I was just thinking whether china has any fighter in service which can compete USA in today's war scenario or not..
Then i quoted China vs India, coz i wasn't expecting china to compete USA in today's war.. So at least i wanted to see what China can offer against India..
The thing is, my question is still there, though china is producing lots of things including J-XX, radars, missles which will be in service in next decade or so, but do china has any Plane in service right now, which can dominate Indian Air Force if the war starts today..?
I am not a millitary pro, but to answer your question according to what I've read:
I think China's frontline fihgters got to be J-10 A/B and J-11B for the moment. No other choices.
On a 1-to-1 basis, I do not think there's a clearcut advantage of J-10B, or more propriately J-11B against Su-MKI, and vice versus. They are more or less at the same level technologically. There're many other factors more important in a real fight such as tactics, pilot experiecnes, etc.
I wasn't talking at all about number game. China ofc has bigger number in all fields of military hardware.. i was talking is there any fighter in chinese line up which can simply dominate Indian air force and from which indian AF can feel fear..? i think there isn't any such plane right now.
I am afraid that this question itself is bit ambiguous.
See? One probabaly can argue that no a sinlge advanced 4th gen fighter could hold absolute advantage over the other: say F-15 eagle vs Rafeal vs EF vs MKI vs F16 block 60 , even vs J-11B or J-10B.
There is only 1 fighter could dominate any air force, that is F-22A.
So can a current Chinese fighter dominant India AF? No.
Although you don't want to know numerical game,
that is an inseperate part of the equation, like it or not.
With that factor in mind, can China AF dominant Indian one? Depending on some other factors, the answer is likely to be yes.
... Perhaps we don't know what's the current status of J-XX, are there any other 5th Gen projects going on..? what other planes are exactly going through the process of up-gradations and what kind of up-gradations they are..
So in short, i can smell something lot more bigger from china in near future then its looking today..
2 clear and absolutely reliable sources/indicators can completely clear your doubt on the existence of JXX project:
1.
China has not participated in Russia's 5th project for a clear reason. Since China can not use variants of J-10 or J-11 to fight USA's 5 th gen F-22/F-35 or Russia's T-50, China must have beeing working on the equivalent herself
because China's national defence is at stake (this is no joke) , since T-50 will be stationed at North border of CHina while F-22A is already stationed at Okinawa - East China Sea.
2. Unlike Indian counterparts, it's widely acknowldged from the past experiences that PLA senior leaders have almost never openly admited anything if it's not there already; or 100% sure it'll be there very soon(very rarely) . The risk for a PLA leader to act otherwise is extremely high , it's not court martial but severe, they aren't fools.
Under this context, in a shocking rare occation, the
deputy chief of PLAAF openly admitted JXX project and "the maiden flight will be very soon", " will be inducted within the next 8-10 years"
in China's official national TV channel LIVE interview recently.
Even though he backtracked a bit what he said to make it sound ambiguous days after, it's preditable though as he must have been deemed as imprudent by higher ranking leaders for talking something that hasn't been successfuly completely yet - against PLA doctrine.
Nonetheless, that speech was not a joke since he wasn't drunk in a live TV interview, and most importantly his position/reputation/honor in the army was on the stake. The clip is in youtube. For anyone who understands Chinese, the Deputy Chief of PLAAF clearly meant what he said.
Furthermore, one can almost tell what China is up to by just looking at how many J10A/B / J-11B China has inducted up to now. One intersting obervation is that there are totally about 300 or so. It intuitively begs the question that how could this pathetic numbers of 4th gen be sufficient, both quantitatively and qualitatively, to defend China's long borders in a long run? It ought to have been more, much more, about 500 at least logically speaking...? And China will sit on its *** calmly waiting for others to induct 5th gen around her borders, even India will get PAKFA, a dumbed down version of T-50...?
The ONLY answer reasonablely lies in the
fact of the incoming 5th gen : when or how good it would be compared with F-22A is another question, but it's almost certain it would come with two J-XX variants (a pretty logical step given such a huge R&D investment- some sources say > $ 35 billion), with less top line model 5th gen, plus mass-produced less expansive ones (still 5th gen).
Only this seems to complete the full picture, doesn't it?