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Commander: Iran Building Exclusive Anti-Armored Missile Launcher

Yeah Iran definitely copies, but theirs no shame in copying what the leading arms manufacturers do. You gotta study & copy from the best.



CGI? Is the video publicly available?
No problem with copy... everyone does it at some point... But not acknowledging it...is the problem...
he said "Iran doesn't copy..."
It was only a reminder...nothing more nothing less and no ill meaning behind it.
 
Iran doesn't copy...
-Toophan...TOW copy
-Farj225...M4 copy
-S.556... CQ type cpy
-Saeghe 1/2 ... M47 Dragon copy
-Yasir uav...Scaneagle copy
-Saegheh uav...RQ 170 copy...the one downed by Israel yesterday...
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No problem with copy... everyone does it at some point... But not acknowledging it...is the problem... he said" Iran doesn't copy..."
It was only a reminder...nothing ore nothing less and no ill meaning behind it.
Please pissoff bud. Thank you.
 
No problem with copy... everyone does it at some point... But not acknowledging it...is the problem...
he said "Iran doesn't copy..."
It was only a reminder...nothing more nothing less and no ill meaning behind it.
Indeed, and you know what. The point of copying is to push Iran further to close the gap as much as possible. Iran could either start building their own rifles with 1970 technology or they can study 2008 designs and jump straight ahead. If you had to reinvent the wheel everytime you want to building something they countries would go no where. So I for one am pleased Iran is copying from the best as perhaps one day, Iran can grow and build their own as we have seen in a number of sectors. But we have to start somewhere.
 
Indeed, and you know what. The point of copying is to push Iran further to close the gap as much as possible. Iran could either start building their own rifles with 1970 technology or they can study 2008 designs and jump straight ahead. If you had to reinvent the wheel everytime you want to building something they countries would go no where. So I for one am pleased Iran is copying from the best as perhaps one day, Iran can grow and build their own as we have seen in a number of sectors. But we have to start somewhere.
As i said, no problem with copying..;even more when it's well done..;like the Toophan exemple or other uav's...
My post was based only of his "saying" where he made it clear that Iran invented it all alone from her own head etc...
Anyway. GL
 
Learn to read, I said I'm against spending money on SDB research not on weapons in general.

We dont have a powerful airforce, we are never going to have a powerful airforce, and even if we did have a competent airforce it would still be no match for other countries.

SDB is a weapon system that can be ground launched or Air Lunched (Watch the Video) & they have ground lunched versions with up to 70km range

also the Air Lunched versions are light (~250lb) so aside from fighters they are a great platform for increasing the survivability of jet powered UCAV's

As for current fleet of Iranian fighters it is a great platform to increase the survivability of current Iranian fighters that are technologically inferior allowing them to fire on targets while staying out of range of Air Defense systems
 
SDB is a weapon system that can be ground launched or Air Lunched (Watch the Video) & they have ground lunched versions with up to 70km range

also the Air Lunched versions are light (~250lb) so aside from fighters they are a great platform for increasing the survivability of jet powered UCAV's

As for current fleet of Iranian fighters it is a great platform to increase the survivability of current Iranian fighters that are technologically inferior allowing them to fire on targets while staying out of range of Air Defense systems

If it can be ground launched it fits our asymmetric warfare style and if it can be launched from drones then thats even better. Launching multiple SDBs instead of one single missile also decreases the chance of getting intercepted.
 
If it can be ground launched it fits our asymmetric warfare style and if it can be launched from drones then thats even better. Launching multiple SDBs instead of one single missile also decreases the chance of getting intercepted.

How is that NOT valuable? If your troops rather having to call in airstrikes from a base that's 200km away can instead make up for Iran's lack of fighters by calling in strike from a mobile command center 50km away using ground launched SDB how is that not valuable? And it would take up to an hour for a MALE UAV to travel that distance from a base 200km away

You talk about Asymmetric warfare well one of the vital parts of Hezbullahs 2006 war with Israel was the ability to launch rockets and fact is out of the 1000's rockets launched vast majority of them landed know where
With a ground launched SDB system you don't need to launch that many and they are far harder to intercept because they fly at a low altitude and don't fly in a fixed trajectory

Also, incase of an Invasion Iran can't launch a bunch of unguided rockets into an Iranian village that has been invaded but precision guided SDB that can target invading vehicles that's a different story

As for Iranian fighter jet Iran needs to make up for it's lack of advanced fighters with weapon systems that help increase survivability and because Iran has a limited number of fighters the fighters we do have should NOT be getting close enough to a target to use unguided bombs so Iran needs to build weapon systems for it's F-5's, F-4, J-7,... that addresses the survivability of it's current fleet and that is something that is within Iran's capability to do using domestic technology so any money you spend on developing such technology will get recycled back to your economy

As for UAV's that's where most of the value is because if you can arm a UAV like the Simorgh with 4 Iranian SDB then 10 UAV's can hit 40 Aircraft bunkers which is something 10 Iranian Missiles could NEVER accomplish

Iran needs to develop weapon systems so it's infantry would never have to use ATGM's
 
How is that NOT valuable? If your troops rather having to call in airstrikes from a base that's 200km away can instead make up for Iran's lack of fighters by calling in strike from a mobile command center 50km away using ground launched SDB how is that not valuable? And it would take up to an hour for a MALE UAV to travel that distance from a base 200km away

You talk about Asymmetric warfare well one of the vital parts of Hezbullahs 2006 war with Israel was the ability to launch rockets and fact is out of the 1000's rockets launched vast majority of them landed know where
With a ground launched SDB system you don't need to launch that many and they are far harder to intercept because they fly at a low altitude and don't fly in a fixed trajectory

Also, incase of an Invasion Iran can't launch a bunch of unguided rockets into an Iranian village that has been invaded but precision guided SDB that can target invading vehicles that's a different story

As for Iranian fighter jet Iran needs to make up for it's lack of advanced fighters with weapon systems that help increase survivability and because Iran has a limited number of fighters the fighters we do have should NOT be getting close enough to a target to use unguided bombs so Iran needs to build weapon systems for it's F-5's, F-4, J-7,... that addresses the survivability of it's current fleet and that is something that is within Iran's capability to do using domestic technology so any money you spend on developing such technology will get recycled back to your economy

As for UAV's that's where most of the value is because if you can arm a UAV like the Simorgh with 4 Iranian SDB then 10 UAV's can hit 40 Aircraft bunkers which is something 10 Iranian Missiles could NEVER accomplish

Iran needs to develop weapon systems so it's infantry would never have to use ATGM's

I said its valuable if its ground launched or launched from drones. I am against investing in our airforce because:

1. We cant afford airplanes, we need at least 500 more last gen interceptors and 500 attack aircraft and 500 choppers.

2. Maintaining the aircrafts are expensive and most likely we will be sanctioned again and have to look at our new billion dollar investments rust because of lack of parts.

3. Nobody is going to invade us, and if they did they will smoke our airforce anyway.

Dont get me wrong. I would love us to have a powerful airforce but its just not going to happen.

We should invest in ATGMS SAMS, SSM, Manpads, Humvees, Tanks, drones, etc.
 
I said its valuable if its ground launched or launched from drones. I am against investing in our airforce because:

1. We cant afford airplanes, we need at least 500 more last gen interceptors and 500 attack aircraft and 500 choppers.

2. Maintaining the aircrafts are expensive and most likely we will be sanctioned again and have to look at our new billion dollar investments rust because of lack of parts.

3. Nobody is going to invade us, and if they did they will smoke our airforce anyway.

Dont get me wrong. I would love us to have a powerful airforce but its just not going to happen.

We should invest in ATGMS SAMS, SSM, Manpads, Humvees, Tanks, drones, etc.

Same nonsense delusions Iran's leadership was deluded enough into believing right after the Revolution! NO one is ever going to invade us! We don't need fighters bla bla bla
And what happened? Those very same fighters and helicopters that we supposedly didn't need ended up being our main line of defense and were the ONLY reason we were able to stop Saddam's invasion of Iran.

Iran's Air Force sunk 80% of Saddam's Navy which allowed Iran's Oil to flow and IRIAF destroyed Saddam's Air Force 2 times over and forced Saddam to move most of it's Air Force to the furthest point in Iraq and those very same Helo's prevented an Armored Division over 5 times the size of Iran's from invading Iran because if those armored divisions had air cover Saddam could have easily invaded large areas of Iran!

Iran is a country filled with various types of resources Oil, Gas, Gold, Copper,.... so anyone who is deluded enough to think NO ONE is EVER going to invade us is DELUSIONAL!!!! Especially since Iran's Population is getting Older and Older every year and invading Iran may be difficult today but in the next 20 years most of Iran's population will be over 50 years old and unless we start preparing for that day today we will be doomed!
Iranian Ah-1, F-4, F-5 & F-14's have served Iran for over 40 years & an 8 year long war so clearly they were a GREAT investment that clearly paid off and It's time to upgrade the fleet!

And building domestic fighters isn't just about the fighter! The development of a domestic Fighter brings with it the development of various other industries whos usefulness go well beyond the military industry!
And due to Iran's size and Terrain building Helicopters for military and civilian use are NOT a luxury but a necessity!

And for now aside from purchasing ~15 Air Superiority fighters every year over the next 10 years or until Iran produces it's own (no more than $2Billion USD a year) the rest of Iran's needs in terms of Air Power can be meet with domestic technology which means whatever you spend gets recycled into your own economy and advancements you make go far beyond military use.

Today 10 Fighters armed with newer versions of the SDB can takeout over 80 standard bunkers/targets from 110km away and fire on Iranian targets from outside the range of Iranian SAM's so Iran can build and buy all the SAM's it wants because without Air Superiority fighters and interceptors to intercept those fighters SAM by themselves are NOT sufficient to defend anything.


What are you going to hit with a MANPAD if they fire on you from 100km away? What use is 1million SAM's if they can't individually target and take out those SAM's from outside their range? And without air cover Tanks are nothing but easy targets for UAV's, Helo's, Fighters....

And yes ATGM's are valuable BUT Iran is already producing various versions so what is the added value of wasting money and producing yet another version? That money would be better spent producing something that gives you a capability you previously didn't have!
 
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