Does Israel Really Have a Thermonuclear Weapon?

[~Phoenix~]

So when Iran is gonna test its nuclear arsenal on Tel Aviv,Dear Iranians?

 

[The SC]

Teller, the father of the American nuclear bomb, had lectured in Usrael for 7 times about nuclear technologies and nuclear devices in the 50s and 60s, that means that Usrael might have the technology, but nuclear bombs they have some guarantee from the US that they will be provided with some if need be, just like in 1973 (Operation Nickel Grass/Samson option) when US F-4 phantoms were seen in Usrael carrying nuclear bombs, photos of them do exist!

 

[~Phoenix~]

Teller, the father of the American nuclear bomb, had lectured in Usrael for 7 times about nuclear technologies and nuclear devices in the 50s and 60s, that means that Usrael might have the technology, but nuclear bombs they have some guarantee from the US that they will be provided with some if need be, just like in 1973 (Operation Nickel Grass/Samson option) when US F-4 phantoms were seen in Usrael carrying nuclear bombs, photos of them do exist!

Really? Post them!

 

[The SC]

Really? Post them!

I've seen them before on some site, it is true.. I will try to find the pics again.. you can also read about operation "nickel grass" in Wikipedia, it'll give you the scoop of things!

 

[~Phoenix~]

I've seen them before on some site, it is true.. I will try to find the pics again.. you can also read about operation "nickel grass" in Wikipedia, it'll give you the scoop of things!

Okay,I will...

 

[~Phoenix~]

Israel surely has all the capabilities...be it conventional or non conventional weapons and systems. Also Israeli weapons and other systems quality is that of world quality. For eg: Phalcon awacs, Green pine, Derby-ER, Python-5, MF-STAR, Barak-8 etc.

 

[pts_m_h_2016]

As for Islamic Terrorism/suicide bombings. Lol So according to you, there was no suicide bombings/terrorism prior to 2003?lool
You definitely need to read abit more mon pote.
That's a funny statement you just made. Moreover, who provoked the Taliban/Al Qaeda into punching suicide attacks on WTC in new York? Was it because of U.S invasion of Iraq as well? Loool I'm sure the Muslim Chechen terrorists who stiked and fought Russia several times killing hundreds/thousands of Russians citizens waa also because Russia invaded Iraq. Lol
Any power with the capabilities will have retaliated just like your very own country did when ISIS striked France , France also retaliated as much as it could against ISIS in Syria and Iraq . As far as a country has the capabilities and influence necessary they will strike to protect their interests or when under threat/attacked. It's normal dude.

1. Exactly how many terrorist attacks took place before 2003 and after 2003 around the world? Yes, give me stats from around the world. The numbers are clear.

2. Chechen issue was Russian internal issue. US/UK and Western world backed Saudis and Pakistanis in Afghanistan to fight Soviets.

3. ISIS only came to being in Iraq and Syria only after 2003 illegal invasion not before they happened.

Cut your long and irrelevant rambling about exports trade and what not short. China's trade with the US is vigorous but they are at loggerheads. It changes nothing.

There is more to security and international politics than trade.

lol sorry but your retarded. I have no other words for. Surrender monkey french talking to me about history. Turkic empires rolled over nearly every single state at the time was known. Most of the generals in the Mongol army was Turk and the Golden Horde with Berke Khan. Just some of our ancestors list below that absolutely p..... all over europe lol. Gosh you had to call a holy alliance against Ottomans need I say more?


And talking about begging hahah. This is coming from a french? Sorry cant discuss this with a surrender monkey french. Your french king begged us for protection.

LOL at this low IQ middle eastern forum retards.

Turks are BEGGARS in EU.

Your entire nation, of 80 million, BEGS to be a part of European Union for 60 years or who knows how many years.

Your entire nation of 80 million BEGS to be protected from Soviet Union to NATO.

Your entire nation of 80 million BEGGED France to save your Ottoman ancestors from Russian pillage.

Your entire nation of 80 million was formed by a secular dictator Kemal who copied French laicite to the letter.

Your surrender monkey nation lost every bit of territory it held in Europe, in Greece, in Balkans, and everywhere, and all of those regions are the worst regions in Europe.


Let's get this fact straight:

French troops went to today's Turkey and occupied it.

NEVER IN HISTORY, ever, a single Turkish military marched on French soil. Ever.

Turkey can not even conquer Syria next to it TODAY.

France annexed it in the last century and handed it to the minority Allawites.

French language, culture, and legislation impacts all five continents.

Turkish language, or culture if it has any, is not even followed by its nearest neighbours the Arabs or Iranians none of whom listed Turkish as an official language of their country.

It would be more meaningful exchanging words with a Somalian illiterate than an uncivilized Turk who does not know where he belongs and has to BEG Europe and US for civilization and protection against Russia.

 

[Henry ME 95]

1. You are an Iranian pretending to be German

2. I know you third world Iranians, Turks, Pakistanis have a fetish for everything German, although history says, Germany lost both world wars and was occupied by France at the end of World War II. France also defeated Germany numerous times, as it did the same to UK, other European powers and Asian, African and American powers.

3. Israel's military industry is far and away the more sophisticated example than Pakistan's.

You know that Israel is one of biggest weapons supplier to Pakistan's enemy India?

And you know that Pakistan has not even once got India to surrender unconditionally but India has done the reverse? That is despite Hindus poor warrior martial spirit, innovative spirit, economic experience and technological progress.

3. Military industry - Are you joking again? Maybe its your third world syndrome rearing its ugly head and no more.

Let's see - what exactly did Israel defence industry design and/or produce?

Merkava Main battle tanks I-IV
Trophy APS (neither Pakistan nor Iran has any equivalent)
LAHAT ATGM
SPIKE ATGM
Namer APC
Achzarit APC
NLOS missile
LORA missile
Barak 1
Barak 8
Arrow 2
Arrow 3
David's Sling
Iron Dome
Python
Derby
Popeye
Popeye Turbo
Jericho
LITENING targeting POD
SPICE kit
Sky Shield
and all the variants of the above, and more, from Rafael Advanced Defense Systems, Elbit, Elta, Soltam, IAI, IMI, Tadiran and the list goes on.

Not for no reason can Israel sell weapons in bulk to Pakistan's greater enemy that has all Pakistanis scared and frightened.

Not for no reason can Israel have all the American aligned Arab puppet states dance to its tune. Not for no reason can the Jews control the US, Europe and Russia's policy making or substantially influence them to its favour.


4. Israel is scared of no Middle eastern Sand farm, rest assured. They were supposedly 'scared shitless' of Iraq yet they went ahead and attacked Iraqi reactor whereas Iraq did nothing to counter the attack. Israel went ahead and bombed as far away as Tunisia, beat all the Arab militaries to pulp single handedly and to this day have all the Muslims of the world under siege by manipulating the American military machine to its own end, whereas you dumb lot can not design and build simple 60 year old deterrence that even the most isolated tiny despotic regimes like North Korea by all accounts has either mastered or is about to master within the next dozen or so months.

http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_northkorea/758560.html






There we disagree.

You should never have been colonized.

You were colonized because you were weak, and you are still colonized under neocolonial framework, and that is also because you are weak. You will remain weak even if China supplants the US as world's superpower.

Arabs, Kurds, Turks, Berbers have little brains comparing with Jews. This fact needs to be understood and appreciated. Then all the difficulties faced by your brothers of faith will appear a logical outcome of nature's law.

When did Egypt defeat Israel in 6 hours? ?

LOL.

You are not probably living on Earth or ....nvm. no point discussing facts with him who thinks Egypt defeated Israel in 6 hours.

1. You are an Iranian pretending to be German

2. I know you third world Iranians, Turks, Pakistanis have a fetish for everything German, although history says, Germany lost both world wars and was occupied by France at the end of World War II. France also defeated Germany numerous times, as it did the same to UK, other European powers and Asian, African and American powers.

3. Israel's military industry is far and away the more sophisticated example than Pakistan's.

You know that Israel is one of biggest weapons supplier to Pakistan's enemy India?

And you know that Pakistan has not even once got India to surrender unconditionally but India has done the reverse? That is despite Hindus poor warrior martial spirit, innovative spirit, economic experience and technological progress.

3. Military industry - Are you joking again? Maybe its your third world syndrome rearing its ugly head and no more.

Let's see - what exactly did Israel defence industry design and/or produce?

Merkava Main battle tanks I-IV
Trophy APS (neither Pakistan nor Iran has any equivalent)
LAHAT ATGM
SPIKE ATGM
Namer APC
Achzarit APC
NLOS missile
LORA missile
Barak 1
Barak 8
Arrow 2
Arrow 3
David's Sling
Iron Dome
Python
Derby
Popeye
Popeye Turbo
Jericho
LITENING targeting POD
SPICE kit
Sky Shield
and all the variants of the above, and more, from Rafael Advanced Defense Systems, Elbit, Elta, Soltam, IAI, IMI, Tadiran and the list goes on.

Not for no reason can Israel sell weapons in bulk to Pakistan's greater enemy that has all Pakistanis scared and frightened.

Not for no reason can Israel have all the American aligned Arab puppet states dance to its tune. Not for no reason can the Jews control the US, Europe and Russia's policy making or substantially influence them to its favour.


4. Israel is scared of no Middle eastern Sand farm, rest assured. They were supposedly 'scared shitless' of Iraq yet they went ahead and attacked Iraqi reactor whereas Iraq did nothing to counter the attack. Israel went ahead and bombed as far away as Tunisia, beat all the Arab militaries to pulp single handedly and to this day have all the Muslims of the world under siege by manipulating the American military machine to its own end, whereas you dumb lot can not design and build simple 60 year old deterrence that even the most isolated tiny despotic regimes like North Korea by all accounts has either mastered or is about to master within the next dozen or so months.

http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_northkorea/758560.html






There we disagree.

You should never have been colonized.

You were colonized because you were weak, and you are still colonized under neocolonial framework, and that is also because you are weak. You will remain weak even if China supplants the US as world's superpower.

Arabs, Kurds, Turks, Berbers have little brains comparing with Jews. This fact needs to be understood and appreciated. Then all the difficulties faced by your brothers of faith will appear a logical outcome of nature's law.

When did Egypt defeat Israel in 6 hours? ?

LOL.

You are not probably living on Earth or ....nvm. no point discussing facts with him who thinks Egypt defeated Israel in 6 hours.

you arent very bright are you. let me guess "everyone that disagrees with me is an iranian/****/turki muzzie subhuman" to you.
2. the USA and Soviet russia won the war. i agree. you however did nothing for most of it but beg the UK and US to invade Normandy. you made no large contribution and you were conquered by us within a month. France used to be a great power but from the end of the Franco-Prussian war til present day you were basically the sick man of europe (turkey isnt really in europe so i feel it applies better to france). you defeated the unified german nation when? WW1 perhaps? or perhaps you want to bring up Napoleon? we have beat you more then you have us.
3. Pakistan has it's own fighter which Israel never could make turns out they can't do much without ToT. also the paks dont have to be worried about israel because their missiles can easily hit israel. israel's cant even reach tehran let alone karachi or islamabad.
Merkava is proven to be crap. first versions did poorly against export versions of the T-72 and their newer versions met their match against the kornet. (western MBTs can survive the kornet well as proven in Iraq but merkavas melt like warm butter when they get hit)
the trophy is a flawed system just like every other APS. it boosts the likelihood of survival but it isn't impossible to overcome nor is this an Israeli invention. in particular i imagine the sensors are easy to smash and render useless.
spike isn't bad. ill give them that, i like the spike missiles.
Iron dome is proven to have a limited interception rate and is expensive to use. also it is only for intercepting rockets and artillery shells.
barak 8 was made with indian aid.
namer is workable but it is based of the merkava. thus i have reservation on it.
jericho pistol is a CZ-75 copy. (or are you talking about their missiles)
i could keep going all day but then this reply would be too long to read.
4. Iraq didnt hit them back solely because they were at war with Iran at the time. starting a war with israel and beating them conventionally in 1981 wouldn't be overwhelming hard (more so if syria let Iraq use it's soil to launch an invasion) but Iran was much harder a nut to crack. Iran ironically saved Israel by going to war with Iraq.
5. can't say i heard of the jews attacking Tunisia. also who is this "we" you keep talking about? are you still on about me "being an iranian in disguise"? Iran could have had nuclear weapons much earlier and also aided north korean scientists multiple times in the nuclear and missile tech fields. the thing is they really don't want to split the atom that badly.
if they wanted to it would have been done. likewise Iran and turkey both rank above Israel in net scientific output.http://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php
israel was given the nuclear deterrent by the US. it was the US that helped their program and it was because of my country they have nuclear subs (and that was a mistake on our part considering most of the israelis have no love for us).

1. Exactly how many terrorist attacks took place before 2003 and after 2003 around the world? Yes, give me stats from around the world. The numbers are clear.

2. Chechen issue was Russian internal issue. US/UK and Western world backed Saudis and Pakistanis in Afghanistan to fight Soviets.

3. ISIS only came to being in Iraq and Syria only after 2003 illegal invasion not before they happened.

Cut your long and irrelevant rambling about exports trade and what not short. China's trade with the US is vigorous but they are at loggerheads. It changes nothing.

There is more to security and international politics than trade.




LOL at this low IQ middle eastern forum retards.

Turks are BEGGARS in EU.

Your entire nation, of 80 million, BEGS to be a part of European Union for 60 years or who knows how many years.

Your entire nation of 80 million BEGS to be protected from Soviet Union to NATO.

Your entire nation of 80 million BEGGED France to save your Ottoman ancestors from Russian pillage.

Your entire nation of 80 million was formed by a secular dictator Kemal who copied French laicite to the letter.

Your surrender monkey nation lost every bit of territory it held in Europe, in Greece, in Balkans, and everywhere, and all of those regions are the worst regions in Europe.


Let's get this fact straight:

French troops went to today's Turkey and occupied it.

NEVER IN HISTORY, ever, a single Turkish military marched on French soil. Ever.

Turkey can not even conquer Syria next to it TODAY.

France annexed it in the last century and handed it to the minority Allawites.

French language, culture, and legislation impacts all five continents.

Turkish language, or culture if it has any, is not even followed by its nearest neighbours the Arabs or Iranians none of whom listed Turkish as an official language of their country.

It would be more meaningful exchanging words with a Somalian illiterate than an uncivilized Turk who does not know where he belongs and has to BEG Europe and US for civilization and protection against Russia.

for your information NATO needed the turks just as much as the turks need them. good luck threatening the Caucasus oil fields without the turks (ask hilter).
you really have an over-inflated confidence. Britain and Sardinia also came to the aid of the Turks against imperial Russia. France hardly rode in on a white horse to save the day. in fact France was proven a paper tiger after it imperialistically declared war on Prussia to try & conquer the east bank of the rhein (and lost badly)
turkey lost all of it's european territory. oh what is that west of istanbul and on the borders with greece and bulgaria

i also find the "surrender monkey" name funny because it was invented by Americans to describe WW2 era france. "cheese eating surrender monkey"
the turks didn't march there but they did kick you out of Anatolia and the Berbers did march through parts of france. likewise they are still in france playing call of duty live and crazy taxi on Bastille day. (which you deserve, considering what your dirty revolutionaries did to king louis XVI).
you are a rude butthurt nationalist and you make french people look very bad (like the stereotypes on american TV). my advice to you is to stop humiliating yourself and your country

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Your entire nation of 80 million BEGGED

Times are changing, being part of the EU is seen as a liability. Turkey be better staying out of the EU, the resentment against it has shown it'll be kept on the side in every EU event.

As for your ramblings of French domination, it's easy to occupy a nation that has surrendered. Given the mutiny of German Sailors, it is well established the war would have ended as a truce.

Turks fought on 3 fronts, France barely held the lines against Germany. You're welcome to look up the Young Turkish nation's rebellion against the occupying Allies.

 

[Baybars Han]

1. Exactly how many terrorist attacks took place before 2003 and after 2003 around the world? Yes, give me stats from around the world. The numbers are clear.

2. Chechen issue was Russian internal issue. US/UK and Western world backed Saudis and Pakistanis in Afghanistan to fight Soviets.

3. ISIS only came to being in Iraq and Syria only after 2003 illegal invasion not before they happened.

Cut your long and irrelevant rambling about exports trade and what not short. China's trade with the US is vigorous but they are at loggerheads. It changes nothing.

There is more to security and international politics than trade.




LOL at this low IQ middle eastern forum retards.

Turks are BEGGARS in EU.

Your entire nation, of 80 million, BEGS to be a part of European Union for 60 years or who knows how many years.

Your entire nation of 80 million BEGS to be protected from Soviet Union to NATO.

Your entire nation of 80 million BEGGED France to save your Ottoman ancestors from Russian pillage.

Your entire nation of 80 million was formed by a secular dictator Kemal who copied French laicite to the letter.

Your surrender monkey nation lost every bit of territory it held in Europe, in Greece, in Balkans, and everywhere, and all of those regions are the worst regions in Europe.


Let's get this fact straight:

French troops went to today's Turkey and occupied it.

NEVER IN HISTORY, ever, a single Turkish military marched on French soil. Ever.

Turkey can not even conquer Syria next to it TODAY.

France annexed it in the last century and handed it to the minority Allawites.

French language, culture, and legislation impacts all five continents.

Turkish language, or culture if it has any, is not even followed by its nearest neighbours the Arabs or Iranians none of whom listed Turkish as an official language of their country.

It would be more meaningful exchanging words with a Somalian illiterate than an uncivilized Turk who does not know where he belongs and has to BEG Europe and US for civilization and protection against Russia.

Seriously, I can see your desperation, cheese eating surrender monkey lol.

Yesterday I was watching history (mapping) of Europe for the last 2000 years and guess what. We p..... All over how many European countries how many times and guess what, Ottoman Empire and Roman Empire is the longest lasting in the video and so many Turkish empires stomped on you cheese eating surrender monkeys heads. Your great Roman Empire was finished by us, when Alp Arslan came into Anatolian the byzantine King was kissing his feet after battle of manzikert. It's easy beating weak African countries with no weapons lol and conquering unknown territories, we came into your heartland, not too far off France. Your French King begged us for help and we saved him, English Queens begged us for help many times. Our troops was in France many times when your King was begging us for help, and our navy went there. We invaded Italy and could of stayed there if it wasn't for a pasha.

You really think it difficult going and taking over Senegal, Zimbabwe etc lol when they had no weapons and native Americans. Do you even know the story of croissant you surrender monkey. It was made in Austria after you lot was pissing your pants of fear. That's why it's the shape of a crescent. At the most powerful time in its history, British, French, Russian, Armenian insiders and other revolts and we still pissed over you lot in the gallipoli etc and that was probably the weakest time of the empire and your strongest when you had so many African slaves around the world, yet you surrendered to the Germans with all that power.

What honour les people are you lol and your talking to me. Your power is only in the last 300 years or so, yet in your power you cry for help from others lol. You can see our marks and traces from all of Asia except Japan etc to Africa and Europe from the gates of Vienna to the horse riding huns that raped the Romans for thousands of years.

We ain't begging anyone for anything.. Turkish language is spoken by more than 150 million people from the balkans to Asia. If we really wanted we could of force so many nations to speak our language, but that wasn't our uncivilised ways. Your power is only against the defencles Algerians and you surrender monkey.

 

[DavidSling]

you arent very bright are you. let me guess "everyone that disagrees with me is an iranian/****/turki muzzie subhuman" to you.
2. the USA and Soviet russia won the war. i agree. you however did nothing for most of it but beg the UK and US to invade Normandy. you made no large contribution and you were conquered by us within a month. France used to be a great power but from the end of the Franco-Prussian war til present day you were basically the sick man of europe (turkey isnt really in europe so i feel it applies better to france). you defeated the unified german nation when? WW1 perhaps? or perhaps you want to bring up Napoleon? we have beat you more then you have us.
3. Pakistan has it's own fighter which Israel never could make turns out they cant do much without ToT. also the paks dont have to be worried about israel because their missiles can easily hit israel. israel's cant even reach tehran let alone karachi or islamabad.
Merkava is proven to be crap. first versions did poorly against export versions of the T-72 and their newer versions met their match against the kornet. (western MBTs can survive the kornet well as proven in Iraq but merkavas melt like warm butter when they get hit)
the trophy is a flawed system just like every other APS. it boosts the likelihood of survival but it isn't impossible to overcome nor is this an Israeli invention. in particular i imagine the sensors are easy to smash and render useless.
spike isn't bad. ill give them that, i like the spike missiles.
Iron dome is proven to have a limited interception rate and is expensive to use. also it is only for intercepting rockets and artillery shells.
barak 8 was made with indian aid.
namer is workable but it is based of the merkava. thus i have reservation on it.
jericho pistol is a CZ-75 copy. (or are you talking about their missiles)
i could keep going all day but then this reply would be too long to read.
4. Iraq didnt hit them back solely because they were at war with Iran at the time. starting a war with israel and beating them conventionally in 1981 wouldn't be overwhelming hard (more so if syria let Iraq use it's soil to launch an invasion) but Iran was much harder a nut to crack. Iran ironically saved Israel by going to war with Iraq.
5. can't say i heard of the jews attacking Tunisia. also who is this "we" you keep talking about? are you still on about me "being an iranian in disguise"? Iran could have had nuclear weapons much earlier and also aided north korean scientists multiple times in the nuclear and missile tech fields. the thing is they really don't want to split the atom that badly.
if they wanted to it would have been done. likewise Iran and turkey both rank above Israel in net scientific output.http://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php
israel was given the nuclear deterrent by the US. it was the US that helped their program and it was because of my country they have nuclear subs (and that was a mistake on our part considering most of the israelis have no love for us).



for your information NATO needed the turks just as much as the turks need them. good luck threatening the Caucasus oil fields without the turks (ask hilter).
you really have an over-inflated confidence. Britain and Sardinia also came to the aid of the Turks against imperial Russia. France hardly rode in on a white horse to save the day. in fact France was proven a paper tiger after it imperialistically declared war on Prussia to try & conquer the east bank of the rhein (and lost badly)
turkey lost all of it's european territory. oh what is that west of istanbul and on the borders with greece and bulgaria

i also find the "surrender monkey" name funny because it was invented by Americans to describe WW2 era france. "cheese eating surrender monkey"
the turks didn't march there but they did kick you out of Anatolia and the Berbers did march through parts of france. likewise they are still in france playing call of duty live and crazy taxi on Bastille day. (which you deserve, considering what your dirty revolutionaries did to king louis XVI).
you are a rude butthurt nationalist and you make french people look very bad (like the stereotypes on american TV). my advice to you is to stop humiliating yourself and your country

Are you stupid?
Israel fighter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Lavi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Kfir
Merkava did poorly against Kornets? ru serious? 1 merkava 4 was destroied against Kornet atgm and that's poorly? okie
Israel reached america in the last exercise using it's refuel jets, it has popeye cruise missiles for 1k km and more, it has jericho ballistic missiles with 5k km to 11.5k km. it has multilayer ballistic missiles to shoot incoming missiles down.
Trophy intercepted rate is first of it's kind, and intercepted dozen of incoming rockets and missiles in the last operation.
India aid to Barak 8? LOL
anyway, keeping trollin, cause your arguements ain't based on reality but on ur poor dreams

 

[Henry ME 95]

Are you stupid?
Israel fighter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Lavi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Kfir
Merkava did poorly against Kornets? ru serious? 1 merkava 4 was destroied against Kornet atgm and that's poorly? okie
Israel reached america in the last exercise using it's refuel jets, it has popeye cruise missiles for 1k km and more, it has jericho ballistic missiles with 5k km to 11.5k km. it has multilayer ballistic missiles to shoot incoming missiles down.
Trophy intercepted rate is first of it's kind, and intercepted dozen of incoming rockets and missiles in the last operation.
India aid to Barak 8? LOL
anyway, keeping trolling, cause your arguments aren't based on reality but on your poor dreams

3rd gen fighters are easy. fourth gen not so much. Iran & south Africa have even produced 3rd gen fighters (like the saegheh & cheetah ) also kfir was basically just a retrofitted locally made mirage. not an independent design.
also where is the Lavi i don't see it in the israeli air force..... it was canceled because the US didn't give ToT.
"one merkava IV was destroyed" is this defence.pk or is this debbka, everyone knows you lost more then 1 merkava IV, except for fox news apparently.
India did help make the barak 8 http://indianexpress.com/article/wo...ests-barak-8-missile-co-developed-with-india/ that is well documented.
Trophy intercepted a bunch of older ATGMs and maybe 1 or 2 modern ones. it was tested against a bunch of ill trained terrorists that can barely aim their Kalashnikovs (let alone a sagger missile). if it intercepted hezbollah's rockets that would be much more impressive. it doesn't change the fact it could be rendered useless if the sensors are destroyed on the tank. in addition with the fact people have already developed countermeasures against APSs like the RPG-32 (i also wonder if it could be hacked, that is a theory but one that i have been running through my head).
and i'm not trolling, you are the one trolling here with your propaganda nonsense. we all know Israelis love to boast and shout into the wind. a bunch of empty talk from a colonial possession.

 

[DavidSling]

3rd gen fighters are easy. fourth gen not so much. Iran & south Africa have even produced 3rd gen fighters (like the saegheh & cheetah ) also kfir was basically just a retrofitted locally made mirage. not an independent design.
also where is the Lavi i don't see it in the israeli air force..... it was canceled because the US didn't give ToT.
"one merkava IV was destroyed" is this defence.pk or is this debbka, everyone knows you lost more then 1 merkava IV, except for fox news apparently.
India did help make the barak 8 http://indianexpress.com/article/wo...ests-barak-8-missile-co-developed-with-india/ that is well documented.
Trophy intercepted a bunch of older ATGMs and maybe 1 or 2 modern ones. it was tested against a bunch of ill trained terrorists that can barely aim their Kalashnikovs (let alone a sagger missile). if it intercepted hezbollah's rockets that would be much more impressive. it doesn't change the fact it could be rendered useless if the sensors are destroyed on the tank. in addition with the fact people have already developed countermeasures against APSs like the RPG-32 (i also wonder if it could be hacked, that is a theory but one that i have been running through my head).
and i'm not trolling, you are the one trolling here with your propaganda nonsense. we all know Israelis love to boast and shout into the wind. a bunch of empty talk from a colonial possession.

LOL, Your so called Plane is all exported but design, no skill needed really.
Lavi was called due to american pressure to buy their planes instead.
One merkava 4 was destroyed and it's the official statement of the IDF, you can believe your hizbullah friend if u'd like.
Old atgm? Kornet, Metis and Rpg 29.
You're the one who dislike the facts and go to the propaganda and the lies path, which doesn't suprise me.
Israel is the 7 largest arms exporter, where Pakistan is no where to be found.
keep with your trolls, facts tell other story

 

[Henry ME 95]

LOL, Your so called Plane is all exported but design, no skill needed really.
Lavi was called due to american pressure to buy their planes instead.
One merkava 4 was destroyed and it's the official statement of the IDF, you can believe your hizbullah friend if u'd like.
Old atgm? Kornet, Metis and Rpg 29.
You're the one who dislike the facts and go to the propaganda and the lies path, which doesn't suprise me.
Israel is the 7 largest arms exporter, where Pakistan is no where to be found.
keep with your trolls, facts tell other story

Which plane exactly is my so called plane?
as if a group of child killers have never lied before . i don't blame you for trying to hide it but you guys do a very poor job with your propaganda at times.
the old ATGMs they mostly used were saggers, RPG-7s that one improvised RPG of theirs, konkurs etc. they didn't (and still don't) have many RPG-29s, kornets or metis.
i'm not the one that listens to Israeli newscasts which receive poor grades from reporters without borders for press freedom.
and yes they have more weapons exports than pakistan. most of their exports are their copied weapons though. galil, jericho pistols. etc the only original weapon you export regularly would be spike missiles.
well uzi also but it is an outdated gun now.

 

[mike2000 is back]

1. Exactly how many terrorist attacks took place before 2003 and after 2003 around the world? Yes, give me stats from around the world. The numbers are clear.

2. Chechen issue was Russian internal issue. US/UK and Western world backed Saudis and Pakistanis in Afghanistan to fight Soviets.

3. ISIS only came to being in Iraq and Syria only after 2003 illegal invasion not before they happened.

Cut your long and irrelevant rambling about exports trade and what not short. China's trade with the US is vigorous but they are at loggerheads. It changes nothing.

There is more to security and international politics than trade.

How can you even compare US trade situation with China and France's deep ties with iraq and it's dictator.old boyyyyyy........tu me fais rire mon pote. lol
For one France's relationship with Saddam were very deep from military to economic ties as I mentioned earlier. Iraq was a crucial ally for France in a region dominated by 'Anglo-American' influence. Reason France was against the war. U.S is no ally with China.

Secondly it's funny you mention morality and France while branding U S and U.K as immoral powers fighting illegal wars. Lool Holy France indeed.LMAO
Too bad I know your Countries dirty business in Africa and French speaking countries maybe better than even you. THE DAY YOU VACATE YOUR COLONIES AND STOP BASING YOUR TROOPS ON THEIR SOIL FOR YOUR INTERESTS THEN YOU CAN TALK ABOUT MORALITY. LOL
You are one of the last country on earth who can talk about morality dude, doesn't exist in geopolitics anyway. So I wont go into too much details about this for your own sake. .
As for Soviet war in Afghanistan. France was part of the Western bloc/NATO who opposed communism in every corner of the globe including in Afghanistan Mr Holy.lol.

I already told you I know your country's foreign policy and history very very well mate.
It's all about interests anyway, so no hard feelings.