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IAF had the initiative. They acted on their PM's orders. PAF was in reactive mode. A calibrated response was the most appropriate one & it did work in Pakistan's favor.

I must say, though, that MK does have a point when he says that in the immediate aftermath of the attack PAF had a small window within which retaliation could be well-justified. However, exploiting it would have been rash. IAF was on high alert and only when they lowered the alert level did PAF hit them hard. So, looks like PAF decided to avoid a trap and hit at the time & with the method of their own choosing.

The context of the whole thing was the upcoming Indian elections. Modi's BJP won it handily. 27 Feb was not a major issue. Had their been a wider conflict BJP leadership would have climbed the escalation ladder out of its political necessity. The end-goal of winning Indian elections would have been achieved regardless. So, in wider context, the whole skirmish was a non-issue & any escalation would have been to Pakistan's disadvantage. PAF could not have prevented anything irrespective of how many IAF jets had fallen. It merely showed its operational preparedness to thwart any other adventures in near future. The lessons learned by IAF would just be as applicable if a higher number of jets had fallen. IAF would fix the gaps, and recover morale regardless of whether 2 planes fell or 4. In context, there would be little difference.

MK does not quite get it. He does not want to get it. His thinking revolves around PAF & airwar and he ignores much else in his analysis. Should someone point at Pakistan's economy, or political dimension of conflict, he gets flustered and goes on diatribe against the poster. For this reason he is on many senior members' ignore lists. Earlier in the thread he called someone an enemy (of Pakistan) and the TT to whom it was addressed did not respond. Why? Because MK is on his ignore list and rightly so.

Pakistan can not afford open war & this is not a secret. Anyone who wishes for war is an enemy even if an unwitting one. PAF's action ensures that the enemy knows that the cost of aggression would be high, and in the end, this is what matters.

@Signalian has described his view of 5G war which, in his view, involves 5th 6th 7th... nth column within Pakistan. It is necessary to debunk this view. I am among those who want PA to stay within bounds of its professional duties and not overstep into civilian domain. I want PA to accept civilians as bosses and follow orders instead of issuing policy statements & trying to make foreign policy. This has been the path to ruin for Pakistan in many ways. This does not make me any less of a patriot; and in fact makes me more so. All the talk of 5 6 7 ... N Generation warfare is just security-centered paranoia. There are added dimensions of conflict in cyberspace, social media, & via fake news generation. We saw all that in the aftermath of 27th Feb. But the world was not fooled. Rather Indians showed themselves to be fools for bringing up all sorts of improbable babble. Description of the new dimensions of warfare as something internal to Pakistan is the exact opposite of what is needed. The state may wish to be stronger, but the nation would pay the price. Demagogues and vested interests would want to create paranoia, but that would end up making the country weaker and less safe, as security apparatus amasses more power and uses more resources. Any view that leads the nation down this rabbit hole must be countered & opposed simply on grounds of plain common sense.

Hi,

Would you ever put your enemy on an ignore list---. Possibly so---. That is a unique pakistani trait---. Pakistanis think that as they do not know about it---it does not exist---and thus will not harm them---.

Pakistan's cricket team are a great example---when the pak team captains were asked what the critics are saying---they would respond---" I don't read the news---I don't listen to the news--"---these interviews are on record---.

It should be considered a matter of shame and not of pride---specially for someone being on a defense website---.

Ignore list is like an Ostrich hiding its head in sand and thinking the issue would go away---.

This same TT who disagreed with me years ago---now uses most of his information that I posted years ago and makes it sound as his own.

The soft spoken intelligent type have ruined civilizations over the period of history---.

Now coming to yourself---what is your achievement on this forum---. Rather than taking a stand for other MEN why don't you talk about yourself and let others fend for themselves---.
 
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1.Old Islamabad Airport ( now with PAF so Airbase ) , 2. Swat Saidu Sharif Airport ( civilian till now ) , 3. Skardu Airbase are best options to defend AJK , Hazara n GB untill new FOB develops . I agree with u we should build it in Hazara ( Hazara is Close to AJK , Isb , GB ) not in AJK ( because its v close to Indian occupied Kashmir ) .

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Changing Dynamics of Air Warfare in South Asia

The Balakot strike by IAF on 26 February 2019, and PAF’s ‘Swift Retort’ a day later, can be considered watershed events in modern aerial warfare. Though the IAF strike was beset with technical snags, including failure of stand-off bombs to guide themselves to the target due to faulty terrain elevation data, it was able to deliver the ordnance – albeit, in the pine forests – from as far as 40 km away. Interception of ingressing IAF fighters threw up a new conundrum: flying in their own territory, the hostile intentions of the fighters could not be read in advance and they could not be fired at, lest Pakistan be accused of unprovoked aggression. After weapons release, the IAF aircraft rapidly turned back, and could not be chased for fear of violating international rules of engagement, as the release of bombs – and the breach of peace – was discovered only after some time.

PAF retaliated within 30 hours of the IAF strike, and hit Indian military targets with stand-off bombs, staying well within own territory. The sizeable strike package including its escorts, as well as the accompanying fighter sweep aircraft swamped the Indian air defence radar scopes, and the patrolling Su-30 aircraft were promptly vectored towards the PAF swarm. Sooner the PAF strike fighters had delivered the bombs and turned around, the F-16s and JF-17s swept the skies, with very useful support from data-linked AEWC and ground radars, as well as from own formation members. The pilots were glued to their multi-function displays streaming vital information and firing cues. It was as if a whole squadron was playing a mass video game in the skies. With excellent situational awareness, and the adversary in disarray, an F-16 fired a BVR AMRAAM (AIM-120C) at an approaching Su-30. Whether the aircraft survived with nil or minor damage, or was hit critically remains moot, but the missile coming from nowhere and exploding in the vicinity resulted in complete panic amongst the IAF aircraft. The patrolling IAF Mirage 2000s too seemed shell-shocked, and did not enter the fray; MiG-21 Bisons on ground alert had, therefore, to be scrambled. All this time PAF’s airborne and ground jammers were at work, and the IAF pilots and air defence controllers were thrown into total confusion. As one of the scrambled MiGs appeared on the radar scope of an F-16, another AMRAAM was fired, which shot the MiG out of the sky, the pilot surviving by a whisker and parachuting in to Pakistani territory.
The mission flown by the PAF was unique in many ways. The ground targets had been identified and prepared well in advance for exactly such an eventuality. The pilots had routinely practised flying in large packages, with ECM support and comprehensive situational awareness provided by AEWC aircraft. BVR missiles were used in the Indo-Pak scenario for the first time; interestingly, close combat situations did not crop up for the classic dogfighters like PAF’s F-16 and IAF’s Mirage 2000, for instance. It was manifest that BVR combat had taken precedence over close combat, if not rendering it completely obsolete. A fighter in any future conflict must, therefore have both long and short range missile firing capabilities, along with the associated sensors like radars, threat warning systems, and data links. PAF could do well by urgently replacing its legacy fighters with ‘home-grown’ JF-17s (especially the upcoming Block III version), which have all the desirable attributes at an affordable cost.
For surface attack, stand-off capabilities were demonstrated by both air forces, and the safety of attacking aircraft was clearly highlighted. Accuracy of the attacks was, however, not achieved for different reasons: the IAF suffering from faulty terrain data being fed into the bombs’ guidance system, and PAF being constrained by political considerations to prevent escalation by avoiding direct hits on military targets. In any case, the efficacy of stand-off weapon delivery was unmistakably validated, and it is certain that this is likely to be the mode of choice in any future conflict. An aircraft not having such a weapon delivery capability should be considered redundant for surface attack missions.
With IAF having the initiative, and PAF finding itself in a reactive mode, the latter’s full operational preparedness clearly saved the day. The whole operation was over within 48 hours, and deployment of strike elements of ground forces did not take place. It became amply clear that air forces offer the best and swiftest means of retribution under a nuclear overhang, as the relatively slow positioning of ground troops to their operational areas is fraught with the possibility of being stymied, due to international pressure. PAF’s tour de force will, thus, serve as a model for dealing with any future Indian military action that is punitive in nature. PAF’s preparedness must continue to be refined, as IAF is expected to iron out the hitches that dogged its operations during the failed Balakot strike.
It is to be noted that after a disastrous showing by IAF on the 26th and 27th February, the Indian government unwisely decided to even the score by deploying – conceivably, for employing – Surface-to-Surface Missiles (SSMs) against targets in Pakistan. Apparently, this measure was aimed at preventing further fighter losses at the hands of the PAF that was perceived by the IAF as being technically superior. Exercise of the rash and senseless decision to deploy SSMs could well have been misconstrued by Pakistan, and a catastrophic exchange could have followed between nuclear-armed neighbours. The Government of Pakistan, as well as its armed forces, should treat it as a textbook lesson in regional conflict escalation dynamics, and must remain cognisant of such developments in any future conflict.
With the Rubicon having been crossed after the Balakot raid, use of IAF fighters to compliment the usual artillery shelling across the Line of Control, is likely to be the new norm for intimidating Pakistan. While PAF’s response is likely to be as swift as it was on 27 February, decision-making by the politico-military leadership may be complicated by a host of prevailing factors, both internal and external. It is therefore imperative that meetings of the National Security Council and Joint Staff Headquarters are conducted regularly, and key decision-makers are kept posted about the developments so that there are no surprises. The government must be fully aware that for the PAF to react as swiftly as it did in the recent skirmish, there will be a premium on prompt and smart decision-making. It is also important to note that what starts as a single service response (by the PAF), could rapidly morph into a wider war; as such, over-dependence on the PAF could be fraught with risks, and a joint services response must continue to remain the ultimate objective of the Pakistani government to any aggression.

© KAISER TUFAIL

This article was published in Pakistan Politico, December 2019 Special Issue

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Changing Dynamics of Air Warfare in South Asia

The Balakot strike by IAF on 26 February 2019, and PAF’s ‘Swift Retort’ a day later, can be considered watershed events in modern aerial warfare. Though the IAF strike was beset with technical snags, including failure of stand-off bombs to guide themselves to the target due to faulty terrain elevation data, it was able to deliver the ordnance – albeit, in the pine forests – from as far as 40 km away. Interception of ingressing IAF fighters threw up a new conundrum: flying in their own territory, the hostile intentions of the fighters could not be read in advance and they could not be fired at, lest Pakistan be accused of unprovoked aggression. After weapons release, the IAF aircraft rapidly turned back, and could not be chased for fear of violating international rules of engagement, as the release of bombs – and the breach of peace – was discovered only after some time.

PAF retaliated within 30 hours of the IAF strike, and hit Indian military targets with stand-off bombs, staying well within own territory. The sizeable strike package including its escorts, as well as the accompanying fighter sweep aircraft swamped the Indian air defence radar scopes, and the patrolling Su-30 aircraft were promptly vectored towards the PAF swarm. Sooner the PAF strike fighters had delivered the bombs and turned around, the F-16s and JF-17s swept the skies, with very useful support from data-linked AEWC and ground radars, as well as from own formation members. The pilots were glued to their multi-function displays streaming vital information and firing cues. It was as if a whole squadron was playing a mass video game in the skies. With excellent situational awareness, and the adversary in disarray, an F-16 fired a BVR AMRAAM (AIM-120C) at an approaching Su-30. Whether the aircraft survived with nil or minor damage, or was hit critically remains moot, but the missile coming from nowhere and exploding in the vicinity resulted in complete panic amongst the IAF aircraft. The patrolling IAF Mirage 2000s too seemed shell-shocked, and did not enter the fray; MiG-21 Bisons on ground alert had, therefore, to be scrambled. All this time PAF’s airborne and ground jammers were at work, and the IAF pilots and air defence controllers were thrown into total confusion. As one of the scrambled MiGs appeared on the radar scope of an F-16, another AMRAAM was fired, which shot the MiG out of the sky, the pilot surviving by a whisker and parachuting in to Pakistani territory.
The mission flown by the PAF was unique in many ways. The ground targets had been identified and prepared well in advance for exactly such an eventuality. The pilots had routinely practised flying in large packages, with ECM support and comprehensive situational awareness provided by AEWC aircraft. BVR missiles were used in the Indo-Pak scenario for the first time; interestingly, close combat situations did not crop up for the classic dogfighters like PAF’s F-16 and IAF’s Mirage 2000, for instance. It was manifest that BVR combat had taken precedence over close combat, if not rendering it completely obsolete. A fighter in any future conflict must, therefore have both long and short range missile firing capabilities, along with the associated sensors like radars, threat warning systems, and data links. PAF could do well by urgently replacing its legacy fighters with ‘home-grown’ JF-17s (especially the upcoming Block III version), which have all the desirable attributes at an affordable cost.
For surface attack, stand-off capabilities were demonstrated by both air forces, and the safety of attacking aircraft was clearly highlighted. Accuracy of the attacks was, however, not achieved for different reasons: the IAF suffering from faulty terrain data being fed into the bombs’ guidance system, and PAF being constrained by political considerations to prevent escalation by avoiding direct hits on military targets. In any case, the efficacy of stand-off weapon delivery was unmistakably validated, and it is certain that this is likely to be the mode of choice in any future conflict. An aircraft not having such a weapon delivery capability should be considered redundant for surface attack missions.
With IAF having the initiative, and PAF finding itself in a reactive mode, the latter’s full operational preparedness clearly saved the day. The whole operation was over within 48 hours, and deployment of strike elements of ground forces did not take place. It became amply clear that air forces offer the best and swiftest means of retribution under a nuclear overhang, as the relatively slow positioning of ground troops to their operational areas is fraught with the possibility of being stymied, due to international pressure. PAF’s tour de force will, thus, serve as a model for dealing with any future Indian military action that is punitive in nature. PAF’s preparedness must continue to be refined, as IAF is expected to iron out the hitches that dogged its operations during the failed Balakot strike.
It is to be noted that after a disastrous showing by IAF on the 26th and 27th February, the Indian government unwisely decided to even the score by deploying – conceivably, for employing – Surface-to-Surface Missiles (SSMs) against targets in Pakistan. Apparently, this measure was aimed at preventing further fighter losses at the hands of the PAF that was perceived by the IAF as being technically superior. Exercise of the rash and senseless decision to deploy SSMs could well have been misconstrued by Pakistan, and a catastrophic exchange could have followed between nuclear-armed neighbours. The Government of Pakistan, as well as its armed forces, should treat it as a textbook lesson in regional conflict escalation dynamics, and must remain cognisant of such developments in any future conflict.
With the Rubicon having been crossed after the Balakot raid, use of IAF fighters to compliment the usual artillery shelling across the Line of Control, is likely to be the new norm for intimidating Pakistan. While PAF’s response is likely to be as swift as it was on 27 February, decision-making by the politico-military leadership may be complicated by a host of prevailing factors, both internal and external. It is therefore imperative that meetings of the National Security Council and Joint Staff Headquarters are conducted regularly, and key decision-makers are kept posted about the developments so that there are no surprises. The government must be fully aware that for the PAF to react as swiftly as it did in the recent skirmish, there will be a premium on prompt and smart decision-making. It is also important to note that what starts as a single service response (by the PAF), could rapidly morph into a wider war; as such, over-dependence on the PAF could be fraught with risks, and a joint services response must continue to remain the ultimate objective of the Pakistani government to any aggression.

© KAISER TUFAIL

This article was published in Pakistan Politico, December 2019 Special Issue

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Good article but if the IAF cross the border again and hurt another Pakistani tree or kill one of our crows or the 300 jinn that only Indians can see then let the PAF loose. Its was a blunder in hindsight to not take out the further 8 aircraft lit up on PAF screens. Had they done that it would have been a lesson for a generation at least for the IAF.
 
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Good article but if the IAF cross the border again and hurt another Pakistani tree or kill one of our crows or the 300 jinn that only Indians can see then let the PAF loose. Its was a blunder in hindsight to not take out the further 8 aircraft lit up on PAF screens. Had they done that it would have been a lesson for a generation at least for the IAF.

Yeah except landing us into a full fledged war of missiles raining down our targets right?
How easy is it to make judgments sitting on your keyboard?
 
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Yeah except landing us into a full fledged war of missiles raining down our targets right?
How easy is it to make judgments sitting on your keyboard?
I think had we taken pit the further 8 aircraft the indians would not have done that. Look how the article states the uses SSM as a threat. We would have done the same. So when man knows he will get punched in the face if he strikes you then he will think twice
 
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Changing Dynamics of Air Warfare in South Asia

The Balakot strike by IAF on 26 February 2019, and PAF’s ‘Swift Retort’ a day later, can be considered watershed events in modern aerial warfare. Though the IAF strike was beset with technical snags, including failure of stand-off bombs to guide themselves to the target due to faulty terrain elevation data, it was able to deliver the ordnance – albeit, in the pine forests – from as far as 40 km away. Interception of ingressing IAF fighters threw up a new conundrum: flying in their own territory, the hostile intentions of the fighters could not be read in advance and they could not be fired at, lest Pakistan be accused of unprovoked aggression. After weapons release, the IAF aircraft rapidly turned back, and could not be chased for fear of violating international rules of engagement, as the release of bombs – and the breach of peace – was discovered only after some time.

PAF retaliated within 30 hours of the IAF strike, and hit Indian military targets with stand-off bombs, staying well within own territory. The sizeable strike package including its escorts, as well as the accompanying fighter sweep aircraft swamped the Indian air defence radar scopes, and the patrolling Su-30 aircraft were promptly vectored towards the PAF swarm. Sooner the PAF strike fighters had delivered the bombs and turned around, the F-16s and JF-17s swept the skies, with very useful support from data-linked AEWC and ground radars, as well as from own formation members. The pilots were glued to their multi-function displays streaming vital information and firing cues. It was as if a whole squadron was playing a mass video game in the skies. With excellent situational awareness, and the adversary in disarray, an F-16 fired a BVR AMRAAM (AIM-120C) at an approaching Su-30. Whether the aircraft survived with nil or minor damage, or was hit critically remains moot, but the missile coming from nowhere and exploding in the vicinity resulted in complete panic amongst the IAF aircraft. The patrolling IAF Mirage 2000s too seemed shell-shocked, and did not enter the fray; MiG-21 Bisons on ground alert had, therefore, to be scrambled. All this time PAF’s airborne and ground jammers were at work, and the IAF pilots and air defence controllers were thrown into total confusion. As one of the scrambled MiGs appeared on the radar scope of an F-16, another AMRAAM was fired, which shot the MiG out of the sky, the pilot surviving by a whisker and parachuting in to Pakistani territory.
The mission flown by the PAF was unique in many ways. The ground targets had been identified and prepared well in advance for exactly such an eventuality. The pilots had routinely practised flying in large packages, with ECM support and comprehensive situational awareness provided by AEWC aircraft. BVR missiles were used in the Indo-Pak scenario for the first time; interestingly, close combat situations did not crop up for the classic dogfighters like PAF’s F-16 and IAF’s Mirage 2000, for instance. It was manifest that BVR combat had taken precedence over close combat, if not rendering it completely obsolete. A fighter in any future conflict must, therefore have both long and short range missile firing capabilities, along with the associated sensors like radars, threat warning systems, and data links. PAF could do well by urgently replacing its legacy fighters with ‘home-grown’ JF-17s (especially the upcoming Block III version), which have all the desirable attributes at an affordable cost.
For surface attack, stand-off capabilities were demonstrated by both air forces, and the safety of attacking aircraft was clearly highlighted. Accuracy of the attacks was, however, not achieved for different reasons: the IAF suffering from faulty terrain data being fed into the bombs’ guidance system, and PAF being constrained by political considerations to prevent escalation by avoiding direct hits on military targets. In any case, the efficacy of stand-off weapon delivery was unmistakably validated, and it is certain that this is likely to be the mode of choice in any future conflict. An aircraft not having such a weapon delivery capability should be considered redundant for surface attack missions.
With IAF having the initiative, and PAF finding itself in a reactive mode, the latter’s full operational preparedness clearly saved the day. The whole operation was over within 48 hours, and deployment of strike elements of ground forces did not take place. It became amply clear that air forces offer the best and swiftest means of retribution under a nuclear overhang, as the relatively slow positioning of ground troops to their operational areas is fraught with the possibility of being stymied, due to international pressure. PAF’s tour de force will, thus, serve as a model for dealing with any future Indian military action that is punitive in nature. PAF’s preparedness must continue to be refined, as IAF is expected to iron out the hitches that dogged its operations during the failed Balakot strike.
It is to be noted that after a disastrous showing by IAF on the 26th and 27th February, the Indian government unwisely decided to even the score by deploying – conceivably, for employing – Surface-to-Surface Missiles (SSMs) against targets in Pakistan. Apparently, this measure was aimed at preventing further fighter losses at the hands of the PAF that was perceived by the IAF as being technically superior. Exercise of the rash and senseless decision to deploy SSMs could well have been misconstrued by Pakistan, and a catastrophic exchange could have followed between nuclear-armed neighbours. The Government of Pakistan, as well as its armed forces, should treat it as a textbook lesson in regional conflict escalation dynamics, and must remain cognisant of such developments in any future conflict.
With the Rubicon having been crossed after the Balakot raid, use of IAF fighters to compliment the usual artillery shelling across the Line of Control, is likely to be the new norm for intimidating Pakistan. While PAF’s response is likely to be as swift as it was on 27 February, decision-making by the politico-military leadership may be complicated by a host of prevailing factors, both internal and external. It is therefore imperative that meetings of the National Security Council and Joint Staff Headquarters are conducted regularly, and key decision-makers are kept posted about the developments so that there are no surprises. The government must be fully aware that for the PAF to react as swiftly as it did in the recent skirmish, there will be a premium on prompt and smart decision-making. It is also important to note that what starts as a single service response (by the PAF), could rapidly morph into a wider war; as such, over-dependence on the PAF could be fraught with risks, and a joint services response must continue to remain the ultimate objective of the Pakistani government to any aggression.

© KAISER TUFAIL

This article was published in Pakistan Politico, December 2019 Special Issue

Kaiser Tufail
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His interview to a YouTube channel was to come out. What happened?
 
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Pakistan's response in Swift Retort could not have been any better. Thus Pakistan's victory in Swift Retort came because of two strength.
  1. Ability to punish the enemy for aggression
  2. Controlling the escalation leader and not giving Indians justification to conduct another operation.
Christian fair highlighted how stupid Indians have been that they not only fabricated downing of an F-16 but by doing so, they also lost an opportunity to equal a score. Now Indian public is stupid, thanks to their media - but IAF knows what happened to it and how badly Pakistan pulled its leash for it trying to be a bad dog.
 
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I think had we taken pit the further 8 aircraft the indians would not have done that. Look how the article states the uses SSM as a threat. We would have done the same. So when man knows he will get punched in the face if he strikes you then he will think twice


No no, kill 8 aircraft, capture most of those pilots or show their dead bodies and I'm pretty sure the indian public will want to celebrate Diwali with you?

What world do you live in? Try blowing up 10 helicopters or jets or whatever if the Afghans if they have any and even they will be forced to declare war on you from public pressure and humiliation in the world community.
 
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No no, kill 8 aircraft, capture most of those pilots or show their dead bodies and I'm pretty sure the indian public will want to celebrate Diwali with you?

What world do you live in? Try blowing up 10 helicopters or jets or whatever if the Afghans if they have any and even they will be forced to declare war on you from public pressure and humiliation in the world community.
Yet they came in your home and bombed you. Oh bhai had they hit the building and there were 300 kids in there then what? Grow a pair please. You are the sort of man if someone punches you will say I wont punch u back just incase you hit me harder.
Now how many aircraft did they lose that day? Why didnt they come?

Funny thing is during the conflict I was of the same opinion as you. It has now changed.
 
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Yet they came in your home and bombed you. Oh bhai had they hit the building and there were 300 kids in there then what? Grow a pair please. You are the sort of man if someone punches you will say I wont punch u back just incase you hit me harder.
Now how many aircraft did they lose that day? Why didnt they come?

Funny thing is during the conflict I was of the same opinion as you. It has now changed.



Wow retard. You want to come personal at me and comment on what I will do as a person or not and whether I carry a pair or not just because you are dumb and you want to send my country into dumb errands to satisfy your keyboard warrior bullshit?

Grow yourself a brain before telling me what to grow bitch. And try to use that brain to talk logic in an argument instead of talking personal while you have zero clue on what and who you are talking to.

And as for being what kind of man, dumb idiots like you will have my country go create a war and then run to their momma because all you excel at is talking shit, dressing funny and speaking tough "on the Internet", while having zero clue on what gets put at stake and how many countries in the world are eagerly waiting for Pakistan to some how get landed in a war with India as the final phase of the war they have been waging for over a decade.

There is a reason these decisions are made by people with knowledge, and not little dumb chicks like you who think they know shit just because they sit on a forum.


Did your little low IQ brain ever tell you india came to bomb you that day just so they can create a war with you when you go bomb them in return?
Or by doing what they did to Kashmir to invite you for a war? Or what they are going to do now?

Having no clue and then lacking logic, and going personal is your way out for having no logical reasoning @ dumb shit?
 
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