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Export bids for JF-17 Thunder Multirole Lightweight Fighter Aircraft

Have you ever taking geography during school life?
ARAB Nation that are in AFRICA are not there but all the ones in ASIA are there.
Look closely and this time open your eyes.
I have no idea what you're trying to say.

Libya, Morocco, and other nations aren't shown on the map, and they're very much a part of the middle east.
 
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Even if I'm only a "small" moderator and not allowed to edit here I would like to ask all members here to keep calm and leave all these provocations and country bashing !

IMO has a higher standard than some other purely politically ones in which each and every tread becomes a collection of trolling and bashing posts.

Thanks in advance,

Deino

Couldn't agree more. I would like Pakistani members to show composure and patience. We are better than these trolls.
 
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Can someone fill me in.. Which part of the JF-17 was designed, assembled or built in Pakistan? It's a plane built for Pakistan and them imported into Pakistan.....therefore its a Chinese export.

Its like saying the SU-30MKI is an Indian plane, which it is not.
as for your information, 58% parts of our JF-17 is made by PAC including wing, radome and center fuselage , why you indian called your crapy little LAST CHANCED AIRCRAFT your indigenous aircraft, its design is based on scaledown version of JAS-37 vigan without canard, its fly by wire system is develop and tested by american in late 80s and early 90s from F-16 VISTA, engine is also american, radar is ISRAELI, avionics are ISRAELI, FRENCH, RUSSIAN and some INDIAN, so why you indian fanboys think your crapy little LAST CHANCED AIRCRAFT is your indigenous aircraft, live in fools dream now you poor little indian:lol::cry::blah::blah::p::sick::sick::sick::sick::flame::flame::hitwall::hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:
 
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I have no idea what you're trying to say.

Libya, Morocco, and other nations aren't shown on the map, and they're very much a part of the middle east.

I don't know what the convention is where you're from but in the UK and the US AFAIK those countries you mentioned have always been referred to as North Africa. Egypt sometimes creeps in as 'Middle East' but it's not quite accurate.
 
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I don't know what the convention is where you're from but in the UK and the US AFAIK those countries you mentioned have always been referred to as North Africa. Egypt sometimes creeps in as 'Middle East' but it's not quite accurate.
The middle east usually refers to Arab nations + Iran and Israel. some maps sometimes include Turkey, such as the following.

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Some maps show Pakistan and Afghanistan to be in the middle east as well. From what I've been taught, the middle east is usually considered from Mauritania to Iran.
 
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There is no comparison between jf 17 and tejas.. unlike jf 17 tejas is not our mainline fighter.
Then how much time does one spent on non-front -line fighter ? 30 year and counting..

Then one can hardly imagine the time required to build, if Tejas or any other fighter was Front-line aircraft for that matter
 
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Will First JF-17 Export Spur New Buyers?

ISLAMABAD — Analysts say confirmation of the first JF-17 Thunder export order could encourage other potential buyers to step forward, but they acknowledge many factors could complicate a deal.

Analyst and former Air Force pilot Air Commodore Kaiser Tufail is optimistic that JF-17 will now attract further customers.

"I am sure that after the deal that has been signed with the hitherto unknown 'Asian' country, the aircraft sales will surely get a big boost, and many Asian and African countries might be interested in it," he said.

The customer in question is believed to be Myanmar, and the head of the country's Air Force, Gen. Khin Aung Myint, was in Pakistan at the end of May for a four-day visit at the invitation of the Pakistan Air Force. He met senior defense officials and toured various bases and installations, though little more was said about the trip at the time.

Details, such as cost and the number of aircraft involved, are not known, but deliveries are expected to commence in 2017, according to information made available by Air Commodore Khalid Mahmood, head of the Air Force's sales and marketing effort for the aircraft type.

When Defense News asked Mahmood if he thought potential customers would be encouraged by the deal, he was optimistic, but also realistic.

"The first deal will certainly encourage other potential customers to conclude deals with us," he said.

"However, it is difficult to give a timeline because there are many variables and mostly they depend on the customer countries. Sometimes it seems that the deal is around the corner but because of reasons like political instability in the country or in the neighborhood or for some other reasons, the timelines are pushed.

"So one is never sure unless the contract is inked," he added.

Similarly, in spite of the first export success, analyst author and former Australian defense attache to Islamabad Brian Cloughley says things will not be so simple.

"I think [China] and Pakistan will redouble efforts to sell the JF-17 but that in spite of this modest success will continue to find it difficult to do so," he said.

However, Cloughley still believes "given the reasonable price, absence of the usual technology-transfer strings attached, and overall effectiveness of the system, very attractive offers could be made."

Adding, "Central America and Africa might be good markets, especially given China's most active presence in both regions."

Argentina and Nigeria have previously been linked to potential orders, with the latter widely speculated to have been on the brink of signing a deal at the end of last year during Pakistan's biennial defense exhibition, the International Defence Exhibition And Seminar.

Argentina is still believed to be heavily targeted as it attempts to modernize its airpower, which has suffered from a lack of investment since the country's defeat in the 1982 Falklands War with the UK.

One target customer that may have slipped through the net is Egypt, which became the first export customer for France's Rafale and has recently been linked to a deal for MiG-29 Fulcrum fighters from Russia.

With large numbers of legacy Mig-21/F-7 and Mirage 5 fighters to be replaced, it would have been a lucrative customer, but Tufail believes it has been a missed opportunity for both.

"I think Egypt does not have the money to buy more fighters after the Rafale purchase," he said. "I think they would have done well to have gone for the JF-17, as they could have bought almost a 100 of them for the price of far fewer Rafales."

Nevertheless, three JF-17s are at the Paris Air Show, with one participating in the aerial display, in continuing efforts to attract more customers who may now be more interested after a first export deal has been confirmed.

Email: uansari@defensenews.com

Will First JF-17 Export Spur New Buyers?
 
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According to EXPRESS NEWSPAPER Pakistan finalized JF17 Thunder export deals with 12 countries
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Mubarrak ho!!

A reward for hard work due for a while but now a reality.

To my understanding - the export target country in 'Asia' doesn't mean South Asia - it means South East Asia (part of ASEAN)...so let the speculation run wild :-)

If it is indeed Myanmar then our air force planners have some extra brain cells to burn.
 
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According to this news Air Vice Marshal Arshad Malik has said Pakistan has signed initial contracts with 12 countries for supply of JF-17 to them. The deliveries will begin in 2017. Either our news papers have totally gone mad or PAF is really genius that they have managed to sign contracts with 12 countries.
 
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