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China will not risk economic ties with India for Pakistan.

Provide Chinese source to prove your point otherwise STFU

Care to read it first before replying quicky..

eminent Pakistani author and watcher of the region, Ahmed Rashid, says in his new book.

Now email your fellow pakistani and ask him the reasons in detail or else STFU.:wave:
 
China will not break its ties with India as it is the growing market for its products (highest number of middle class and youth population). Also China is not going to break its ties with Pakistan as it is China's gateway to middle-east, a safe transit route for its oil supply and to the resource rich Afghanistan ex. Ayanak mine (copper) etc. Instead of ending the article with pointing out the inability of pakistan govt. the author should have stressed on the role and need of China to play in improving the ties of Indo-Pak and need of joint task force to combat terrorism in China, Pakistan and India.

China is playing a double game here. It wants India because, it knows that in near future the western markets will be saturated and India is a great opportunity for it to keep its economy in momentum. India is predicted to grow substantially for at least next 40 years.

China certainly does not want Pakistan for its 'strategic location'. It wants Pakistan as a hedge against India's growing influence and to have a dominant position in Asian politics. Pakistan 'strategic location' is more important to India as we don't have direct connection to energy rich CAR and Iran
 
China is playing a double game here. It wants India because, it knows that in near future the western markets will be saturated and India is a great opportunity for it to keep its economy in momentum. India is predicted to grow substantially for at least next 40 years.

China certainly does not want Pakistan for its 'strategic location'. It wants Pakistan as a hedge against India's growing influence and to have a dominant position in Asian politics. Pakistan 'strategic location' is more important to India as we don't have direct connection to energy rich CAR and Iran

Pakistan's location is not of much use to China.

Why?

Because most of Chinese population is situtated in Eastern China.

The Gwadar port and Karakoram highway can only be of use to population in western China, which isn't much anyways. Which means, lower consumption of goods.

Besides, the treacherous mountainous terrain and whether of the Himalayas will render maintaining that highway a very difficult and costly proposition.

This single highway, that too in Eastern China, which is largely unpopulated, is not going to be of significant import to Chinese economy.
 
ok by indians logic here when we beat the sh@t out of india america will just stand there and watch cos they dont want to risk their economic ties with china for india, just like what we did to inida in 1962 may be?

Oh! Looks like you also missed the point here tough nut!

Its by pakistani logic and by a pakistani author..:azn:

eminent Pakistani author and watcher of the region, Ahmed Rashid, says in his new book.
 
ok by indians logic here when we beat the sh@t out of india america will just stand there and watch cos they dont want to risk their economic ties with china for india, just like what we did to inida in 1962 may be?

Please beat the **** out of us...so that we can learn who will help us out...:woot:
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Pakistan's location is not of much use to China.

Why?

Because most of Chinese population is situtated in Eastern China.

The Gwadar port and Karakoram highway can only be of use to population in western China, which isn't much anyways. Which means, lower consumption of goods.

Besides, the treacherous mountainous terrain and whether of the Himalayas will render maintaining that highway a very difficult and costly proposition.

This single highway, that too in Eastern China, which is largely unpopulated, is not going to be of significant import to Chinese economy.
Oil from Middle east to gwadar, then pakistan to china is WAY safer than from arabian sea to indian ocean to south china sea to china, as India, US ,Vietnam, Phillipines, any country can disrupt it anytime if they want to as it will be near to their coast and PLN will have difficulty to protect this supply line.
 
$75 Billion trade has a big price tag and Chinese know the value of this tag particularly when their export sector is facing huge crisis. They are not this much fool to lose this trade for the sake of Pakistan.
 
ok by indians logic here when we beat the sh@t out of india america will just stand there and watch cos they dont want to risk their economic ties with china for india, just like what we did to inida in 1962 may be?

We don't really ask US to meddle in our bilateral issues. Now stop trolling and get back on topic.
 
Pakistan's location is not of much use to China.

Why?

Because most of Chinese population is situtated in Eastern China.

The Gwadar port and Karakoram highway can only be of use to population in western China, which isn't much anyways. Which means, lower consumption of goods.

Besides, the treacherous mountainous terrain and whether of the Himalayas will render maintaining that highway a very difficult and costly proposition.

This single highway, that too in Eastern China, which is largely unpopulated, is not going to be of significant import to Chinese economy.

captain sir though i feel your most points are valid but the fact near me is that China wants to be FUTURE super power but since India is also quite ambetious it is in chin's interests to keep india busy with OTHER things ...so comes in Pakistan withits very strategic loction...i think China will play a double game here...
 
Oil from Middle east to gwadar, then pakistan to china is WAY safer than from arabian sea to indian ocean to south china sea to china, as India, US ,Veitnam, Phillipines, any country can disrupt it anytime if they want to as it will be near to their coast and PLN will have difficulty to protect this supply line.

Do me a favor.

Try calculating the number of trucks required to pass through Karakoram highway to meet even 10% of China's current oil usage.

Then tell me if the figures don't make your eyes wide open.

Besides, the proposed karakoram highway will anyways be susceptible to Indian artillery in times of conflict.

I don't think the Chinese will be foolish enough to lay the entire lifeline of their country open to Indian Artillery regiments.

Tell me, how difficult would it be to bomb and destroy this highway in times of conflict?
 
Oil from Middle east to gwadar, then pakistan to china is WAY safer than from arabian sea to indian ocean to south china sea to china, as India, US ,Veitnam, Phillipines, any country can disrupt it anytime if they want to as it will be near to their coast and PLN will have difficulty to protect this supply line.

You think? Oil pipelines and other transit modes would pass from middle east, through Iran and through Balochistan. And they don't like Chinese corporations as is the case with numerous innocent Chinese workers and engineers kidnapped and killed. Pakistan has assured help and security to Chinese employees of big investing firms but have failed to live upto it.

So unless there's a conflict from PLA's side, IOR will be much safer than through Pakistan. What if some BLA outfits could simply blow up pipelines? It would be an economic nightmare. We ourselves bypassed the IPI pipeline for somewhat similar reasons.
 
It will be far easier for India to disrupt Karakorum highway than it will be to block China's oil supplies in the sea.
 

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