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EMALS alone will force India to go for Nuclear Propulsion for INS Vishal: Naval Source

the amount of tharkiness ive witnessed on PDF is just mind blowing:welcome::pdf:

tharkiness pervades all that it touches on pdf... it makes the face hot and sweaty, cleans facial pores and cleanses the soul off violence and war.
- pdf ka sasta confucius.

and zarvan bhai is a occasional visitor to the "pakistani models and actresses" thread. :D
 
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EMALs will come with launch software coded to give an excellent level of control to the United States over the Indian carrier.
Please, tell us more. i presume you have extensive experience with EMALS. Also please cleanup troll posts on this thread - thanks



strange then that there has been no operating system from india in 45 years. *innocent shrug, innocent face*

the great grand mr. v.k. saraswat, when head of drdo, had announced in 2010 that drdo would give india a hack-proof, crash-proof operating system[1] :



then he said the same thing in 2012[2] but with a addition :



then in 2014, the new drdo head, prakash chander said this[3] :

hain?? so the sooper-dooper os has already been developed?? and drdo is designing a entirely radical microprocessor?? and this is february 2016?? what is the name of the os and the processor?? so those "150 engineers working across the country to create a indian os" were successful but i was unaware??

microsoft, linux, arm, intel, ibm - move away... the indian os and indian microprocessor is here. :agree:

door hatto, door hatto ae duniya waalon, hindustan ka os aaya hai.



lage haath unse ek operating system bhi likhwaadein, hazoor.


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[1] Saraswat: DRDO working on India's own computer operating system - The Hindu

[2] Indian OS developed by DRDO likely to be ready in three years - timesofindia-economictimes

[3] DRDO Flags Spyware Threat on Imported Arms -The New Indian Express

You seem to be quite butthurt with positive development in Indian Navy... Why am I not surprised. Take your offtopic banter elsewhere.

@PARIKRAMA Mig29K's or LCA MK2 ( or the same 15-15 mix)?
 
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Mig29K's or LCA MK2 ( or the same 15-15 mix)?

99% mig29k's... LCA naval varaint has some serious UC issue.. I feel we may add few NLCA post this issue being solved. The news buzz was that Dassault are suppose to help LCA navy program under DPP2016 clause of what MOD wants as one of the tangible offsets.

But I do see perhaps few in numbers later deployed to get the real-time data feeding the naval program. So later may be half a squadron or 6-10 but that would be closer to 2022-23 types

for a source to this UC help part

Source 1
In boost for 'Make in India', Dassault may manufacture Rafale fighter aircraft in India - The Economic Times
In boost for 'Make in India', Dassault may manufacture Rafale fighter aircraft in India
By Manu Pubby, ET Bureau | 27 Nov, 2015,

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Besides the joint production facilities in India, the French side is also set to transfer some key technologies to DRDO that would benefit the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) project. A complete list of the technology to be transferred is being finalised but would include several systems to make the LCA more effective.

Technology to be transferred includes the air intake system for the fighter, an undercarriage for the naval variant of the LCA, cutting edge radar absorbing painting technology as well as an integrated production line software and management system for the fighter aircraft.

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Source 2
Dassault to assist with LCA Navy Mk.2
Dassault to assist with LCA Navy Mk.2
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Current Naval LCA MK-1 suffered several long delays due to over-engineered undercarriage which also was overweight in turn limiting operational capability of the jets. lack of expertise’s and understanding of safety limits required for undercarriage and landing gears lead to the design of heavier and over-engineered systems for Naval LCA MK-1. by roping in Dassault Aviation, India wants to let LCA Navy Mk.2 developers bring right balance between Safety Standards and meeting standard operational capability of the jets to avoid unnecessary delays in the programme.
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tharkiness pervades all that it touches on pdf... it makes the face hot and sweaty, cleans facial pores and cleanses the soul off violence and war.
- pdf ka sasta confucius.

and zarvan bhai is a occasional visitor to the "pakistani models and actresses" thread. :D

ye m kea sun rha ho'n anarth kr dea ap ny yeh ghoshna kr k:o:
it seems that sufi likes to be grilled-------:rofl:
 
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@PARIKRAMA @MilSpec met a group captain from the IAF while traveling to my native last night. He was from the maintenance command. He kept saying, our metallurgical expertise is rubbish. Till we get that in place, we can develop all the designs in the world but not the engine and the major components. How true is this? And are we doing anything for solving this?
 
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ooh, i don't want to be on the receiving end.

and i just remembered that he is no longer using "mister". :D
yeah that;s funny, this mister word was the only catharsis for him, mister don't do that , mister enough---- wait, what,Holy shit, he is not using mister----the time is approaching:fie:
 
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Like trying to install a makeshift OS on an Apple device and hoping it will not malfunction and uncle SAM not knowing about it because they will be graciously pissed. Not to over emphasize the fact that one malfunction will cost you a son and a 50 million dollar jet.

We will write the Software, 3-4 IIT wale din rath bathe ke kardenge coding
 
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Like trying to install a makeshift OS on an Apple device and hoping it will not malfunction and uncle SAM not knowing about it because they will be graciously pissed. Not to over emphasize the fact that one malfunction will cost you a son and a 50 million dollar jet.
Good point. The son won't be the issue as evidenced at Pathankot.. The 50m will be.
 
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@PARIKRAMA @MilSpec met a group captain from the IAF while traveling to my native last night. He was from the maintenance command. He kept saying, our metallurgical expertise is rubbish. Till we get that in place, we can develop all the designs in the world but not the engine and the major components. How true is this? And are we doing anything for solving this?

Partially true.. We are making slow progress .. of course you require a good budget to first enable research and also hi tech place to conduct such researches... Both of which is very limited in India as of now...

An article in 2003 caused quite a small stir among def followers .. it was in Hindu

The Hindu : An 'Indian' jet engine — still a dream
An 'Indian' jet engine — still a dream
Monday, Nov 17, 2003

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Very few institutions of higher education in India have an aerospace department that has aero engine study as part of the syllabus; almost none have an exclusive optional subject such as aero engine technology. Decades ago, the steel industry came up in India to lay a strong foundation near the iron ore mines. Aluminium is abundant but has been thought of mainly as an airframe material. Though alchemy is mentioned in mythology, materials to make an aero engine have not attracted much attention in India.

Metallurgy and material science are the core of aero engine technology. The higher the temperature that can be generated and handled in a jet engine combustion chamber, the higher is the thrust. The materials used need to withstand the higher temperature. Material science leads the technology, now.

Till the LCA programme started making news and was given a thrust, hardly any private entrepreneur had contributed to aviation technology in India. Even now, very few contribute to the aero engine development. The industry needs large investment and a long gestation period. The aerospace industry did not get support from the private sector. Aero modelling was encouraged but no supportive arm was extended to the engine.

But active involvement by academicians, institutions, research and development establishments and the Government has been conspicuous by its absence for aerospace programmes. We still look at modern aircraft with sophisticated engines in awe.
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The metallurgy part focus is mainly on high strength materials and super alloys along with composites which are used in the engines of a fighter jet. They have to withstand high temperature ranges while maintaining speed, maneuverability, gravitational impact, etc etc. Modern fighter aircraft are expected to feature an option in the engine which allows to operate in either high speed mode or look for better efficiency to increase loitering time with loads. On top the concept of super cruise has made the requirements tougher..


Some efforts are made like

1. HAL and BHEL JV plan.
The idea is set up a joint venture to design, develop and manufacture gas turbines for a variety of civilian and military applications. It is also planned to involve private industrial enterprises with experience in developing engines in the venture. Both HAL and BHEL have expertise in licence producing gas turbines of a variety of specifications and fusing their expertise with the experience that DRDO has acquired while developing Kaveri engine could be a veritable “force multiplier” to move ahead with the development of advanced aero engine technologies.

2. HAL along with the British engine maker Rolls-Royce has set up a joint venture facility named International Aerospace Manufacturing Private Ltd (IAMPL) at Bangalore for the production of civil aircraft engines and subsystems. HAL has been building Rolls-Royce engines under licence for India’s Jaguar fighter and the Hawk Advanced jet trainer fleet. Rolls-Royce whose engines propel Airbus and Boeing civilian jets has been sourcing ring forgings from HAL for its civilian engines since 2003. “The state of the art facility in Bangalore will produce components for the technologically advanced Trent family of civil aero engines as well as for a number of marine and energy gas turbines.

3. HAL and Honeywell have signed an agreement under which HAL will manufacture Honeywell TPE 331 engine components and kits. The TPE-331 engine family represents the most fuel efficient and reliable turboprop engine and will be the first aerospace engine to be manufactured in India for the world wide market. TPE 331 powers the Dornier transport aircraft being manufactured by HAL. The engine division of HAL undertakes repair and overhaul of various aero engines operated by defence forces, coast guard, civilian enterprises and government organisations. The engine division of HAL is also involved in the development and certification of Kaveri engine.

4. HAL has received responses from eight international engine manufacturers for its Request for Proposal (RFP) for the power plant that would go into the proposed Regional Transport Aircraft (RTA) to be built by a consortium led by HAL and NAL. For, the design of the aircraft can be frozen only after finalizing the engine that would be fuel efficient and affordable to maintain. The vendor finally chosen to supply the engine will be required to transfer the critical technologies to India to help the country create a manufacturing base for aero engines. However advanced countries do not easily part with the critical engine technology. Only a large and alluring commercial deal could nudge them to transfer the technology.

5. According to K.Tamilamani, Director General (Aeronautical Systems) of DRDO, there is a need for the creation of an autonomous body for design, development, testing and production of aero engines of varying specifications. The amalgamation of the expertise and competence available in both the public and private sectors of the country should be fused to create a high tech platform for developing aero engines. Indeed resources available in private companies such as Kirloskar, L&T and Godrej could be harnessed for giving a quickening impetus to build a vibrant technological base for realizing aero engines of varying thrust ranges.

(Points sourced from Strategic Affairs
 
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