No it doesn't exist today but it is not impossible....
Then, lets talk about it, when it is possible and actually exists. Its futile believing and basing things on things which dont even exist, isn't it?
If i assume you are right with your above point of Soviet myth about warm waters....
Then kindly clear this also....
In case Soviets fully captured Afghanistan and hold positions along with Durand Line....
Soviet and Indians have close ties at that time not like our ties with USA the sanction master....
If Pakistan is facing so much trouble to counter these current foreign funded puppets then how could Pakistan counter Soviet+Indian assault at that time, when the issue of Durand line was at the peak of rage....
I expected this. The relations between Soviet Union and Pakistan weren't as bad in that era, as they are now made out to be. Actually, quite the opposite. Moscow provided extensive FDI, aid and technical assistance to establish key industries in this country, since the 50's. These Steel Mill, Pakistan Oil Fields, Guddo thermal station and Al Ghazi tractors you see, are a remnant of past Soviet co-operation. The Reds once provided the support for Multan HWR and even offered to build civilian nuclear plants in the 90's. At the height of war, the Soviets signed an economic co-operation agreement with the Pakistanis, in '85. I think, it should give you an insight whether an approachment was or wasn't possible with that country and if the Reds were as fierce and dangerous an enemy, as you are told today. Furthermore, Moscow never planned to come to warm waters, it only so reluctantly entered Afghanistan to provide some stability to the communist regime, which was fast falling apart and wasn't confident of even doing so. This is easily verifiable from historical records. If you are unable to search it, let me know and I will provide the references. There are benefits of running a neutral and non-alligned foreign policy, which sadly the leadership sitting at Karachi and later Islamabad never truly learned, instead relying on fantasy brotherhoods with Arab countries and American support for the most of the country's history.
Foreign funded? Not really. Just a nation in denial about the extent of radicalization and extremism in the society and hence choosing to pass blame on foreign countries, as a defense mechanism. There is no shortage of people and resources in this country to import it from outside. With a highly radicalized population and assorted Jihadi laskars/organizations/apologists all around, terrorists have a large pool of people to select from. This Jamaat-e-Islami, Jamiat-Ulema-Islam (F), Lashkar Jhangvi, Jaish e Muhammad, TTP itself, Sipah e Sahaba, Hizb ul Tehrir along with a dozen other small organizations, in one way or other, make sure that Pakistan doesn't have to import any foreign agent or any futher ideology for terrorism in this country. As for the funding and other resources, the unaccounted chanda, kherat zakat and other donations made regularly to religious organizations is utilized well for the purpose, the deficit if any is taken care of, with the criminal activities of ransom,kidnapping, extortion in major cities. Furthermore, the donations from Gulf countries enhance the efforts of the Jihadi groups in the country. I hope that I dont have to explain about weapons and intelligence for these people now. That isn't to say that foreign countries do not create problems, terrorism is indeed funded from outside but it is separate from the religiously motivated terrorism. The people striving to impose real Islam on you through acts of terror and conquests, are your own people.
Yes there was a civil war between 1989-1995 and i didn't deny it although i didn't mention it also....
thank-you....
What does that tell you, about the true nature and objectives of the people, we once supported? Was it then wise doing what we did?
1995 a small group rise with emotional appeal "Naan and Amnia" (Rooti aur Aman). Taliban leader Mulla Omar was their leader, at that time fought with Ahmed Shah Masood for Kabul, when Mulla Omar captured Kabul, Ahmes Shah Masood retreat to Northern Areas, Afghan Taliban did some harsh justice they completely remove Afeem crops, which ends civil war overnight. Afghanistan has a culture of survival, later they have local turf wars but no civil war and most important no one is creating problem for Pakistan untill 2001....
Not exactly, thats I believe that you have had read in Ummat or Zarb-e-Momin or literatures distributed after friday sermons. Lol The Taliban were created by ISI in 1994 with extensive military backing along with diplomatic and logistical support. Imagine the extent of this operation that until the American invasion of Afghanistan, thousands of active duty
FC soldiers would fight alongside the Taliban. You have been lied to, for long.
Believe me these are most shocking words for me at the PDF, do you believe that we create Taliban and Mulla Omar in 1995....????
As far as i know Taliban was a self creation of society which was burning with civil war....
When they emerge as a force after capturing Kabul, Saudia Arab and Pakistan were the first to recognize them....
No. Check two things, one a person recently very vocal about operation against Taliban and peace talks with them, Sami-ul-Haq. Second, learn how Ahmed Shah Massoud lost against Taliban in '96.
Yes Few Arabs, Few Afghans and mostly Uzbeks, Tajiks and Chechens also some supporters from inside Pakistan are fighting against Pakistan....
But not even a single commander from the
Seven Party Alliance, which use to have Pakistan's support at the Afghan Jihad against Soviets....
Although some of them are died by natural death, Hekmatyar is still alive and active against USA not against Pakistan....
Afghan President Ashraf Ghani and Chief Executive Dr Abdullah Abdullah hold meaningful dialogue with Taliban and Hekmatyar immediately to restore peace in the war-torn country.
Afghan president asked to hold talks with Taliban, Hekmatyar - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
Not exactly "few" in number. If only they were so few in number, they would have been dealt with, by now. I said descendents of ideology, not exactly the same people, most of them would be dead by now. However, there is a small amount of fighters who have fought once against anti Taliban forces with active support from Pakistan and are now fighting against Pakistan itselfl. What we once did, has come to haunt us. The monsters we created are now out of control. Speak of blunders and tell me, where was the foresight at the higher echelons of Paksitani establishment to see all this?
The estimated population of Liyari Town is One million and the situation is very critical in this town, did they also come from another country....????
Yes absence of proper shelter and monitoring of Afghan Refuge is the lack of management from the govt....
Apples and Oranges. The Lyari town has been affected for long, due to gang wars and inter-racial fights. The case of Afghan refugees being involved in criminal and terrorists activities is very different.
There are some people like Hamid Karzai who was a former Unocal adviser an employee of Unicol for years before he was put in charge of Afghan by Bush as a puppet of big oil companies....
You cannot expect good from puppet people like Hamid Karzai....
There are millions of such Karazais in the land you hold dear and the people you call as your brothers. This Karzai just got enough power to harm your country on an appreciable scale.
Didn't i tell you clearly in my previous post that criminal must be punished whether he is our Muslim Brother or Not....
Why do I think that you aren't really comprehending my posts?
I am not going to predict any thing about it, but it will be clear after some time, after war against TTP, after removal of foreign forces from Afghanistan....
This is an evasive maneuever of an answer, the terrorists of Afghanistan condemning the death of the chief of the terrorists of Pakistan. What exactly is the dilemma here?
I answer you all questions and i also agreed on those points where i feel necessary....
You didn't answer my questions from the last post....
No explanation please just answer simply Yes or No
Do you believe in the Concept of Muslim Brotherhood....????
Does Muslim Brotherhood has any thing to do with the act of Individual....????
I dont believe in something that doesn't exist. When I will see it, I will believe it and Yes, the brotherhood would have everything to do with collective acts of a larger number of individuals.
