Hindus the real minorities in their own mother land India.

[Ind4Ever]

Please stick to the topic !!! Even after lots of evidence in India speaking about our ancestors became communal .? Why

 

[jamahir]

Some scholars assert that this IVC represents a local deity which later became proto-Shiva.

sorry but i see no resemblance to shiva who has that conic hair-style and the snakes... those scholars must be sympathetic to the hinduvaadi stream.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

This is history human civilisation .... Timeline of Vedic civilization:

Watch the class lectures at UCLA Indian history by a PhD Indian professor. Anybody can create a webpage of history.

 

[Ind4Ever]

wow... wow...



and i have seen horses among the clouds.

Come man . As I d
Said timeline warry since many have many option on understanding our ancient scripts . The story of Troy is the story of Ramayana from the point of view of Sri Lankans who where sailors traders of the west . They spread about this great wars . Since West never witnessed the war them self it became myth for them . But it's our history because our ancestors were very much part of the war itself.

Did you see my point ?

Watch the class lectures at UCLA Indian history by a PhD Indian professor. Anybody can create a webpage of history.

You won't get it . By doing so you are looking beyond your real history . St the end of the day . If there was no invasion of Muslims you will be a hindu too . Pakistan was hindu too . Which got separated in 1947 . Now many will have different views . But no one can change the history .

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

If there was no invasion of Muslims you will be a hindu too . Pakistan was hindu too . Which got separated in 1947 . Now many will have different views . But no one can change the history .

I guess humans evolved in India !

 

[itachiii]

@Ind4Ever mate u r wasting u r time trying to educate people who are blinded with there pressumptions...

 

[jamahir]

Take your Arabic Jahalat and get out of here

my "arabic jahalat" provided solutions to simplify life which your "ancient civilization" didn't... solutions like abolishment of interest upon loans... see, not adopting that simple solution has contributed greatly to india becoming known as "suicide capital of the world"... so who is the jaahil here??

 

[SQ8]

Vedic Religion? Veda did not have a religion. It's as much a religion as is Das Kapital. Hinduism is Evolutionary Paganism. Very much of this soil.

Then I guess the various archaeologists and historians from places such as Cambridge who defined it as such,who were idiots to call a period of time as "vedic" and refer it to as the collective system of beliefs of the Indo-Aryans whose origins were not from the Indian continent as such really should get together with someone MENSA worthy as you to talk it out.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

really

I know I am a minority in my nation. Can't say about the rest of the Hindus. Without the minority rights that is. At least in some admissions we ('Kashmiri migrants') get a quota. Though we never migrated, but just to prove the point.

Then I guess the various archaeologists and historians from places such as Cambridge who defined it as such,who were idiots to call a period of time as "vedic" and refer it to as the collective system of beliefs of the Indo-Aryans whose origins were not from the Indian continent as such really should get together with someone MENSA worthy as you to talk it out.

Yes, they were idiots if they call the Vedic period as a time when people followed a Vedic 'religion'.

 

[Ind4Ever]

I guess humans evolved in India !

It's obvious !!! Because our world was not like as it is today . But was covered with ice . Only few parts of modern India and large mass Sunken Continent KUMARI Continent had tropical climate .
This must be the place of first human civilisation . After migration started ! Etc.

 

[jamahir]

Pakistan was hindu too .

the pyramids of egypt and sudan and in south america are hindu too... babylona is babbalipura, ramallah town ( palestine ) is actually "ram lalla", rome is rama, granada city ( spain ) is "griha nath" and so on.

 

[SQ8]

No evidence of the vedic religion having originated anywhere else. The Rg veda knows of no areas outside the sub continent & Afghanistan.

For once Ill agree with wikipedia as it really seems to capture the ideas of many in this thread and their vehement defence of their ideas.

The debate about the origin of Indo-Aryan peoples is controversial, resulting in political agitation and inflamed sentiments.[8] Some have rejected the theory of Indo-Aryan origins outside of India, maintaining that the Indo-Aryan people and languages originated in India.

Inflamed sentiments means most arent thinking straight when they post.

 

[jamahir]

I guess humans evolved in India !

that is my understanding too... forget africa... humanity is "out of india".

 

[indianBong]

Hindus the real minorities in their own mother land India.

The way Hindu bashing going on India is really sad and very dangerous too. Some western interest always kept Hindus suppressed so their religious beliefs are not underestimated by their own people . You may ask why ? Because their unity will exist until their people follow Christianity without any doubts . Same thing can be said to Arabs countries as well . When Hindus raise it's not an individual's coming up but his civilisation legacy too. Which may well beyond any comparison to the western civilisation. Dark side of their So called Humanity , Secularism, decayed society will be exposed .

Few days before western media kept hopping on Rapes in India and so called violence against minorities . But in reality it's a different story altogether .

After their documentary film . India's Daughter ! There has been many reports by UK and american societies which started raising questions over shameful rape records with their own country . With very little population they(UK) ranked just behind India and US tops them all with no 1 in rape and sexual harassment . Many people give excuse like there are many cases goes without the notice of police . That's absurd . The fact is Indian people are culturally civilised than these European and the West. So any crime against women will be unacceptable in any form in Indian/Hindu culture.The only civilisation / religion which pray Women as goddess. All other religions suppressed these women. Name me one religion which pray women as god. So Where as in UK and US these sexual violence seen with biased lens to be frank .

If you ask people of US/UK they will say the government organisations literally blames rape victims for filing fake cases . Many suicides of many young girls accused of Lying By Their Court are shameful . Many harassment takes place in western countries than any where due to there pub and clubbing culture .

They may try to stop the growing awareness of our pride of Hinduism . Because in India many have started to question the validity of western scholars on their claims on many theories and so called innovations/inventions.

These were the countries which killed a scientist who told their people and king that earth is spherical in shape not flat . Just before few centuries .

Same people shameless claims to have invented many mathematical theories.

Shameless western scientist who studied Indian text later modified with western systems and claimed it as their own invention.

Now this is very dangerous for their civilisation itself. Their unity is intact until their lies on religions belived and followed by their masses.For which their religion was created after 400 years of jesus christ. They will do anything to stop Hindus from raising .


Unfortunately , their propaganda is now taken forward by Congress party in the name of Secularism . They have successfully created words like Saffronisation , right wing terrorism , Internet Hindus, many more and now one of the Secular party in India calling hindus involved in rapes. They are now creating panic among the minorities which was crimes committed by some criminals . How shameful is this ?

These morons don't know that Jew's came to India well before 2000 years ago and Arabs been trading with India even before Islam was created . Church being built in India in 400 AD itself by christians who came in search of Jews to convert them or to Kill them . But hindus stood in support for jews , parsis and many other communities came to India for shelter.

And after Islam was created these Arab traders after 720AD came into India with their new religions along with usual trade . And many mosque have been built in Kerala at that time with Hindu Vedic mix in their structures . Which is still in Kerala for everyone to see .

Point is . India was 100 % Hindu nation . Yet these hindus have tolerance to allow others country men to preach their religion . How many countries / people allowed it ? At that time no world organisation or human rights or UN was there . These so called secular won't succeed in their mission . No country will allow the (Hindu bashing) hurting the feelings of majority for the sake of minorities like happening in India.

Bloody congress party now changed this nations identity this nation's pride Hinduism into a Sin for calling India a hindu nation. Why not to tell Hindustan a Hindu Nation ? Anything wrong ? If this is our history why not recognise it ?
One can change his Name or identity but how can they change their parents ? Their father and mother ? This is really hurting hindu feeling . Making him to feel like insecured and like a minority. Very dangerous in the country where people in the past raised to any oppression , invasions for 1000 years . Still here we are 85% Hindus prospering in India.
Why are we doing this to our mother land ? You want to change this Mother Land's history ? This is very serious issue needed to be dealt with . With iron fist . Before hindus loss their patients. If you are following any other religions now , it's Ok . It's your right and Ur wish . But trying to hide our own history is really shameful . All are Indians in India. If you are roman Christian it doesn't mean you came from Rome. If you are a Muslim it doesn't mean you came from Arab . We are Indians and this Land belongs to us . Our history is glorious than any others till now . We must upheld it with pride .

I really consider these people , politicians ,some foreign funded ngos are playing with fire. And they want that to create trouble for our society . Its very dangerous . Hope there won't be a situation where Majority demand to send muslims to Pakistan or Bangladesh . As these countries where given for this religion purpose .

Solution : ?

It's there . Our minorities must accept a simple fact that they were hindus before the muslims and christians invaded Hindustan.Our Hindu civilisation is much older than any others lots of scientific evidence proves it. And so recognise our national identity and our oldest civilisation's culture . And demands like muslims want reservations , christians can convert hindus but hindus should re convert or convert other religions must be stopped . 1 law must be followed for very one . When a muslims can marry 5 women and have 20 kids why should Hindus must follow 1 women and 1 child policy ? When temples are been destroyed in large numbers why do they these group dont voice to stop them ? Why media don't even show them in their news ? When a nun get raped it's goes bizarre if hindus get rapped very where why there is partially ?


This has to be stopped . Agitation won't get violent in India . If it has to happen in the future it will be for suppressing hindus in the name of Secularism. Which is misused today in India. . It will go the extreme like calling for 100% Ghar Wapasi if Egypt like agitation takes place . Hope it won't happen . Hope These Paid Media , Secular Parties and minorities will respect majority sentiments too . We are humans with heart and human rights too . So call for equality and diversity with full respect for all .

i guess hindus are more united outside india,....

 

[Ind4Ever]

wow... wow...



and i have seen horses among the clouds.

And dude there was no train in those days so you take a train from tamil Nadu Nepal . These land were filled with dense forest and many area was not under the control of human inhabitants. So sea route were used to explore the wast land mass . New Land mass appears when ice melts . Like US Russians European never had native civilisation . Because they all were under thick ice formed during ice age . . .