Wow, your all so called experts in the field.
I'm surprised that you people think that India is rag tag military. Try explaining that to the Pakistani military or the PLA who backed down in 1987 when the Indians had equal amount of firepower. The first rule to a war is, don't fight one if you can't win. Thats where the PLA stands with India. Why do you think India occupies "Southern Tibet"? 90,000 PLA Troops get the drop on 10 000 Indian soldiers and border guards and you claim victory despite having to withdraw. Explain that from you Chinese textbooks.
As far as China's naval ambitions. They are certainly aggressive but it depends before whom. If it was a Japanese dystroyer, PLAN would back off. In fact they don't mess with the Japanese navy, reason? They can't afford to. The Japanese navy is superior in terms of training and equipment. They have more ASW assets and one of the largest diesel sub fleet in Asia. Unfortunatly, the Vietnamese navy has none of these advantages over PLAN. The are more for coastal defence which makes sense given the size of the country. On the bright side, Russia does not consider China as a friend or an ally. They may not be the Soviet Union anymore but Russia doesn't like the growing PLA, its a concern for them as well, which is why Russia doesn't sell anymore subs to China. Or any advanced offensive systems. The Al-31 is one example. The Russians will not sell the utilities to build AL-31 engines to China partly because the want to keep the Chinese aerospace industry out of Russian markets. With out a good engine, the J-10 will not be exported and the PLAAF will have rely on Russia for spares for their Flanker engines. This of course is another topic.
Are the PLAN capable of taking on the Indian ocean? Not yet.
Training wise the Indian navy superior, they have operated more weapons systems and have great naval tradition and war-time experience. Pakistan can attest to that.
Equipment wise, the Indian navy is very different from the PLAN. Despite PLAN's "Aegis" type missile destroyers they are far from.
The HQ-10 is based on tot technologies acquired from the S-300 system and the HQ-16 from VLS Shtyl. They aren't the same systems, but they certianly have similar performance. These systems give the PLAN air defense. Not really an Aegis system like the USN. They also have subsonic cruise missiles as well as couple of supersonic. The PLAN seem to bend more towards a defense role, but this is entirely due to the lack of air defense due to the fact they have no Carrier at the moment.
The Indian navy ships are usually armed with subsonic and supersonic cruisemissiles, as well as Barak air defence systems. Not to mention its sole aircraft carrier. The Viraat has more fire power than Indian Navy's western fleet!
If the 2 navies every encounter each other in times of war, it would most likily be the Indian Navy that finds the PLAN since they have the only Carrier at the moment. After firing off missiles, the Chinese have 80 percent chance to intercept the Brahmos. While the Indian navy has more than 90 percent chance to intercept anything the PLAN have and the mojority of the missiles the PLAN are subsonic.
If you want to compare ships let me know. Its not the numbers, that count, its the quality and Indian ships are much better armed than PLAN ships and will be for the next decade.
if india ever mess with china again, china will pummel india into oblivion just like 1962.
the chinese police forces could beat the indian army, indian army is poorly equipped.
india has always been a rag tag military, it still cannot beat pakistan.
the south china sea fleet of the PLAN could wipe out the entire indian military.
india dont have the street smart to beat china which was shown in 1962.
chinese are just smarter than indian, china operates with sun tzu in mind, india operates with the heart.
the J-10 is being exported to our ally pakistan.
J-10 and J-11 can beat that indian-russian made piece of crap Su-30MKI.
china will always humiliate india in a military fight, 1962 is the norm.
india can NEVER defeat china EVER!
india dont even have a defence industry.
india thought they had better weapons than china and china absolutely butt r@ped india in 1962.
china taught the inferior indians a lesson not to mess with a power like china.
china squashed india like a bug and the indian goo oozed out.
india is still living with that humiliation from 1962.
the chinese lead over india in military and everything is much much larger than in 1962.
as i said before, india is not a challenge to the might of the PLA.
india should first try to beat pakistan, because pakistan and india are militarily equal.
