Chinese Air Force (PLAAF) News & Discussions

[cirr]

The following foretells of the arrival of 。。。。。。

 

[Deino]

When .... oh only when !??

 

[kungfugymnast]

The following foretells of the arrival of 。。。。。。

This is more likely just a concept. Yf23 style elevons (replacing & combining tail fins and elevators) requiring computer assist to get them to work. The design of this fighter allow only limited armaments. Air intake above fuselage, few US fighters tested such design but the airflow pressure into air intake been less than conventional below. This design is more practical for UCAV.

 

[Deino]

Honestly ... do You really think the J-20 or J-31 - even the J-10 - are simply flown by hand and that their design does not "require computer assist to get them to work" ??? Even more this is - albeit a concept only right now - a medium-sized bomber and not a fighter ... as such an intake under the wings to allow high-angle-of attack flights is not required and for stealth such a configuration is also better.

Deino

 

[kungfugymnast]

Honestly ... do You really think the J-20 or J-31 - even the J-10 - are simply flown by hand and that their design does not "require computer assist to get them to work" ??? Even more this is - albeit a concept only right now - a medium-sized bomber and not a fighter ... as such an intake under the wings to allow high-angle-of attack flights is not required and for stealth such a configuration is also better.

Deino

So far only f117 and b2 with air intake above fuselage configuration. F117 placed the air intake as front as possible to ensure adequate air flows through. B2 air intakes was placed as front for same reason. Compared to other aircrafts, the b2 and f117 depending heavily on computer to fly. Without computer, they'll instantly crashed like the b2 that crashed on runway and the f117 that crashed into red indian cemetery.

The j20, j31, j10 had fly by wire where the hydraulic controls were assisted with electric powered motor for better response. Onboard computers were there to assist the flights while most of them are still mechanical. Only j20's forward canard had more computer assist to ensure the canard angle stays stealthy position.

That stealth concept model, another comment is the wing area too small, not so ideal for heavy lift.

 

[Deino]

You might be correct, but this CG is based on that famous black model and is simply said to be a concept - maybe the loosing contender - of the so called JH-XX ... as such it is not a pure fan-art or non-sense but surely only time will tell ...

 

[cirr]

This is more likely just a concept. Yf23 style elevons (replacing & combining tail fins and elevators) requiring computer assist to get them to work. The design of this fighter allow only limited armaments. Air intake above fuselage, few US fighters tested such design but the airflow pressure into air intake been less than conventional below. This design is more practical for UCAV.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion。

It is nonetheless only an opinion。

 

[kungfugymnast]

You are certainly entitled to your opinion。

It is nonetheless only an opinion。

It's not opinion but facts from several engineers that build such fighters design. Without tail fins, rudder capability reduced, without elevator, pitch capability reduced. Unless you have tech to fit directional thrusters to do the job for pitch and rudder.

You might be correct, but this CG is based on that famous black model and is simply said to be a concept - maybe the loosing contender - of the so called JH-XX ... as such it is not a pure fan-art or non-sense but surely only time will tell ...

The first china stealth dream to build J-XX equivalent to US f22 was from chengdu and Shenyang where it has been materialized with j20 and j31 today.

 

[Akasa]

The following foretells of the arrival of 。。。。。。

Is this a real project or simply a pigment of someone's imagination?

If it is indeed an actual project, when can we expect the prototype to be rolled out?

 

[cirr]

Is this a real project or simply a pigment of someone's imagination?

If it is indeed an actual project, when can we expect the prototype to be rolled out?

Patience, patience

In the meantime, a frontal view of the J-10C

 

[j20blackdragon]

It was rumored that 601/SAC are working on a twin-engine medium supersonic stealth bomber design (H-18?) but this has yet to be confirmed.

Chinese Military Aviation: Attack Aircraft I

 

[BoQ77]

It was rumored that 601/SAC are working on a twin-engine medium supersonic stealth bomber design (H-18?) but this has yet to be confirmed.

Chinese Military Aviation: Attack Aircraft I

There're too many rumors. I don't think we should put many more of them here.
Appreciate if you all could put a trusted source of news.

 

[Deino]

Patience, patience

In the meantime, a frontal view of the J-10C

Are You sure ?? It could also simply be a J-10B ... so why ? Especially since I know that image since some longer time.

 

[cirr]

Z-11WB maiden flight

 

[kungfugymnast]

Is this a real project or simply a pigment of someone's imagination?

If it is indeed an actual project, when can we expect the prototype to be rolled out?

This is just concept scale model. During j-xx stealth aircraft program, there were several scale concept models being proposed, only 2 was materialized. This is just another rejected design due to too impractical.

Look at the chinese stealth UCAV in response to US X47 ucav, Chinese engineers too knew the air intake must be placed near frontal edge if it's above fuselage to ensure adequate air flows into combustion.

The probable third jxx is the STOVL j18 to counter f35b. China would focus on building world class amphibious assault carrier if j18 vertical take off and landing system works. If Americans could hire Russian engineers to design STOVL system for f35b, Chinese too can hire the same Russian team to design for the j18. J18 is a larger STOVL fighter with twin engines with 2 side bays as the center is reserved for STOVL system.

Can someone post j18 photos and its stovl concept here pls?