DF: 15 Israeli Soldiers Committed Suicide in 2015

[war&peace]

It doesn't work that way, sir.

...Nadia, according to her own words, studied social work a the Hebrew University in Jerusalem for two and a half years. She didn't finish: she took a break, and then "studied music for five years at the Jerusalem Academy of Music and Dance, where I got a degree in music, specializing in voice." She tells me her music teacher, a German-Jewish woman, was "my mother" but that after graduation from school she is no longer in touch with her.

Why?

"She is an occupier"

Nadia's capacity to throw away a woman she had called "mother" for five years at the very moment she didn't need her anymore is striking....Nadia, who lives in Jerusalem, is an Israeli citizen and carries an Israeli passport, tells me that "life under occupation" is awfully bad.and that the Jews "almost killed my daughter" [because] she had to feed her baby in the car [on a hot summer's day].

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- excerpt from Catch the Jew by Tuvia Tenenbom, Kindle edition, locs 1121- 1136.

You see, when you give unreason license crazy unjustifiable hatred is sure to follow; you can no longer put faith in what you may believe to be the natural goodness and fairness of people, as you attempted to invoke here.

Sir you think using an excerpt from a novel you can convince us...Either you are too simple or we are fools. And we are not fools.

 

[Solomon2]

Sir you think using an excerpt from a novel you can convince us..

It's not a novel. You have the right to your own opinions but not your own facts. Otherwise you are peddling delusions.

.Either you are too simple or we are fools. And we are not fools.

Sorry, but the mods do not want me to respond to such statements. So if you have an issue you'll have to take it up with them.

 

[Khafee]

Sir you think using an excerpt from a novel you can convince us...Either you are too simple or we are fools. And we are not fools.

He is not simple either. He is a trained Zion Brigade card carrying member, who will spew nonsense till his last breath.

@WebMaster Why aren't official mouth pieces of the Zion Brigade banned on this forum? Who spew nothing but nonsense all day long.

 

[Nefarious]

Well they're not all desensitised and indiscriminate; men,women and stone wielding child killers.

They're human and some are affected more by what they see/do then others. Rather then waste their lives like this they should work against this culture of indiscriminate hate and consequent violence against non Jews, including the innocent and vulnerable.

 

[war&peace]

He is not simple either. He is a trained Zion Brigade card carrying member, who will spew nonsense till his last breath.

@WebMaster Why aren't official mouth pieces of the Zion Brigade banned on this forum? Who spew nothing but nonsense all day long.

I am more bothered every now and then when some of our fellows create a thread in support Pakistan-Zionist state relations while forgetting all democratic norms, sentiment of majority of Pakistanis, disregarding all the principles, facts and perpetration of the jews against Palestinian Muslims. Portraying the issue as an Arab-Israel problem and treating both equally rather painting the most cruel state in positive light and hammas and palestinian freedom fighters as terrorists.

 

[P4K1ST4N]

He is not simple either. He is a trained Zion Brigade card carrying member, who will spew nonsense till his last breath.

@WebMaster Why aren't official mouth pieces of the Zion Brigade banned on this forum? Who spew nothing but nonsense all day long.

@Khafee, they know how to circumvent & obfuscate when faced with truth. They have organized crime syndicate to spread lies. Just look at how Geller of ADL is fluttering herself from university to university trying to brainwash American youth. Then there is Spencer distributing hate literature within US institutions against Muslims.

And then this is what happens next, a Catholic girl rips apart Geller infront of everyone in university.

Bro, watch this one @war&peace @salarsikander

@Khafee, this video further proves your point.

Extremely horrific and how much cruel a person can be...just look at these jews each and every one of them is cheering the murder of innocent children...they are mass murderers..they are real terrorist and scum bags of the world...but a day will come when each stone and tree will say, the jew is hiding behind me, come and kill him..

Brother, we (Muslims) have known it for centuries about this time and its treachery, it all ends at "Lud".

 

[Solomon2]

I am more bothered every now and then when some of our fellows create a thread in support Pakistan-Zionist state relations while forgetting all democratic norms, sentiment of majority of Pakistanis -

The "sentiment of the majority" are mob norms. Acknowledging the equal rights of minorities are democratic norms. Only then does the majority gain the right to change its mind, because new ideas always start out winning a minority before they are held by the majority.

, disregarding all the principles, facts and perpetration of the jews against Palestinian Muslims.

How do you know whether or not how the Jews in Israel treat Arab isn't proper and just and tempered with great mercy? While the perpetration of evils by Palestinian Arabs against Jews is never ever discussed?

Pakistanis, of course, aren't allowed to promote Israel, under threat of death, either physical or career/academic. But you live in America. You can have the truth at your fingertips and are free to promote it. So what's your excuse for slandering Israel as "the most cruel state", especially while next-door Syria is suffering the cruelest of civil wars and the other surrounding Arab states suffer from having far fewer civil liberties than Israel offers its citizens?

 

[salarsikander]

@Khafee, they know how to circumvent & obfuscate when faced with truth. They have organized crime syndicate to spread lies. Just look at how Geller of ADL is fluttering herself from university to university trying to brainwash American youth. Then there is Spencer distributing hate literature within US institutions against Muslims.

And then this is what happens next, a Catholic girl rips apart Geller infront of everyone in university.

Bro, watch this one @war&peace @salarsikander

@Khafee, this video further proves your point.

Brother, we (Muslims) have known it for centuries about this time and its treachery, it all ends at "Lud".

@Solomon2 why would israel need o pay some students to project itself as good? unless there was a need to. Are they trying to hard the reality ?

 

[Solomon2]

@Solomon2 why would israel need o pay some students to project itself -

Does it? I have no idea.

In a perfect world, slanders would be countered and prosecuted, rather than enforced by state and society. If you tell me how I can sue Pakistanis for anti-Zionist slander in Pakistan, perhaps I will change my focus from commenting to legal action.

 

[salarsikander]

Does it? I have no idea.

In a perfect world, slanders would be countered and prosecuted, rather than enforced by state and society. If you tell me how I can sue Pakistanis for anti-Zionist slander in Pakistan, perhaps I will change my focus from commenting to legal action.

But mentioning the atrocities are not slanders, or are they if you want to dismiss the reality

 

[Solomon2]

But mentioning the atrocities are not slanders, or are they if you want to dismiss the reality

Labeling actions as "atrocities" is a judgment call that Pakistanis are not equipped to make because they are not allowed to refute such a charge against Israel. If you want to change that you have to fight for greater freedom of expression in Pakistan.

 

[EasyNow]

The question isn't why Israeli soldiers are killing themselves, it's why Pakistani soldiers are not.

Soldiers everywhere kill people, often undeserving people. It is normal for the shock or guilt to lead to depression.

This thread should be one for introspection, have our armies become so brutal they feel no guilt?

 

[salarsikander]

Labeling actions as "atrocities" is a judgment call that Pakistanis are not equipped to make because they are not allowed to refute such a charge against Israel. If you want to change that you have to fight for greater freedom of expression in Pakistan.

So does that mean you're oblivious of the realities that whole world is mentioning ?
I have presented you with quite fine articles. Why would a flotilla be arranged to break the siege ? was there such a need ?

 

[Solomon2]

So does that mean you're oblivious of the realities that whole world is mentioning ?

You have to be specific.

I have presented you with quite fine articles. Why would a flotilla be arranged to break the siege ? was there such a need ?

There are threads at PDF dealing with the Mavi Marmara affair, you can seek answers in those.

 

[salarsikander]

You have to be specific.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...iers-speak-out-brutality-palestine-occupation

There are threads at PDF dealing with the Mavi Marmara affair, you can seek answers in those.

So according to you Gaza is not under siege ? and an entire world is lying ? then it begs the question why would anyone ehre on earth be hell bent on twisting the reality ? or is the typical victim game israel is playing