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It doesnt matter what you do
In the end PAK army will surrender like 1971 or send Imran khan to US to request ceasefire like 1999, while PN will spend all its time trying to safeguard karachi

Both PA and PN will ruin whatever good work PAF does, like they have been doing for decades
I doubt there is anything sensible to surrender of at this point. Back then it was a different time. India poked Pakistan wrongly thinking they could try whatever they wanted politically. Pakistan responded back, resulting in 3 aircraft being lost, a MiG-21 shot by PAF with the pilot fortunate to have made it alive. An Su-30MKI by claim and a rescue helicopter that was being denied initially and now lately has been accepted as friendly fire.

I don't want to know what they have told those respective IAF families whose husbands and wives died on that day, but Pakistan now is not the same Pakistan of 1971. Mistakes are thoroughly discussed for being mission ready, and to add a little bit spice to this post. The 27th Feb 2019 mission was simulated numerous times the past couple of years, Indian Air Force is fortunate to have mostly landed back.

Moral of this is, don't ever underestimate anybody when trying to start a fight.
 
Boeing pushes hard for jet contracts; looks to Super Hornet for Navy, IAF



SOURCE: Ajai Shukla / Business Standard
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US aerospace major, Boeing, which accounts for most of the $18-billion worth of weaponry that Washington has sold India since 2005, is pressing hard to win a $7-8 billion Indian Navy contract for 57 aircraft carrier-borne fighters.
Boeing has begun testing its flagship naval fighter, the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, which it intends to offer the Indian Navy,to prove it can operate from any of the Indian Navy’s three carriers: the in-service INS Vikramaditya; Vikrant, which is to be commissioned by 2022; and INS Vishal, which is still on the drawing board.
“Boeing and the US Navy are in the beginning phases of operating an F/A-18 Super Hornet from a ski jump at Naval Air Station Patuxent River to demonstrate it is STOBAR compliant for the Indian Navy,” states Boeing.
In STOBAR (short take off but arrested recovery) aircraft carrier operations, fighters get airborne by flying off a “ski-jump” like slope at the end of the flight deck. The aircraft land back by snagging their tail hooks on arrestor wires spread across the deck, which drag them to a halt. Both INS Vikramditya and Vikrant are STOBAR carriers.
US Navy aircraft carriers and their aircraft such as the Super Hornet are, however, built for “catapult assisted take off but arrested recovery” (CATOBAR). In this, on-board aircraft are accelerated to take-off speed by a steam or electro-magnetic catapult, doing away with the need for a ski-jump. INS Vishal is being built as a CATOBAR carrier.
Proving that the Super Hornet can operate off both STOBAR and CATOBAR carriers would enhance India’s fleet commonality and economy.


Before commencing ski-jump tests, Boeing says the Super Hornet has completed more than 150 computer simulations. “While our assessment has shown the Block III Super Hornet is very capable of launching off a ski jump, this is the next step in demonstrating that capability,” said Boeing.
The shore-based ski-jump at Patuxent River was built to test the F-35B Lightning II – the short take-off and vertical landing (STOVL) version of the Joint Strike Fighter. India, too, has built a similar shore-based facility in Goa for testing the naval version of the Tejas fighter.
The Indian Navy began the acquisition of 57 multi-role carrier borne fighters (MRCBF) in 2017 by issuing a Request for Information (RFI) about “day and night capable, all weather, multi-role, deck based combat aircraft, which can be used for air defence, air-to-surface operations, buddy refuelling, reconnaissance [and] electronic warfare missions from Indian Navy aircraft carriers.”
The 2017 RFI specifically asks vendors whether the fighter they are offering is capable of STOBAR as well as CATOBAR operations.
The quest for a MRCBF is rooted in the navy’s disappointment over the unreliable performance of 45 MiG-29K/KUB fighters that it procured from Russia along with INS Vikramaditya.
The need for a MRCBF was made even more urgent by delays in developing a naval version of the indigenous Tejas light fighter. The navy assessed that the single-engine fighter could not carry enough weaponry, or fuel payload, to allow it to operate effectively off a carrier. Naval planners, therefore, have rejected the Tejas Mark 1 and stated they want a heavier, more powerful, twin-engine fighter that India can develop only by 2025.
The formal MRCBF tender is still awaited but industry analysts believe the contenders will be: The Super Hornet, the MiG-29K/KUB and navalised versions of the Rafale and Gripen E, called the Rafale Marine and Sea Gripen, respectively.


Ironically, Boeing’s thrust in the MRCBF procurement comes at a time when a stressed defence budget has placed a question mark over the acquisition of a third carrier. The Indian Air Force (IAF) argues that shore-based air power is more effective than carrier-based fighters, and costs less. The tri-service chief, General Bipin Rawat, who prioritises expenditure between the three services, has expressed reservations over spending heavily on an aircraft carrier and its air wing.


Boeing could also offer the Super Hornet in the ongoing IAF procurement of 114 medium fighters, achieving economy of scale by taking the numbers up to 171 aircraft. Saab will seek similar benefits, while Dassault – which has already sold India 36 Rafales and would also compete in both these tenders – would garner even greater benefits of scale.
Meanwhile, Boeing is also weighing restricting the Super Hornet offer to the Indian Navy, while offering the IAF its upgraded F-15EX fighter. Pratyush Kumar, who oversees the F-15 programme, confirmed last month that Boeing had requested the US government for a marketing licence to commence discussions with New Delhi about the F-15EX. However, Boeing will only decide whether to offer the Super Hornet or the F-15EX once the IAF defines the specifications of the fighter it wants.
 
For instance your chinese made jf 17s have suffered multiple crashes but out Tejas not even one and is now operational with 2 squadrons, no. 18 and no. 45 and also has been pressed into frontline service.
What about F-22 crashes and F-35 crashes? are those made by China?
 
I doubt there is anything sensible to surrender of at this point. Back then it was a different time. India poked Pakistan wrongly thinking they could try whatever they wanted politically. Pakistan responded back, resulting in 3 aircraft being lost, a MiG-21 shot by PAF with the pilot fortunate to have made it alive. An Su-30MKI by claim and a rescue helicopter that was being denied initially and now lately has been accepted as friendly fire.

I don't want to know what they have told those respective IAF families whose husbands and wives died on that day, but Pakistan now is not the same Pakistan of 1971. Mistakes are thoroughly discussed for being mission ready, and to add a little bit spice to this post. The 27th Feb 2019 mission was simulated numerous times the past couple of years, Indian Air Force is fortunate to have mostly landed back.

Moral of this is, don't ever underestimate anybody when trying to start a fight.

There is no proof of the SU-30 kill. Neither on Indian side nor on Pakistan side. On the other hand, no one can deny the data from 3 radars which showed an F-16 going down and then a Mig-21.
 
There is no proof of the SU-30 kill. Neither on Indian side nor on Pakistan side. On the other hand, no one can deny the data from 3 radars which showed an F-16 going down and then a Mig-21.
Read that I wrote Su-30MKI claim. Similarly no proof of a Viper kill. All that was displayed was a charred AMRAAM wreckage. Which any sane military follower would know that is not an aircraft part.
 
Read that I wrote Su-30MKI claim. Similarly no proof of a Viper kill. All that was displayed was a charred AMRAAM wreckage. Which any sane military follower would know that is not an aircraft part.
International world & PAF knows so is enough as the testament. From 27/Feb/19 ONWARDS NOT DARING TO COME CLOSE TO BORDER is the testament. Th Mi-17 search and rescue hovering in the vicinity was the testament of Su-30, until the panicked Indian Air Defence made a kabab out of it. Moreover, procuring 12 Su-30MK instead of 11 as attrition losses from Russia is the testament. Glorifying Rafale as new toy to address Indian cries is the testament. And above all Indian Lying habit and panic is the testament that RAPTER of the EAST got toasted along with one or both of its pilots.

So, whether you accept it or not doesnt matter because poor lads of SU-30 fell on wrong side of the LOC otherwise would have been served cup of tea.
 
International world & PAF knows so is enough as the testament. From 27/Feb/19 ONWARDS NOT DARING TO COME CLOSE TO BORDER is the testament. Th Mi-17 search and rescue hovering in the vicinity was the testament of Su-30, until the panicked Indian Air Defence made a kabab out of it. Moreover, procuring 12 Su-30MK instead of 11 as attrition losses from Russia is the testament. Glorifying Rafale as new toy to address Indian cries is the testament. And above all Indian Lying habit and panic is the testament that RAPTER of the EAST got toasted along with one or both of its pilots.

So, whether you accept it or not doesnt matter because poor lads of SU-30 fell on wrong side of the LOC otherwise would have been served cup of tea.

Su 3o mki claim as similar claim to shoot down F16. but, Both are just claims with no actual proof.

I would say that propaganda than nothing more.

On Topic:

If Rafale M would be better for INS...
 
maintaining aircraft carrier is very expensive and india economy is not too strong to support more than 2 aircraft carriers as many rich countries like u.k,germany,france, japan and russia are facing it difficult to maintain large fleet of aircraft carriers although they have much better indigenous weapon manufacturing ability as compared to india and their public living standard is much better than india which has large number of poor population
Let's assume the worst case and they can afford 3 or more carriers, what's the implications for Pakistan's security? Not good at all unless we have carrier killer subs dedicated to the role of hunting, seeking and destroying these carriers wherever they may be.
 
Su 3o mki claim as similar claim to shoot down F16. but, Both are just claims with no actual proof.

I would say that propaganda than nothing more.

On Topic:

If Rafale M would be better for INS...
There is no World or Russian claim only Indian claim without any substance rather lies. Raptor of the East to Rafale the new godess of Asia. Put Rafale in Ayoodya temple!!
 
Superhornet is a very capable and combat proven aircraft ... IMO, it is the best choice for the IN as they cannot lay their hands on the F-35. The only drawback is the price but given how much the Indians were willing to pay for the Rafael, I don't imagine this to be a large issue.
 

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