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China Has Big Aircraft Carrier Dreams (As in 6 Carriers by 2035)

China is not the only country with anti ship missiles, your opponent is using it for more than half a century. With regards to UAV, current generation of Chinese UAVs were struggling against the insurgents in Libya and Yemen, forget about facing US air defence

Anti ship ballistic missile and conventional anti ship missiles are totally different animal. China is the only country in the world right now demonstrated the capability of hitting a moving target at sea with Anti ship ballistic missile thousands miles away. China can sink your warships in the Bay of Bengal from Tibet. :p:
 
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It was a part of pla restructure and reform, and they didn't reduce the combat troops.

oh thanks for the info. I did not know that. I had thought China, like everyone else, was making a fascist move and stream lining who is in the military.
 
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LHA or even the true CV are useless against China in the age of AShBMs.

Goldeneye SAT weapons (EW,DEW, laser, emp) can destroy them at launch unless they have heat-resistant ceramic tiles on the missile to defend from lasers.
 
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Goldeneye SAT weapons (EW,DEW, laser, emp) can destroy them at launch unless they have heat-resistant ceramic tiles on the missile to defend from lasers.

you do realize that is from a movie/videogame right?
 
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I don''t understand china, they made Big capital ships nearly obsolete with their hypersonic anti ship missiles and yet they're building big boy ships... while US is looking into Unmanned frigate/ destroyer sized platforms. strange, is it just a show of economic might? or do they think carriers are still not obsolete?
 
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I don''t understand china, they made Big capital ships nearly obsolete with their hypersonic anti ship missiles and yet they're building big boy ships... while US is looking into Unmanned frigate/ destroyer sized platforms. strange, is it just a show of economic might? or do they think carriers are still not obsolete?

It is related to China SCS ambition and will complement their militarized man made islands in SCS. It is both for power projection around SCS region as well as for military build up for potential future conflict with ASEAN members.
 
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you do realize that is from a movie/videogame right?

I am not the only one to refer to SAT weapons as goldeneye.

In reality, the existence of Goldeneye-like pulse weapons first became a fact ...


Spaceships when they are invented are going to be referred to as what movies call them - spaceships. Sci-fi words into real world weapons.


US had the technology to do this for decades, its classified. They are getting the defense industry to make them for the US military. Whether they already produced them is unknown. US since the fall of the soviet union has been beating up weak little kids, so no need for SAT weapons. Now with China in the crosshairs, these technologies come out of nowhere, no they had the technology for years, now the new enemy is a powerful China.
 
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It is related to China SCS ambition and will complement their militarized man made islands in SCS. It is both for power projection around SCS region as well as for military build up for potential future conflict with ASEAN members.
Real threats for China is SCS
Japan, South Korea, Singapore maybe Indonesia?
Rest everyone is weak and none needs more than subs, frigates and destroyers
 
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Real threats for China is SCS
Japan, South Korea, Singapore maybe Indonesia?
Rest everyone is weak and none needs more than subs, frigates and destroyers

None of them are threats to China, China just want to make sure countries in their region will not win any conflict if China want to do some sort of aggressive move.

Singapore is far away from SCS and their location is protected by Indonesian large sea territory in Riau Islands province that also include Natuna islands. They dont like to make a war due to small population, doesnt have strategic dept and also they dont produce food by themselves and rely water supply from Malaysia. Sabotaging the water pipe supply from Malaysia will be enough to make them very nervous.

Their military build up is meant for defense purposes, particularly intended to Indonesia. China is not a threat for them, you can see Singaporean PDF members cozy relationship with Chinese member here and their support on China expansion in SCS.

Understanding China agressivenes in SCS

Talking about China. Chinese in China mainland have been indoctrined that SCS belongs to them. Their school, history book teach them to believe like that. When they were weak and poor, they dont make any aggressive move, but when they are strong we have seen a different story.

Psychologically, their leadership will always get pressured from their public to make something in SCS. As I said they all believe that the region belongs to them. It is difficult to let go past indoctrinized, particularly to let go something that is said as yours by your elderly. Even religion like Islam get difficulty to change people previous belief that is made by their ancestors. People tend to stick to belief that was hold by the society for such a long period even though it is false according to current logic (international law).

Even Indonesia doesnt release East Timor despite we clearly invaded the region and we just release it after we face both severe economic problem due to Asian Financial Crisis and Western political pressure. For your information, Indonesian people under Soeharto regime get indoctrinized that main party in East Timor want Indonesian military to come to fight against communist Fretilin which become their rival.

This is the simple logic to understand our policy at that time. We rely the loan from IMF to escape economic crisis and the countries who provided the money want us to let go our occupation there. So better we let East Timor to have referendum and leave Indonesia rather than we have to face economic difficulty that will affect whole of our people.

If we dont face economic difficulty, we will likely to continue our colonization in that country. I bring this to give some sort of perspective that indoctrinized can effect government policy and we only can escape the indoctrinized when we face bigger threat.

Going back to present. China will not target Japan and South Korea. Both of them dont have anything to do with SCS region. China just want to make sure countries such as Philippine, Vietnam, Malaysia, and Brunei will not challenge its present in SCS. China will do that step by step. As for Indonesia, I believe China will likely to avoid any confrontation with us due to geopolitical and economic reason.
 
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I don''t understand china, they made Big capital ships nearly obsolete with their hypersonic anti ship missiles and yet they're building big boy ships... while US is looking into Unmanned frigate/ destroyer sized platforms. strange, is it just a show of economic might? or do they think carriers are still not obsolete?
US has never stopped building AC for even a day, if I am not wrong, at least two Ford class are under construction as we speak.
 
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US has never stopped building AC for even a day, if I am not wrong, at least two Ford class are under construction as we speak.
Yes true, but they plan to move on to autonomous future, aircraft carriers are set to become smaller than they’re today. The cost doesn’t make sense anymore
 
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Yes true, but they plan to move on to autonomous future, aircraft carriers are set to become smaller than they’re today. The cost doesn’t make sense anymore
It's OK, we are having all the projects too.
 
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None of them are threats to China, China just want to make sure countries in their region will not win any conflict if China want to do some sort of aggressive move.

Singapore is far away from SCS and their location is protected by Indonesian large sea territory in Riau Islands province that also include Natuna islands. They dont like to make a war due to small population, doesnt have strategic dept and also they dont produce food by themselves and rely water supply from Malaysia. Sabotaging the water pipe supply from Malaysia will be enough to make them very nervous.

Their military build up is meant for defense purposes, particularly intended to Indonesia. China is not a threat for them, you can see Singaporean PDF members cozy relationship with Chinese member here and their support on China expansion in SCS.

Understanding China agressivenes in SCS

Talking about China. Chinese in China mainland have been indoctrined that SCS belongs to them. Their school, history book teach them to believe like that. When they were weak and poor, they dont make any aggressive move, but when they are strong we have seen a different story.

Psychologically, their leadership will always get pressured from their public to make something in SCS. As I said they all believe that the region belongs to them. It is difficult to let go past indoctrinized, particularly to let go something that is said as yours by your elderly. Even religion like Islam get difficulty to change people previous belief that is made by their ancestors. People tend to stick to belief that was hold by the society for such a long period even though it is false according to current logic (international law).

Even Indonesia doesnt release East Timor despite we clearly invaded the region and we just release it after we face both severe economic problem due to Asian Financial Crisis and Western political pressure. For your information, Indonesian people under Soeharto regime get indoctrinized that main party in East Timor want Indonesian military to come to fight against communist Fretilin which become their rival.

This is the simple logic to understand our policy at that time. We rely the loan from IMF to escape economic crisis and the countries who provided the money want us to let go our occupation there. So better we let East Timor to have referendum and leave Indonesia rather than we have to face economic difficulty that will affect whole of our people.

If we dont face economic difficulty, we will likely to continue our colonization in that country. I bring this to give some sort of perspective that indoctrinized can effect government policy and we only can escape the indoctrinized when we face bigger threat.

Going back to present. China will not target Japan and South Korea. Both of them dont have anything to do with SCS region. China just want to make sure countries such as Philippine, Vietnam, Malaysia, and Brunei will not challenge its present in SCS. China will do that step by step. As for Indonesia, I believe China will likely to avoid any confrontation with us due to geopolitical and economic reason.
Explain one thing here, The Natuna Islands belong to ROC (Republic of China). But the PRC gave up.

It seems that the Indonesians were educated that the Chinese thought Indonesia was the enemy. No, please do not misunderstand. You are not qualified to be the enemy of China.
 
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If necessary, we can even fit ASBM warhead on a DF-31A and hit any warship on globe even if US warship is in pearl harbor.

Isnt US carrier used on small countries like Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan? Tell me how many bombs from your super nuclear carrier has dropped on China, Russia for last 10 years? Zero....

And what happens to your ships when the U.S. has their own ASBMs that prevents China from leaving their own ports.
Yes true, but they plan to move on to autonomous future, aircraft carriers are set to become smaller than they’re today. The cost doesn’t make sense anymore
No its just a suggestion by some people. The U.S. Navy won't stop building supercarriers.
 
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6 is a conservative estimate. 8 is more likely considering how fast they are building them.
I don''t understand china, they made Big capital ships nearly obsolete with their hypersonic anti ship missiles and yet they're building big boy ships... while US is looking into Unmanned frigate/ destroyer sized platforms. strange, is it just a show of economic might? or do they think carriers are still not obsolete?

Carriers can support amphibious landing ops. That's why carriers are useful for China.
 
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