army were sincere enough to their duty back then it would have be a different story all together. LOL :p:
 
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Very well, you guy's were the creators of this technique, but Indian's are the best executors of this method. We successfully replicated the same method in 1971 in East Pakistan and succeeded big time. :)

When nothing to answer run to 1971. Grow the f*ck up kids.
 
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Lol.Poonch rebellion was by Hindko speaking troops.:lol:

BTW you need a lot of help from me in history as ISPR written propaganda will never tell you what happened when weak illiterate tribals raped dozens of Muslim women

http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/gk-magazine/the-tribal-invasion-in-kashmir/141546.html

Lol from tribals to it has became Hindko people. It was the people of Poonch and Jammu who revolted against Dogra ruler months before any tribal came to Kashmir. More about this rebellion since your state didn't tell you about it.

In June of that year a tax revolt began in the Moslem region of Kashmir known as Poonch. This refusal to pay taxes to the Maharajah soon became a full-fledged secessionist movement, which was provided very limited support by the Pakistani military (still under the control of the British) in the form of small arms and ammunition smuggled to the fighters. In the early autumn of 1947, the Maharajah asked the Sikh army in a neighboring province for assistance in quelling the Poonch rebellion. India’s central government also provided what assistance it could.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2002/06/06/the-indo-pakistan-conflagration-it-s-just-a-shot-away/



But you can fool yourself that these were some hindko people. Kashmiris are foreigners to you and your country anyways. :lol:

By the way Greater Kashmir is a redible source for you? Should I share some latest news of IOK from it? ;)
 
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http://intpolicydigest.org/2014/05/26/saudi-arabia-s-escalating-campaign-shia-muslims/

Saudi Arabia’s Escalating Campaign against Shia Muslims
Although Saudi Arabia’s campaign against Shia Muslims has become apparent and undeniable since the Arab Spring movement in 2011, the Kingdom has run a vicious and segregationist policy against Shia Muslims ever since its founding father, King Ibn Saud, assumed the self-proclaimed reign of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. It would be almost impossible to draw an exhaustive list of the many violations which the Shia community have suffered in Saudi Arabia alone. However, one has only to look at Al Saud’s open calls for regional bloodshed against the Shia community to grasp the sheer magnitude and tyrannical nature of the Kingdom’s anti-Shia policy.

No one should forget the spite expressed by the leader of the congregation at the Grand Mosque (Masjid-ul-Haraam) in Mecca, Adel Al Kalbani, which shocked even his interviewer on BBC Arabic Television in May 2009 when he declared that all Shia Muslims were apostate, unbelievers, and as such should be hunted down and killed.

Knowing that Al Kalbani was appointed to his position by the King himself, one can only surmise that the cleric was merely expressing the state’s sentiment and forthcoming policy against all Shia Muslims, whether within or outside the borders of the Kingdom. Al Kalbani suggested that all Saudi Shia should be forced to leave the Kingdom, “as for repatriating the Shia, we can possibly discuss it.” He stressed that no members of the Shia community should be entitled to political representation at the Supreme Council of Ulama, even though they are citizens.

But if the government has sought to persecute and mistreat Saudi Shia within its own borders it has also projected that hatred onto the region in order to promote division among communities in the name of control. Driven by political and territorial greed, the House of Saud has served as ground zero for anti-Shiism. The nefarious force behind the region’s sudden burst of ethnic-based violence and prejudices, disseminated by Saudi Arabia has sown the seeds of intolerance in the entire Middle Eastern region.

Saudi Arabia’s global anti-Shia policy

Saudi Arabian Wahhabis have been keen to persecute and terrorize their Shia community and their crusade against Shia Islam has not stopped at their border; their aims have been to discredit, demonize and criminalize Shia throughout the Middle East region.

On April 2013, Saad Al Durihim, a Saudi cleric, posted a series of comments on Twitter in which he advocated that militias in Iraq demonstrate a more “heavy handed” approach when dealing with Shia Muslims and kill any Shias they might encounter – women, men and children in order to instil fear in their hearts. Such statements essentially gave fanatics a carte blanche right to kill an entire community based on their ethnicity and faith, in complete and utter violation of international law.

Al Durihim’ hateful cries stand directly in violation of article 6 and 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights: Article 6: “Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.” Article 18: “Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion.”

Al Durihim continued to categorize Shia Muslims as lesser human beings, social pariahs and undesirables in order to justify and rationalize his calls for genocide. Shia Right Watch, decided to step into this international void of silence and denounce Saudi oppression against Shia Muslims in order to promote unity on the basis of human dignity.

The organization wrote in a statement, “SRW expresses its strongest disapproval of the freedom of “clerics” who use their power to call for hatred and murder. Wahhabi clerics have continuously called for killing Shia Muslims and their governments have been supporting them. There are many Shia Muslims who have lost their lives because of the motivational talks of clerics.”


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This came in reaction to Saudi cleric Nasser Al Omar’s fatwa against Shia Muslims everywhere. He ruled in his fatwa, “Shia have only two options, they can convert to ‘Islam’ or be killed if they decided to keep their beliefs…First slaughter all their men. Slaughter Shia until there are rivers of their blood. Second inmate their females. If virgin let the BEST ‘Mujahedeen’ enjoy them [sexually]. If not virgin but beautiful reserve for the rest of the “mujahedeen” and the rest of the females can be given to the rest of the men [who are not considered ‘Mujahedeen.’ Last group are Shia children. Capture them and teach them ‘true’ Islam and train them to be soldiers so we can use them in wars.”

Finally Al Omar called for all Shia places of worship, and cultural centres to be burned to the ground.

One has only to look at how Bahrain royals have behaved toward their Shia community to understand what power al Omar and those like him have held over the region, promoting blind hatred and bloodshed.

Tragic religious restrictions

In Mecca, the holiest and most symbolic city of Islam, the Saudi authorities have imposed despicable sanctions and restrictions on Shia Muslims in order to not only humiliate them but force them to give up their religious traditions. During the Hajj – the pilgrimage to Mecca – one of the five pillars of Islam, a moment in every Muslim’s life which carries much symbolism and importance, Shia Muslims have been singled out and left vulnerable by the authorities and fellow pilgrims for no other reason than their determination to abide by Shia Islam principles and traditions.

Back in 2009, a 15-year old Shia pilgrim was shot in the chest by police in Mecca and a Shia cleric was stabbed in the back by an unidentified pilgrim.

The Saudi authorities have also imposed restrictions on Shia Muslim’s visiting of Al Baki cemetery, where many members of the Prophet Mohammed’s family (PBUH) have been buried, including Imam Hassan (AS). Since the cemetery holds so much importance to the Shia community, the Saudi authorities have for no justifiable reason chosen to close the cemetery to all Shia pilgrims, advocating that such visits are contrary to the spirit of Islam. Those who have braved the ban have been beaten mercilessly by Wahhabis militants.

Shia women pilgrims have been regularly arrested while performing Haj for partaking in Quranic class studies, while other Shia men pilgrim were severely reprimanded for selling so-called “Shia memorabilia” in Mecca.

Calling for change

But if the government is intent on destroying the Shia to better assert its hold over the region, others have vowed with equal resolve to combat bigotry, racism and intolerance everywhere. The organization said, “SRW believes such human right violators must be punished for the violence and hatred that they spread in the society. This organization calls on the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to immediately stop Nasser al-Omar and others who call for violence. No human rights violator should feel safe to publicize its violations.”

And indeed, all human beings should be entitled without any reservation or pre-condition to leave in accordance with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. These precepts have been recognized by the world community. It is only when all people have learned to respect and appreciate each other differences and embrace each other for the individuals that they are, that society will truly evolve. Until then, we all share in the guilt of the blood being spilled.

Where is humanity, where is world, where are human rights organisations, where in UN...India is a big shame, pittance if your an Indian now.



Some time pointing 1 finger to others forget that 4 finger point u ...
Surprise to see
When Drone kill people u r silent
when Hundred of People missing from Baloch u r silent
When 1 Million people got homeless because of war and became refuge u r silent ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide

"'The genocide in Bangladesh began on 26 March 1971 with the launch of Operation Searchlight,[5] as West Pakistan began a military crackdown on the Eastern wing of the nation to suppress Bengali calls for self-determination.[6] During the nine-month-longBangladesh war for independence, members of the Pakistani military and supporting Islamist militias from Jamaat e Islami killed an estimated up to 3,000,000[4][7] people and raped between 200,000 and 400,000 Bangladeshi women[7] in a systematic campaign ofgenocidal rape.[8][9] T
 
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Give pakistan some words of sympathy so that the guys can be happy similarly like the child who gets happy after seeing a chocolate. At the same time give modi the highest civilian award and billions worth of trade agreement with UAE even a temple for the indian Hindus in the land of UAE.

No doubt OIC knows Pakistan way better. Now every Pakistani can go back to sleep happily and for India its the business as usual. We dont mind words unless they are investing in India. The thing is Pakistanis take themselves too much seriously which they are not because they have nothing to offer except for army for hire.
 
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When nothing to answer run to 1971. Grow the f*ck up kids.

From the actual topic, if you can go as far as 1947, what is the harm in discussing 1971 ?? Moreover it was the same Pakistani technique that India employed in East Pakistan. And I mean to say, uprising or not there was a clear Pakistani state sponsored interference in Kashmir back then even when you were having a stand still agreement signed with the Maharaja. This is what he wrote in letter to Lord Mountbatten;

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I accordingly approached the Dominions of India and Pakistan to enter into Standstill Agreement with my State. The Pakistan Government accepted this Agreement. The Dominion of India desired further discussions with representatives of my Government. I could not arrange this in view of the developments indicated below. In fact the Pakistan Government are operating Post and Telegraph system inside the State.

Though we have got a Standstill Agreement with the Pakistan Government that Government permitted steady and increasing strangulation of supplies like food, salt and petrol to my State.

Afridis, soldiers in plain clothes, and desperadoes with modern weapons have been allowed to infilter into the State at first in Poonch and then in Sialkot and finally in mass area adjoining Hazara District on the Ramkot side. The result has been that the limited number of troops at the disposal of the State had to be dispersed and thus had to face the enemy at the several points simultaneously, that it has become difficult to stop the wanton destruction of life and property and looting. The Mahora powerhouse which supplies the electric current to the whole of Srinagar has been burnt. The number of women who have been kidnapped and raped makes my heart bleed. The wild forces thus let loose on the State are marching on with the aim of capturing Srinagar, the summer Capital of my Government, as first step to over-running the whole State."

Now you can very well refute it, but history will remain the same. :p:
 
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From the actual topic, if you can go as far as 1947, what is the harm in discussing 1971 ?? Moreover it was the same Pakistani technique that India employed in East Pakistan. And I mean to say, uprising or not there was a clear Pakistani state sponsored interference in Kashmir back then even when you were having a stand still agreement signed with the Maharaja. This is what he wrote in letter to Lord Mountbatten;

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I accordingly approached the Dominions of India and Pakistan to enter into Standstill Agreement with my State. The Pakistan Government accepted this Agreement. The Dominion of India desired further discussions with representatives of my Government. I could not arrange this in view of the developments indicated below. In fact the Pakistan Government are operating Post and Telegraph system inside the State.

Though we have got a Standstill Agreement with the Pakistan Government that Government permitted steady and increasing strangulation of supplies like food, salt and petrol to my State.

Afridis, soldiers in plain clothes, and desperadoes with modern weapons have been allowed to infilter into the State at first in Poonch and then in Sialkot and finally in mass area adjoining Hazara District on the Ramkot side. The result has been that the limited number of troops at the disposal of the State had to be dispersed and thus had to face the enemy at the several points simultaneously, that it has become difficult to stop the wanton destruction of life and property and looting. The Mahora powerhouse which supplies the electric current to the whole of Srinagar has been burnt. The number of women who have been kidnapped and raped makes my heart bleed. The wild forces thus let loose on the State are marching on with the aim of capturing Srinagar, the summer Capital of my Government, as first step to over-running the whole State."

Now you can very well refute it, but history will remain the same. :p:

Bullcrap rant and honestly your rants mean nothing to us. And neither they mean anything to people of IOK who have revolted against you.

History is that people of Kashmir themselves revolted far before any tribal came to Kashmir and you can't change it no matter how much crap you post to change it.
 
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