This is pathetic; I DO NOT claim to be a moderate. That is a straw man built by you and others like you to strike down and prove a dubious point.
I do claim to be a pacifist; there is a difference. I do not want war between our two nations, but until that point, my nation's long-standing policies - NOT those concocted by the present bunch of mountebanks - have my full support. If it comes to that, we have had war thrust upon us four times and we have had to fight back, and there is nothing moderate or extremist in any loyal Indian stating that.
Absolutely, NO. How does that make me a moderate or an extremist?
YES, when established. Not based on vague, fanboy accusations.
It does. That was a situation when Pakistan refused, not once but on numerous occasions, to take steps to calm things down, and to stop massacring its own citizens.
Pakistan at that point had completely lost its moral authority in East Pakistan.
I am not, and have never claimed to be. It is you and your kind who have tried to stick all kinds of labels on, in order to win a cheap victory proving them, of your own originating, spurious. I am, and continue to be, one who hopes for peace between our two nations, but not at any cost; not at the cost of sacrificing our entire stand, not at the cost of succumbing entirely to the entire dhobi-list of demands from the other side.
Bullshit.
Take out your frustrations elsewhere.
There is nothing to see through.
The benefits of having been brought up in the west are far from visible in your case. It has made no difference.
Try to understand this that follows: it will be difficult, and will give you a headache, but persist, because I will say it only once.
I am a liberal as far as my country's politics is concerned. I do not see where liberalism spills over into foreign policy, or into the stand that my country has taken, outside the belligerence and bigotry of the present generation of bhakts. As far as my being a bhakt is concerned, it is apparent from your diatribe that you wouldn't recognise one if you were kicked in - the elbow, shall we say? - by one. There are obnoxious bhakts in plenty on PDF; it is better that you ask them. Do not trust your own judgement; it does not exist.
Surgical strike? Reminds me of something, but I can't seem to recall exactly.
Part of my fury against you, and against another almost like you, whom I have put on my ignore list out of sheer frustration, is that you have an abundance of talent but have chosen to put it to perverted use. I can stand the unreconstructed peasants who spout venom against another country, in season and out of season; I cannot stand it when an obviously educated and - irrespective of what I say to diminish your arguments - a well-rounded person of some social standing behaves in this utterly insufferable manner. And you may pass on my compliments to
@El Sidd as well, the other character who completely enfuriates me. For the rest, for the gutter-tongues, I have only affectionate disdain, with the two vying for primacy depending on the thread.
You notice that I leave out the dozens of very respectable Pakistanis who mirror my feelings almost exactly, with polite, old-worldly courtesy towards me personally overlaying an inflexible loyalty to the national objectives of Pakistan. I count them among my friends; they are officers and gentlemen, whether they serve or not, they belong to that class, and however deeply I might oppose them, it is an opposition to their positions on various matters of interest to our nations. Not to them personally. I wish you had somewhere abandoned your trashy, shallow posturing and instead opted for their sentiments, for their devout loyalty to the state of Pakistan coupled with regard to the opponent who will uphold his country's interests to the utmost. Not one of them - not one! - has insulted my nation as a nation, or my people as a people, and it is inconceivable that they will. That is not the way we were brought up.
Take this away if you wish - I am NOT a moderate. I am a loyal Indian who will listen to another point of view, and will give it its due respect, and a liberal in the politics of my country, who hates the bhakts, despises the corruption of the Congress, and has seen the blood spilt by the Communists, and wishes to stand aloof from all of that pack. And I have never, ever, taken a sly delight in the excesses of the bhakts; there are some other Indians of my sort who do not dissemble but blurt out what they think, not because they are bhakts, but because they will not patiently sit and hammer out the exact, precise that they wish to convey, and hence get misunderstood by fanboys. I have thanked
@Jackdaws; he is not a bhakt. I have thanked
@BL33D; he is mischievous and far too prone to stirring up trouble to watch the fun that ensues, but he is not a bhakt. I have thanked
@Nilgiri; he and I are of opposite views on Indian politics - he is a conservative (not a bhakt) and I am a liberal - and I will not permit him to ride roughshod over the feelings of my Bangladeshi brethren, but we respect each other.
You will find it in the official court records of the accused in the recent trials of the leaders of these monsters.
Nothing happened before 25th March other than the revolt of the East Bengal Rifles the border guards, and the East Pakistan Regiment. Whatever 'massacres' you are referring to happened long afterwards, after Liberation. No side was clean in that civil war. I will not go further, because I do not want to light any fires.
