Hindus struggle to protect temples in Pakistan

[SarthakGanguly]

when you justify massacre of Muslims so easily and with pleasure what kind of reply you expect?

and BTW am not that wrong . Such incidents of fir at train leading to deaths specially of yatrees is NOT new.

They need to learn

Nobody is justifying at all.
Only problem was the yatris doused the whole carriage with petrol for cooking Bad cooks ... bad

 

[drunken-monke]

if jahil devotees do not know how to light a stove in a running rail that was NOT fault of Muslims

Conspiracy story by UPA and Banerjee commission... You are not fool to believe that...

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Conspiracy story by UPA and Banerjee commission... You are not fool to believe that...

A very old story. The next commission appointed by the SC overruled that. The perpetrators were even punished. Including Congi hotshots.

 

[drunken-monke]

A very old story. The next commission appointed by the SC overruled that. The perpetrators were even punished. Including Congi hotshots.

Tell this to Sister @Spring Onion...

 

[Contrarian]

Frankly speaking , 'religious' Hindus and Muslims can not live in harmony together by respecting each other faiths. Islam and Hinduism are completely two opposite religions. Worshiping many gods through idols is fundamental to Hindus but this is a direct contrast to Muslim faith. I think if any religion which has a place in Islamic society is Christianity since in Quran only Christians are praised from other faiths.

Foolish man, it is not fundamental to Hindus.
Hindus can be polytheistic or monotheistic. They can be idol worshiping or not worshiping. And they can both be equally religious and equally Hindu.

The only central tenet of Hinduism is that - All rivers reach the same ocean. Each man is free to find and choose his/her own way to reach God.

if jahil devotees do not know how to light a stove in a running rail that was NOT fault of Muslims

This has been disproved in Court and investigation agencies.
It was lit up by miscreants who were Muslim.

 

[jarves]

if jahil devotees do not know how to light a stove in a running rail that was NOT fault of Muslims

LOL,so you want to say that Railway compartment which is made of high quality steel caught fire from a stove

 

[IamBengali]

Foolish man, it is not fundamental to Hindus.
Hindus can be polytheistic or monotheistic. They can be idol worshiping or not worshiping. And they can both be equally religious and equally Hindu.

The only central tenet of Hinduism is that - All rivers reach the same ocean. Each man is free to find and choose his/her own way to reach God.


This has been disproved in Court and investigation agencies.
It was lit up by miscreants who were Muslim.

I have never seen a single Hindu not worshiping idols. Idol worship is indeed very fundamental to Hindu faith.

In Islam idol worshipers are called 'Mushriks'. It is the most hatred group for Muslims. Only Christians, Jews and Sabians (now extinct) are called Ahle Kitab in Quran. There is very controversial verse in Quran ordering Muslims to kill Mushrikuns where ever they are found. Its called 'Sword Verse' revealed during a war fought between Muslim group and Mushrik group. Due to such verse idol worshipers and Muslims can't stay in harmony if they are very religious. Conflicts and clash will definitely happen between these two groups. If any Hindu is not idol worshiper and worship only one formless God then he may be called closer to Muslims.

 

[Contrarian]

I have never seen a single Hindu not worshiping idols. Idol worship is indeed very fundamental to Hindu faith.

In Islam idol worshipers are called 'Mushriks'. It is the most hatred group for Muslims. Only Christians, Jews and Sabians (now extinct) are called Ahle Kitab in Quran. There is very controversial verse in Quran ordering Muslims to kill Mushrikuns where ever they are found. Its called 'Sword Verse' revealed during a war fought between Muslim group and Mushrik group. Due to such verse idol worshipers and Muslims can't stay in harmony if they are very religious. Conflicts and clash will definitely happen between these two groups. If any Hindu is not idol worshiper and worship only one formless God then he may be called closer to Muslims.

Are you one of those idiots who don't have the capacity to process information, only parrot it?

Else, I have clearly told you in my last post what Hinduism is. I don't care what your prophet told you or didn't tell you or whether Hindus are close/closer or Muslims or not.

Hinduism or Sanatan Dharma is what it is and I have told you a major belief of this religion. All rivers lead to the same Ocean. Each is free to reach God in his own way. Make of it what you will depending on how wise you are.

 

[jarves]

They need to learn

Yeah they need to learn to defend themselves from some sick people in the society.

 

[IamBengali]

A Hindu Primerby

Shukavak N. Dasa

Copyright © 2007 Sanskrit Religions Institute
All rights reserved.

Do Hindus Worship Idols?

Sacred Images

The answer to this question is most certainly yes! Hindus do worship idols, but so do Christians, Jews and even Muslims. In fact, it is impossible to conceive of God without some form of idol, for idol worship is the way of religion. Let me explain.

In Hinduism there are many words to describe the nature of God, and we will refer to them as the need arises, but in this regard, the most relevant word is acintya, which means "inconceivable," "beyond thought." The true nature of God is, therefore, beyond the ability of human beings to understand, yet we have a need to reach out in our mind and try to conceive of God, so we create an image of God in our minds. This mental image of God is an idol. Most people, including Hindus, think of an idol solely as a graven or carved image and, while this is true, an idol is a carved image, it is also a form that begins in the mind. It is a mental form. Consequently, mental forms are also idols.
The Image of Father

God as Father


With this in mind, perhaps the most common mental images that human beings use to conceive of God is as a Father, a King or a Mother. The idea of a father, a king or a mother is, therefore, a mental idol, a tool we use, to conceive of what is actually inconceivable, beyond thought. Convert that mental idol into a wooden or stone image and you have created a graven idol. From a Hindu perspective there is little difference between a mental idol and physical idol. One is just an extension of the other. And so, if you conceive of God as the supreme Father, or as the King of kings, or the divine Mother, you have created an idol, a material image with which to approach God. Human beings have no choice other than to approach God through these idols, even though all idols are simply crude and limited approximations of what God is in reality. Of all religions Hinduism seems the most adept at converting mental idols into physical form as graven idols, or what we prefer to call, sacred images. In fact, we generally teach our students not to use the word idol at all because it gives the wrong impression amongst many non Hindus. Indeed, Hindu temples are full of such sacred images of God and Hindus have special ways to install and interact with these images in their temples and homes, and in most cases these images are viewed, not as material images, but as spiritual forms. This is the result of seeing through faith.
Which Image?

Baby Krishna: God as a Child


Another Sanskrit word that describes the nature of God and which comes into play in regard to idols is sarva-gata, which means literally "gone everywhere." In other words, sarva-gata refers to the all pervading nature of God. God is in all things and in all places. In fact, you are sitting or standing on God right now, which means, technically speaking, you could worship the floor or chair or anything as an idol of God. This, however, is generally not done. Instead, Hindus worship specific images that are described in scripture (shastra). The technical name for these sacred images of God is arcya-vigraha. Arcya means 'worship-able' and vigraha means "form" and so arcya-vigraha is the "form to be worshipped." We can also say that God agrees to appear in these special forms that can be understood by human beings in order to allow Himself to be worshipped. A more common term that is used instead of arcya-vigraha is murti. It simply means divine form. These sacred images that you find in Hindu temples and homes are installed according to specific rituals also described in scripture (See Prana Pratishtha). How Hindus perceive of these images varies according to adhikara, but one simple way is to see these sacred images as "mail boxes." Devotees come to a temple bringing fruits and flowers and all their prayers and hopes and stand before the sacred image and "post" their offerings and prayers through the sacred image. The worshippers are not bowing down to stone, they are not worshipping a statue; they are approaching these sacred images as the means to get to the God behind the image. In a similar way, a Christian may kneell before a crucifix of Jesus and pray. The worshipper is not worshipping the wooden cross, but instead he is approaching his object of devotion, Jesus, through the manifestation of the crucifix. This is a form of idol worship from a Hindu perspective. Even a Muslim, who will never worship any form, cannot help but have some abstract mental image or concept of God. This too is an idol of God, albeit an abstract mental idol. It can not be helped. This is what I mean when I say there is no way to conceive of and worship God except through some form of idol worship.
Language as an Idol

Closely related to these ideas of idol worship is the use of human language to express our understanding of God. The very words acintya or sarva-gata, are human attempts to touch God using language. But even language is a product of this world and therefore is limited to the boundaries of physical reality. Language, even though it is a crude instrument used to express what is beyond thought is still the best instrument we have. So when we speak about God as our Father, our King, our Lord or our Mother, these words are also idols of God. But, again, how can we speak of the divine without these idols of language? Idols of the divine cannot be avoided.
Do Hindus Worship Idols?

 

[ranjeet]

How many times this particular topic would pop up in this forum?

 

[AUz]

Probably for the first time I had to thank you for posting a very sensible post.

When I'm not trolling indians, my posts are always sensible. You just need to learn when I'm in serious mood and when I'm just playing with people to poke them in the eye

 

[Tshering22]

These lunatics deserve it. After all, demolishing temples is a secoolar act.

All hail secularism.

 

[dray]

When I'm not trolling indians, my posts are always sensible. You just need to learn when I'm in serious mood and when I'm just playing with people to poke them in the eye

Then you should always remain in serious mood, you are a better person in serious mood.
Same goes for @Umair Nawaz , he is actually a sensible member when he is not trolling, I have seen a few of his 'serious' posts, unfortunately he is almost always on troll mode.

 

[Dem!god]

It should NOT be . But the problem is Muslims in India are paying for Central Asians' deeds . Same circle is being repeated in other regions.

what do you mean by that.....
muslims in india are in far better condition then in other south asian nation......
it's paskistani muslims who is paying the price of its state misdeeds.......

if jahil devotees do not know how to light a stove in a running rail that was NOT fault of Muslims

what does it mean again.......
are you calling a faith of people jahil......
not a good language for a stature of lady who works in media..........