HAL Hands Over Tejas Jets To IAF

[Dazzler]

I have seen your rhetoric, which barely makes any sense. The bottom line is your industrial o/p is close to zero, and that is real reason for all the heartburn that you consistently display...

Lol, and yet military projects on this side get inducted faster. What an irony.

 

[NKVD]

Lol, and yet military projects on this side get inducted faster. What an irony.

Yes Paint-Jobs are Always Easy Mate

 

[Dazzler]

Lol.. This is not discussion .. It just a arrogance. Its laughable if somebody says jf17 is better than LCA even if can't fire bvr missiles and don't have a discent avionics or even a jammer.. And now plz don't rant about jf 17 blk 2.

Show men one post where I said that. However, considering the fact LCA still has some yards to travel to wear IAF emblem whereas your most hated plane in the world has already done so for its air force, and is heading for 2nd block, its ignorance on your part.

And, Sd-10 has been in operation with block 1 fighters since late 2011 as the radar software glitch was rectified while ago. You just showed your ignorance.

Yes Paint-Jobs are Always Easy Mate

And you live in the lala land as usual. GIDS conglomerates alone worth $2 billion and that's just one of the 70 such defense related R&D ventures. Shows how clueless you guys are really. And yet you brag about knowing Pakistani military industries

So, That's Mean Even Our Failed Indigenous Projects are Superior To your Best Thatz You are Trying Convey, Anyway Thanks Pal

Nope, its the opposite. Your so called successful projects often end up failures when pitted against contemporary systems. Solely due to sheer arrogance that we don't need anyone and can do what want attitude.

 

[NKVD]

And you live in the lala land as usual. GIDS conglomerates alone worth $2 billion and that's just one of the 70 such defense related R&D ventures. Shows how clueless you guys are really. And yet you brag about knowing Pakistani military industries

2 billion $ Thought you Bragging It Like its 200 billion $ We spend This Much amount Alone For Buying MICA Bvr for M2K Upgrade what waste

 

[kaku1]

And you live in the lala land as usual. GIDS conglomerates alone worth $2 billion and that's just one of the 70 such defense related R&D ventures. Shows how clueless you guys are really. And yet you brag about knowing Pakistani military industries

Worth?

Seems like you dont know revenue of HAL, yes its $2bn alone. So, dont ask total assets.

Financial Highlights

 

[NKVD]

Nope, its the opposite. Your so called successful projects often end up failures when pitted against contemporary systems. Solely due to sheer arrogance that we don't need anyone and can do what want attitude.

Well We have Money To waste. That we Do When One have To create Industry from Scrach.Better than Doing Paint job on Other Achievements That Under Rated

 

[Dazzler]

2 billion $ Thought you Bragging It Like its 200 billion $ We spend This Much amount Alone For Buying MICA Bvr for M2K Upgrade what waste

You see, that's the difference. Spending in what is needed with related requirements and spending on filling pockets even before the tender is opened, blacklisting companiesfor corruption but paying 3x for obsolete ammo, revising GSQR for indigenous projects to fail the efforts and spending $$$ on tech that is way out of your grasp is what you guys are known for.

 

[N3oN]

Show men one post where I said that. However, considering the fact LCA still has some yards to travel to wear IAF emblem whereas your most hated plane in the world has already done so for its air force, and is heading for 2nd block, its ignorance on your part.

And, Sd-10 has been in operation with block 1 fighters since late 2011 as the radar software glitch was rectified while ago. You just showed your ignorance.

This is the article from Janes and it clearly show that blk one don't have bvr capability..
And yes the milestones which are given are not achieved as written.. As you r senior member do provide a good source whatever you claim.


Production of the first two of 50 Block 2 JF-17s on order by the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) is now well under way at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, Kamra, with the first expected to fly by the end of the year.

The Block 2 JF-17 has several capability increases over the Block 1s, but the main boost to the PAF as well as to export potential is the installation of an air-to-air refuelling system. One aircraft has been fitted with a refuelling probe, which protrudes from the right side of the fuselage just behind the cockpit, sitting forward of the pilot's position. It is being used for flight trials.

However, this modification will not appear in Block 2 aircraft until midway through the production at the Aircraft Manufacturing Factory (AMF), probably in early 2016, PAF officials said. Coupled with software enhancements, other new features include an upgrade to the avionics system that works around China's Nanjing KLJ-7 radar.

A detail of the refuelling probe on one of the first two Block 2 JF-17s. (Alan Warnes)


As a result, the Block 2s can add the Chinese-designed C-802 anti-ship missile and SD-10A beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile to the Block 1s' existing armoury, which includes Mk 82/84 dumb bombs and the PL-5-EII short-range air-to-air missile. All the Block 1s will eventually be upgraded with the Block 2 improvements.

With an urgent need to export JF-17s, a two-seater will be built in the Block 2 time frame. The PAF had always said that a two-seater is not urgent, but Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt now admits that a dual seater is a necessity. "We realise that it is required, because the air forces interested in buying JF-17 want one," he said.

PAF pilots currently converting to JF-17 are accumulating around 25 hours on a JF-17 simulator operational at Kamra, where one of the two operational squadrons is based. Nearly all the Block 1s have now been delivered to the PAF, which has a current requirement for 150 to replace the ageing F-7P and Mirage III/Vs.

First Block 2 JF-17s under construction in Pakistan - IHS Jane's 360

 

[Dazzler]

Well We have Money To waste. That we Do When One have To create Industry from Scrach.Better than Doing Paint job on Other Achievements That Under Rated

I can sense your pain, its tough for you guys really.

 

[NKVD]

You see, that's the difference. Spending in what is needed with related requirements and spending on filling pockets even before the tender is opened, blacklisting companiesfor corruption but paying 3x for obsolete ammo, revising GSQR for indigenous projects to fail the efforts and spending $$$ on tech that is way out of your grasp is what you guys are known for.

Yes Still Better than Be a Paint-job Guy?

 

[my2cents]

Congrats to India to finally have this plane. It's an example of Indian tortoise crossing the finish line.

More like a snail to me...

 

[NKVD]

I can sense your pain, its tough for you guys really.

Only one Pain in Here is you. I Can Sense

 

[Dazzler]

This is the article from Janes and it clearly show that blk one don't have bvr capability..
And yes the milestones which are given are not achieved as written.. As you r senior member do provide a good source whatever you claim.


Production of the first two of 50 Block 2 JF-17s on order by the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) is now well under way at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, Kamra, with the first expected to fly by the end of the year.

The Block 2 JF-17 has several capability increases over the Block 1s, but the main boost to the PAF as well as to export potential is the installation of an air-to-air refuelling system. One aircraft has been fitted with a refuelling probe, which protrudes from the right side of the fuselage just behind the cockpit, sitting forward of the pilot's position. It is being used for flight trials.

However, this modification will not appear in Block 2 aircraft until midway through the production at the Aircraft Manufacturing Factory (AMF), probably in early 2016, PAF officials said. Coupled with software enhancements, other new features include an upgrade to the avionics system that works around China's Nanjing KLJ-7 radar.

A detail of the refuelling probe on one of the first two Block 2 JF-17s. (Alan Warnes)


As a result, the Block 2s can add the Chinese-designed C-802 anti-ship missile and SD-10A beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile to the Block 1s' existing armoury, which includes Mk 82/84 dumb bombs and the PL-5-EII short-range air-to-air missile. All the Block 1s will eventually be upgraded with the Block 2 improvements.

With an urgent need to export JF-17s, a two-seater will be built in the Block 2 time frame. The PAF had always said that a two-seater is not urgent, but Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt now admits that a dual seater is a necessity. "We realise that it is required, because the air forces interested in buying JF-17 want one," he said.

PAF pilots currently converting to JF-17 are accumulating around 25 hours on a JF-17 simulator operational at Kamra, where one of the two operational squadrons is based. Nearly all the Block 1s have now been delivered to the PAF, which has a current requirement for 150 to replace the ageing F-7P and Mirage III/Vs.

First Block 2 JF-17s under construction in Pakistan - IHS Jane's 360

Lol, I have seen jf-17 equipped with SD -10s at Peshawar airbase and you give me Jane's to prove me they are not, pity, must be dummies

 

[Bornubus]

So this thread is about Tejas or some Cheap Green Crap From china Pained in south Asia and used by Militaries who took left over weapons from US

 

[Dazzler]

Yes Still Better than Be a Paint-job Guy?

Are you a painter? Considering your fascination with paints I couldn't help it.

So this thread is about Tejas or some Cheap Green Crap From china Pained in south Asia and used by Militaries who took left over weapons from US

Bad news your Tejas is about to be delayed yet again. The induction of a single mighty radiance is a testament to another delay and Tue IAF is far from happy. All the feel good articles show just one side of the story.