China plans chequers to checkmate India .

[AerospaceEngineer]

a3 a5 d5 d4 Nf6 c4 .......... pawns got pawned and rooks are exchanged and its a stalemate.

Dont take this thread too seriously man.

You are better than other indian trolls!

Thank you.

 

[pmukherjee]

You are right that PLA is vastly superior to India. Russia is a friend and ally. It is not the Soviet Union. China is much more likely to go to war against Japan than against Russia. But you fail to realize that our industrial capacity is why PLA is vastly superior to India.

We have two indigenous carriers under construction now. To be launched in 2012 and 2015. We have advanced destroyers Type 052D (equivalent to Arleigh Burke) under construction now. China will have 3 fully-modern carrier battle groups by 2015.

India on the other hand is completely dependent on foreign arms. You have only WW2 era ships with 1980's era weapons. You have lots of grand plans to build 5, 6 or even 10 carriers. But let's get real...... you would be lucky to get the Gorshkov by 2015 along with a few more Shivalik-class frigate.

Setting aside US for the moment, China can easily enter Indian Ocean and defeat IN with its battlegroups by end of this decade.

No you cant, not by 2016. Your battle groups operating 5000 KMs from your mainland cannot defeat the IN which will be supported by the IAF from at least seven air bases. If all three battle groups come to contest the IN, you will have a max 9-10 squadrons of air wing fighters taking off from ski jump ramps, they will have to contest with 5 Indian carrier borne squadrons plus at least 13 - 15 shore based fighter squadrons operating with inflight refuelling and AWACS cover. Your air wings will be decimated and the Chinese AF will be in no position to help. After the air cover is gone, your BGs will be dead meat.

That however is not the point, my point was that primary aim of the Chinese to go for these carriers was not India, it was USA. I dont understand how they can leave the China seas to the Americans and come down to fight the IN when China does not have any threat from India.

 

[china hyperpower]

indian military is no match for china's military.

besides, chinese leaders are smarter than indian leaders.

so not only does china have superior military technology, but china also has superior street smarts.

 

[sreekimpact]

indian military is no match for china's military.

besides, chinese leaders are smarter than indian leaders.

so not only does china have superior military technology, but china also has superior street smarts.

ok!! agreed !! you are the best ....now go and get some sleep lady!!

 

[OrionHunter]

India Navy is no match of China's Navy or even the South Sea Fleet along. So instead of worrying something beyond indian's ability, everyone will be better off if IN focuses more on anti-pirate missions.

You have a habit of shooting from the hip, as it seems you have little or no knowledge of military affairs. For our information:

The Indian Navy is the world’s eighth largest navy with a fleet of 145 vessels consisting of missile-capable warships, advanced submarines, the latest naval aircraft and an aircraft carrier in its inventory. It is experienced both in combat and rescue operations during wartime and peace as seen from its wars with Pakistan in 1971, the December 2004 Tsunami, etc.

On the other hand, China’s PLA Navy with its 284 fleet is quantitatively larger but primitive in actual experience and training as compared to the Indian Navy. China has no aircraft carriers in its naval fleet at present.

And then, just having an aircraft carrier is of no use to man or beast. There needs to be a full compliment of guided missile cruisers, a destroyer squadron, attack submarines, combined ammunition, oiler and supply ship (AOE/AOR), usually Supply-class (T-AOE) which provide logistic support, integrated satellite recon and so on for a carrier strike group to be fully ops.

You're comparing apples with oranges. Quality vs quantity.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

You have a habit of shooting from the hip, as it seems you have little or no knowledge of military affairs. For our information:

The Indian Navy is the world’s eighth largest navy with a fleet of 145 vessels consisting of missile-capable warships, advanced submarines, the latest naval aircraft and an aircraft carrier in its inventory. It is experienced both in combat and rescue operations during wartime and peace as seen from its wars with Pakistan in 1971, the December 2004 Tsunami, etc.

On the other hand, China’s PLA Navy with its 284 fleet is quantitatively larger but primitive in actual experience and training as compared to the Indian Navy. China has no aircraft carriers in its naval fleet at present.

And then, just having an aircraft carrier is of no use to man or beast. There needs to be a full compliment of guided missile cruisers, a destroyer squadron, attack submarines, combined ammunition, oiler and supply ship (AOE/AOR), usually Supply-class (T-AOE) which provide logistic support, integrated satellite recon and so on for a carrier strike group to be fully ops.

You're comparing apples with oranges. Quality vs quantity.

We do not even consider your grandma carrier because it is not even considering as a true carrier.

 

[golmaal]

I think the issue here is that Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangledesh and Myamnar want the Chinese to dominante the Indian ocean or at least co-dominate it.

Yeah that is why Myanmar recently kicked your back... and what Pak to do with Indian ocean??

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We do not even consider your grandma carrier is not even considering as a true carrier.

Yea we are shivering with your converted floating Casino carrier..give a break

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indian military is no match for china's military.

besides, chinese leaders are smarter than indian leaders.

so not only does china have superior military technology, but china also has superior street smarts.

We know you are very smart .. habit of spying the Western & Russian technologies and pirate the same and called Chinese military machines..huh

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Yea we are shivering with your converted floating Casino carrier..give a break

When it was a empty hull, it was called as the floating casino, and now it is a training carrier.

So it is still a mile better than your grandma carrier.

 

[rcrmj]

Yeah that is why Myanmar recently kicked your back... and what Pak to do with Indian ocean??

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Yea we are shivering with your converted floating Casino carrier..give a break

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We know you are very smart .. habit of spying the Western & Russian technologies and pirate the same and called Chinese military machines..huh

easy excuse for your inability to do what china can achieve``spying is common amonst powers, Russia, USA, europ and China spying their ar$off each other``but spying requires high intelligence, maybe thats the reason there isnt famous Indian spys yet

 

[STEELMAN]

thats the reason there isnt famous Indian spys yet

Dear if spys become famous than its of no use.

 

[Huan]

You have a habit of shooting from the hip, as it seems you have little or no knowledge of military affairs. For our information:

The Indian Navy is the world’s eighth largest navy with a fleet of 145 vessels consisting of missile-capable warships, advanced submarines, the latest naval aircraft and an aircraft carrier in its inventory. It is experienced both in combat and rescue operations during wartime and peace as seen from its wars with Pakistan in 1971, the December 2004 Tsunami, etc.

On the other hand, China’s PLA Navy with its 284 fleet is quantitatively larger but primitive in actual experience and training as compared to the Indian Navy. China has no aircraft carriers in its naval fleet at present.

And then, just having an aircraft carrier is of no use to man or beast. There needs to be a full compliment of guided missile cruisers, a destroyer squadron, attack submarines, combined ammunition, oiler and supply ship (AOE/AOR), usually Supply-class (T-AOE) which provide logistic support, integrated satellite recon and so on for a carrier strike group to be fully ops.

You're comparing apples with oranges. Quality vs quantity.

Indian quality? Are you kidding me?!

 

[pzkilo]

Message to chinese..

plz try to solve south china sea correctly then make a drive into indian ocean.This is ours and we r dominant there.Try indian navy anytime there.

Oh, Isn't USN dominanting there？

 

[ramu]

India Navy is no match of China's Navy or even the South Sea Fleet along. So instead of worrying something beyond indian's ability, everyone will be better off if IN focuses more on anti-pirate missions.

Ya right. China is the best. They are better than the best. Now if that makes you sleep well, great.

Indian quality? Are you kidding me?!

No he is telling you about what you are ignorant.

 

[ramu]

Fact :

China till date has not used its navy in a real war.

China has no experience in operating an aircraft carrier.

So before some people start talking from the hip, first address your inexperience and then talk about Indian navy.

 

[SinoChallenger]

Ask your dear friends the Vietnamese about how they fed fishes in 1974 and 1988.