Eritrea soon on board for the alliance against houthi's

[Indus Pakistan]

well let see who the houthi got on their sides:

Hizbillah: Cuurently getting their behind whooped in the qalamon region.
Saleh: The cry baby who begged not long ago to the coalition he would abandon the houthi for his safe passage outside yemen.
Iran: The sissy zorgos shemales who has a history of winning battles and losing wars.
Assad: Currently packing his wife and kids luggage as they are leaving to britian.
Shia Minorities In the Gulf and pakistan: Bark hard then cry and yell "Ya Ali Madad" when they get the smash.
King salman the custodian of the two holy site got:

1.7 Billion Sunni.

Listen my friend most Pakistani's will stand by their Shia brothers in Pakistan. We may have some rabid dogs that have caught the infaction from ME but rest assured as a country we will never turn on our Shia. Besides anything they are 20% of our population and we are not in a hurry to turn Pakistan into another Iraq or Syria.

What I cannot understand about the ME is the west and Isreal are riding your backsides and all you guy's can see is Shia to kill. Amazing ...

Anyway keep your Shia/Sunni politics in Middle East ..

 

[ResurgentIran]

Well, it is a contradiction if we totally ignore who would end up ruling Yemen. For instance neither Houthi or AQAP rule is something that any sane neighbor would accept nor is it something that the Yemenis will accept themselves.

On the other hand a political compromise and a genuine power sharing for the better of Yemen is something that KSA supports.

I mean did Iran not support the Northern Alliance in nearby Afghanistan exactly because they feared Taliban hegemony? The same Taliban that is/was anti-Iran much like Houthi's were/are anti-KSA?

I don't see any difference really. Houthi's are no saints and they are very much a terrorist group/cult. Look at their slogans, how their group is ruled etc. It's just a Zaydi version of Taliban. That's actually a very fitting comparison.

Won't compare them to ISIS though or AQAP as they are another problem.

Im not saying Houthis are this and that. But you are not making the situation any better for Yemenis, are you?
Bombing infrastructure, food storages etc. I fail to see how that will alleviate the people of Yemen of their suffering.
The thing is that military capability is hugely overrated to achieve a political goal in another country.
These new princes of ksa seem to be a spitting image of George Bush's foreign policy.Very reactionary.
Not thinking about the long term ramifications, but instead just act on a knee-jerk reflex and bomb away.
So the Houthis took over Yemen. WHo cares?

I happen to think that Iran should stay out of it too, you know. Although Iran is not exactly involved in the situation in Yemen anyway, and the Houthis ascendancy has very little to do with Iran

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Every country tries to influence events in other countries to their own benefit, specially when it comes to their neighbors, nothing wrong with that.

I don't see anything surprising or strange about Saudi wanting to control events in Yemen in a way to ensure it benefits them. However, I do think their cowboy approach is destructive. They could have gone with it in a completely different approach. Once they saw that Houthis were getting an upper hand, they could have started talks with them. With Saudi's vastly bigger wealth, they could easily influenced events on the ground in a political, diplomatic manner. It's not like Saudis never worked with Houthis before. They could have done it again in such a way to transform Yemen into a reliable partner.

But instead they suddenly went in and started bombing. This might yield some short term benefits for Saudi, but in the long run, it could turn out to be disadvantageous to them.

If resilience and meaning business means a "cowboy" approach then so be it.

The new leadership had to show who was/is the "big boy" in the neighborhood. Houthi's were overly confident, Iranian Mullah's were barking about controlling the 4th Arab capital, Houthi's were making threats left and right etc. Something was about to be done.

I hail KSA's active role since King Salman. If you want to establish yourself as more than just an economic/religious power in the region you sometimes have to take such choices as hard as they might be.

This is new territory for KSA but it will be a valuable lesson to the country.

The Houthi's rejected all talks.

Even your media reported it.

PressTV- Houthis reject holding talks in Riyadh

That article is from early March.

A few days before the war began King Salman extended his hand to the Houthi's. It was rejected once again.

So please do yourself a favor and don't twist history here.

KSA had historically almost always cordial ties with the Yemeni Zaydi community (for instance KSA supported the Zaydi Imam as one of the few Arab countries) and KSA has a large Zaydi minority within their own border.

Houthi's on the other hand are a new movement. 20 years old. They do not speak for the Zaydi community.

We will see about that.

Once again I have to state that a country like Yemen is its worst enemy. Much like Afghanistan. The parallels between those two countries are astonishing. Neither KSA, Pakistan, Iran or the US will save those two countries.

Houthi's, AQAP, the Saleh clown, Hadi etc. and all that incompetence and trouble would not be present in Yemen had the Yemenis been doing their business in a right way. Sadly they can't do that and that's been the case for AGES.

You have no idea how much money KSA has donated to Yemen, how many Yemenis we host, how much infrastructure we have built, how many businesses we have tried to start etc. All of that almost always face big obstacles for various reasons WITHIN Yemen.

I am sorry but I almost believe that we should finish our 1600 km long border along Yemen and simply seal it off. Only be active when rude elements in Yemen threaten our security and country. Tired of their nonsense. Same with Iraq.

 

[Madali]

If resilience and meaning business means a "cowboy" approach then so be it.

The new leadership had to show who was/is the "big boy" in the neighborhood. Houthi's were overly confident, Iranian Mullah's were barking about controlling the 4th Arab capital, Houthi's were making threats left and right etc. Something were about to be done.

I hail KSA's active role since King Salman. If you want to establish yourself as more than just an economic/religious power in the region you sometimes have to take such choices as hard as they might be.

This is new territory for KSA but it will be a valuable lesson to the country.

The Houthi's rejected all talks.

Even your media reported it.

PressTV- Houthis reject holding talks in Riyadh

That article is from early March.

A few days before the war began King Salman extended his hand to the Houthi's. It was rejected once again.

So please do yourself a favor and don't twist history here.

KSA had historically almost always cordial ties with the Yemeni Zaydi community (for instance KSA supported the Zaydi Imam as one of the few Arab countries) and KSA has a large Zaydi minority within their own border.

Houthi's on the other hand are a new movement. 20 years old. They do not speak for the Zaydi community.

We will see about that.

Once again I have to state that a country like Yemen is its worst enemy. Much like Afghanistan. The parallels between those two countries are astonishing. Neither KSA, Pakistan, Iran or the US will save those two countries.

The strength of a country would be in trying to get the results it wants by using approaches that gets the highest benefit with the least cost. That's how the British, a tiny country, built the biggest empire in the world.

From the link you posted, it seemed that Houthis rejected talks in Riyadh. Why not convince them to have talks in a different country? Why even have public talks, when Saudis could have spoken to them in private, meditating between different tribes and groups, backed by a big brother neighbourly statues and financial strength to mold the events the way they desired.

I don't think attacking Yemen is the best approach for KSA's long term interest in regards to Yemen. I know everyone in Saudi is feeling proud for KSA being suddenly decisive as reported by today's Financial Time's article,

“The Yemen war seems to be creating a newfound nationalist fervour,” says Jane Kinninmont, deputy head of the Middle East programme at the Chatham House think-tank, who contrasts the mood with the former “period where many Saudis felt militarily impotent and frustrated at the lack of either Saudi or Arab capacity to act militarily — particularly in Syria. “The war is creating a sense that the new leadership is confident, active and strong.”

But this American style adventurism is not the right method to copy from the west. It's hard to even say if America's approach is beneficial for their own country, but even if we say it is, America isn't bombing it's neighbors. It's bombing countries far away, which means they will face no real blow back.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Im not saying Houthis are this and that. But you are not making the situation any better for Yemenis, are you?
Bombing infrastructure, food storages etc. I fail to see how that will alleviate the people of Yemen of their suffering.
The thing is that military capability is hugely overrated to achieve a political goal in another country.
These new princes of ksa seem to be a spitting image of George Bush's foreign policy.Very reactionary.
Not thinking about the long term ramifications, but instead just act on a knee-jerk reflex and bomb away.
So the Houthis took over Yemen. WHo cares?

I happen to think that Iran should stay out of it too, you know. Although Iran is not exactly involved in the situation in Yemen anyway, and the Houthis ascendancy has very little to do with Iran

Depends on the outlook. On the short term? Probably not. It's not like Yemen was peaceful before the air bombardments. Houthi's were actually fighting against their opposition in several Yemeni towns. I mean Yemen since Saleh left was in a war state almost. If you look at it on the long term many if not most Yemenis could live with that if that meant the end of Houthi rule.

Houthi's are bombed. I don't believe that anyone is bombing civilians deliberately and in any case this is war. Civilians unfortunately die but I have always been against bombing civilian targets or civilian infrastructure. I wrote it the first day the conflict started here.

Iran is very much involved. The conflict is discussed a lot in the Iranian media. Iran supports the Houthi's politically. Your regime has also been supporting them financially, militarily and politically for a very long time.

UN report: Iran arming Houthis since 2009

Anyway those conflicts are getting tiring for me so we better end this discussion here and agree to disagree.

All the best to Yemen as well.

Can you take over here @azzo

Really tired and got to study, lol. Too much PDF for me, lol and that discussion yesterday was enough for a lifetime. Epic trolling.

 

[ResurgentIran]

Depends on the outlook. On the short term? Probably not. It's not like Yemen was peaceful before the air bombardments. Houthi's were actually fighting against their opposition in several Yemeni towns. I mean Yemen since Saleh left was in a war state almost. If you look at it on the long term many if not most Yemenis could live with that if that meant the end of Houthi rule.

Houthi's are bombed. I don't believe that anyone is bombing civilians deliberately and in any case this is war. Civilians unfortunately die but I have always been against bombing civilian targets or civilian infrastructure. I wrote it the first day the conflict started here.

Iran is very much involved. The conflict is discussed a lot in the Iranian media. Iran supports the Houthi's politically. Your regime has also been supporting them financially, militarily and politically for a very long time.

UN report: Iran arming Houthis since 2009

Anyway those conflicts are getting tiring for me so we better end this discussion here and agree to disagree.

All the best to Yemen as well.

Can you take over here @azzo

Really tired and got to study, lol. Too much PDF for me, lol and that discussion yesterday was enough for a lifetime. Epic trolling.

Yes, there are hotheads who do a lot of rhetoric and there is a lot of media attention. That in and of itself is not a proof of Iranian support (material) for Houthis. Beyond rhetoric, Iranian involvement in Yemen is minuscule. And deep down, I think you agree.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Yes, there are hotheads who do a lot of rhetoric and there is a lot of media attention. That in and of itself is not a proof of Iranian support (material) for Houthis. Beyond rhetoric, Iranian involvement in Yemen is minuscule. And deep down, I think you agree.

The UN already confirmed Iranian support to the Houthi's (military) since 2009. Weapon shipments from Iran intended for the Houthi's have been confiscated by the Yemeni navy. Before this war started (when most Iranians were cheering for Houthi's and claiming that KSA would be next, lol, and questioned KSA's passivity - those posts are free for all to see) they even posted photos of those weapon shipments that were caught.

I never wrote that Houthi's were created by Iran. Houthi's would survive without Iran tomorrow. That's not the point. What I am saying is that Iran is not a neutral party here and that they HAVE indeed supported them militarily, financially and most importantly politically. The last thing is something they do while we speak.

In any case we can blame many factors here and many parties but in the end I think that I am right when I say that the main problem is Yemen as a whole and the indigenious problems of Yemen just like in Afghanistan, Iraq and other troublesome states.

Also I really struggle to see what KSA should have done otherwise when the Houthi's were rejecting any political solution? Parties on the rise would never agree on something like that and that's why the Houthi's rejected it.

We also totally omit the very big role of Saleh and his loyalists who teamed up with the Houthi's. They are actually half of the story here.

 

[flamer84]

Wiki is not reliable. The truth is the majority are Muslims. Only one tribe are Christians aka Tigrinia.

Source - Me and Beles are Eritrean so it's better keep your mouth shut before spreading garbish.

That's your truth,a lie.The Tigrinia while being only a tribe make up for 55% of the population.Eritrea is a majoritary Christian country,you and the other poster are blatant liars.Yes,Christians make a little over 50% of the population but they're still a majority,no chance of Eritrea being a Muslim country in its majority.How can you people lie like this in the day of the internet when everyone can search obvious info,do you think you live in the jungle ?

Eritrea - Religions

 

[beast89]

Our Somali, Zanzibari, Comorian and Malidivian brothers are always welcome to join their brothers and sisters. Those regions have extremely close historical ties to the Arab world (Arabian Peninsula) and many people there are of Arab origin. Also in Eritrea.

Have they fought against the Houthi terrorists yet? It's called allies.

Why did the US need a coalition of almost 30 + countries when they invaded Iraq and Afghanistan?

Let countries decided on their own. KSA is not forcing a gun at our allies to join them or support them.

Those that have not joined actively have ALL said that KSA's security is a red line. We are grateful for all our allies and the huge support.

Other countries are in return sanctioned, isolated and loathed by the masses.

funny in this thread you were boasting how wise is to send Senegalese to die in battle which you perceive to be meaningless. For Pakistan: War drums just got louder at Yemen-Saudi border | Page 16
Al-hasani being dishonest again. @libertad this what he really thinks about africans fighting in this war for KSA, he deleted his post after I quoted him in that thread.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

funny in this thread you were boasting how wise is to send Senegalese to die in battle which you perceive to be meaningless. For Pakistan: War drums just got louder at Yemen-Saudi border | Page 16
Al-hasani being dishonest again. @libertad this what he really thinks about africans fighting in this war for KSA, he deleted his post after I quoted him in that thread.

Is that above something I should take seriously or is that your usual trolling/obsession about me?

This is what I wrote and I stand by it. Nothing wrong with it.

"Besides such moves are clever. Indeed since the Houthi's are not an existential threat to KSA at all then I would rather have some Senegalese going against the Houthi's in what I would personally consider a pointless ground invasion rather than young Saudi Arabians losing lives."

I did not delete anything. My post must have been deleted.

In the case of an ACTUAL ground invasion which I am against and have always been then obviously Saudi Arabian soldiers will take part as well so there will be no difference on the battlefield as all will be on the same boat. Got it?

Also you must have missed something here. Nobody is forcing any country at gunpoint to join KSA against the Houthi's. They are offering their support themselves.

 

[beast89]

Are you thick as usual or just trolling?

This is what I wrote and I stand by it. Nothing wrong with it.

"Besides such moves are clever. Indeed since the Houthi's are not an existential threat to KSA at all then I would rather have some Senegalese going against the Houthi's in what I would personally consider a pointless ground invasion rather than young Saudi Arabians losing lives."

In the case of an ACTUAL ground invasion which I am against and have always been then obviously Saudi Arabian soldiers will take part as well so there will be no difference on the battlefield as all will be on the same boat. Got it?

Also you must have missed something here. Nobody is forcing any country at gunpoint to join KSA against the Houthi's. They are offering their support themselves.

Lastly Northern Sudanese are Arabs while those I mentioned are not Arabs regardless of having ties to the Arab world, the Arabian Peninsula in particular.

your not fooling anyone on here. Hypothetical or not that statement shows how you view your African allies. Clearly if it went to a ground and you were in charge it clear to see who would be sent first. I doubt the royals think differently than furthermore they have their image and monarchy to protect.

Seriously you are starting to sound like a broken record going on about genetics and what not.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

your not fooling anyone on here. Hypothetical or not that statement shows how you view your African allies. Clearly if it went to a ground and you were in charge it clear to see who would be sent first. I doubt the royals think differently than furthermore they have their image and monarchy to protect.

Seriously you are starting to sound like a broken record going on about genetics and what not.

Fooling who? I stand by what I wrote and nothing that I wrote is "wrong" in any way. I could have written the same thing about Qataris but that thread happened to be about Senegalese a rumor that is incorrect anyway but let's leave that aside.
I have been consistent on the Yemeni crisis since day 1.

Sure, I beat poor Africans in my pastime, that's why I have excellent relations with them whether from Eritrea, Ethiopia or Somalia.

Your cheap attempt at causing division between Arabs and the Eritrean, Ethiopian and Somalian users here on PDF will fail.

Besides I have NEVER asked anyone for any troops. Do you understand this simple fact? Do you also understand that those countries themselves are offering their help to KSA?

In the case of an ACTUAL ground invasion which I am against and have always been then obviously Saudi Arabian soldiers will take part as well so there will be no difference on the battlefield as all will be on the same boat. Got it?

Nor do I like to see Arabs fight each other and this is why I would prefer a political solution in a perfect world and why I am in principle against a ground invasion but not only due to that as I already explained many, many times.

I have praised the history of Horn of Africa (a history that we to a large degree share in common for some stages of history) and opened threads about those countries when most users here ridicule them or can't even pinpoint them on a map.

The users in question from those countries can themselves confirm this above to be correct.

Cheap attempt. Very cheap. Keep being obsessive about my person. I love it buddy.

Funny that you quote some 1 month old post in a totally unrelated thread that is by no means controversial or "anti-African" yet you totally omit the grave insults that Salman wrote towards the Eritrean people IN THIS VERY THREAD or some of the comments by your compatriots or your beloved Farsis! What a joke beast89 and you know it.

In fact I even wrote that I find some of the Habeshi women good looking. What more do you want from me? Ethiopian coffee is great too. Many of our Afro-Arabs are originally from the Horn of Africa. Great people by large.

Learn to distinguish between your typical PDF trolling and real opinions. You must be a clown if you believe that I have anything against Africans or other people for that matter because of their race.

@ebray @Saho @Belew_Kelew

 

[Madali]

It's no surprise that a Saudi person would rather an African soldier die than their own countrymen. Every country is like that.

But what's surprising is that an Eritrean would rather an Eritrean die than a Saudi.

 

[Belew_Kelew]

That's your truth,a lie.The Tigrinia while being only a tribe make up for 55% of the population.Eritrea is a majoritary Christian country,you and the other poster are blatant liars.Yes,Christians make a little over 50% of the population but they're still a majority,no chance of Eritrea being a Muslim country in its majority.How can you people lie like this in the day of the internet when everyone can search obvious info,do you think you live in the jungle ?

Eritrea - Religions

Dude Tigrigna today don't even make 35% of the Eritrean population today, that was maybe 30 years ago. The birthrate of the Muslims is almost double. The saho and Afars has doubled and many is predicting that saho and afars will be the two majority tribes in 50 years. The Nara and Kunama has increased as well. The Tigre especially those represented by the coastal Clans of Habab and Meshalit in semhar has more than doubled while the tigrigna shrank due to migration and low birthrate urban dwelling.

Also you forgot to mention that more than 20% of the tigrigna tribe are muslims or did you forgot to add the "Jeberti" for your convinence? Eritrean population is 6 Million and 2/3 of them is Muslim. Eritrea diaspora (1st,2nd gen. etc) is more than 2 Million and 90% of them Is muslim. If you are Eritrean it's not hard to figure it out the break up of the tribes and towns in Eritrea makes it easy. beside if you go to eritrea even the christians who are educated would tell you that. The number on Wiki is exactly the same percentage as the Ethiopian numbers for muslims which was fabricated for political reasons. all other main sources put muslim population in Eritrea at upto 65% while the government official source showed 50% for eritrea. The only way for eritrea to have a christian majority is to consider the jeberti and Tigre as christains which is not true.

 

[mike2000 is back]

well let see who the houthi got on their sides:

Hizbillah: Cuurently getting their behind whooped in the qalamon region.
Saleh: The cry baby who begged not long ago to the coalition he would abandon the houthi for his safe passage outside yemen.
Iran: The sissy zorgos shemales who has a history of winning battles and losing wars.
Assad: Currently packing his wife and kids luggage as they are leaving to britian.
Shia Minorities In the Gulf and pakistan: Bark hard then cry and yell "Ya Ali Madad" when they get the smash.


King salman the custodian of the two holy site got:

1.7 Billion Sunni.

Huh.....sorry to ask brother, but what beef/issues/problem does Eritrea has wih Shias/Iran etc? Moreover, is Erithrea a Sunni country? Having been to several African countries, Im quite familiar with many African countries and their history(since Africa is a continent i love, though aint been to Eritrea yet.lol). I think Eritrea should better stay out of this conflict since its quite complex(though i know the monetary/investment rewards KSA wil be offering are too tempting to reject.lol).
Im curious to know more about Eritrea's religious makeup. Moreover, i know Eritreans have very good/capable/experienced soldiers, they are one of the toughest in Africa(along with Chad, Ethiopia, South Africa) having fought several wars and gained their independence through violence/civil war against a much bigger ennemy(Ethiopia) against all odds as Ethiopia was supported by both the U.S and U.S.S.R. That's no easy feet. I bet Eritrean soldiers can easily overun even KSA army.

Anyway,Hopefully we will have more members from sub sharan africa like you on here, there are hardly any. Welcome bro.