Breaking News - MiG29 damaged at hard landing at Carrier

[kaku1]

How many months has India operate a stobar carrier compare to CV-16 Liaoning and it already scored a mishap?


Then precisely, you shall able to catch our CV-16 liaoning mishap and start to brag about it. But the fact it dont proves, CV-16 LIaoning are operating 100% safe take off and landing so far.

Are you going nuts, so you thinking we keep track Liaoning on simple incident like hard landing. Rofl, bro you are giving too much importance to your AC. We have other problems here bro, and your AC come on No.100.

BTW, if that happen too, PLA doesnt going to reveal that, you doesnt have that kind of media like we have in India, that every news become sensationalized here.

 

[qwerrty]

to be fair this is normal. this shouldn't be in the news. it happens all the time in american navy. im just trollin them a bit

 

[Koovie]

The most difficult part about carrier ops is never about launching but landing. You do not need an expert to tell you that. That is why your aircraft suffer landing mishap. What does ski jump contribute much to STOBAR carrier ops? Your INS Vikrant is it the one you last used 30 years ago? Does that experience so long count? I doubt so. I don't know why you are trying so hard to prove IN is so experience in carrier ops. If that is the case, accident shall not even happen in the first place with so much experience gather.
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1.) The INS Vikrant was decommissioned 17 years ago, not 30 years ago.
2.) Sure the IN is not the most experienced carrier operator, but it has more experience than any other navy in Asia. It has used carriers for decades and has successfully used them in war in a decisive role.

And for the 100th time: Even the most experienced navies encounter mishaps while operating carriers... shall I start counting the mishaps which happened on USN carriers during the last decade?

 

[kaku1]

1.) The INS Vikrant was decommissioned 17 years ago, not 30 years ago.
2.) Sure the IN is not the most experienced carrier operator, but it has more experience than any other navy in Asia. It has used carriers for decades and has successfully used them in war in a decisive role.

And for the 100th time: Even the most experienced navies encounter mishaps while operating carriers... shall I start counting the mishaps which happened on USN carriers during the last decade?

Even most experienced jumbojet with most experienced pilot sometimes do hard landing on 14000 ft long runway.

 

[Basel]

Accidents happens in every part of the world, but if the same would have happened in Chinese ACC then Indians would have been trolling about the equipment quality of PLAN and how superior IN is when it comes to operating ACCs.

Now in this thread Indians are saying that they are new to STOBAR ACC and they are learning, same is with China but in their ACC thread Indians were trying to prove they have 40 years of experience operating ACC and they are better, what a joke they say STOBAR is new to them, when Chinese have said the same to Indians, they were not ready to accept that the they are new to STOBAR ACC.

 

[Beast]

the mig29k like the USN f 18 have much higher approach speed than the j 15 which is the su 33 copy used by china
making mig29k much more harder to land than the j 15. hence it will take time for our pilots to master it as they are more prone to errors while landing

Excuse and excuse. J-15 is a far bigger bird and heavier and more difficult to handle especially landing and yet PLAN has not any landing mishap once again demonstrated the superior of PLAN professionalism compare to shabby IN training procedure who nothing but excuse for all of their man made incident.

Absolutely right bro.Well those who criticise naval pilots must also consider their risk .They are trained for all weather fighting.Now just imagine a rainy ,thunderstorm day in the Arabian sea.If there is an emergency arise ,our pilots must operate in that condition and landing at that time may be at zero visiblity condition.
So far USN knows such risk .

Great planning and well thought/superior training kit will ensure 0% error in training. Something must be wrong with IN training if PLAN could achieved 0% carrier landing accident rate so far.

Are you going nuts, so you thinking we keep track Liaoning on simple incident like hard landing. Rofl, bro you are giving too much importance to your AC. We have other problems here bro, and your AC come on No.100.

BTW, if that happen too, PLA doesnt going to reveal that, you doesnt have that kind of media like we have in India, that every news become sensationalized here.

We dont even think India got the technology to full time track our carrier but Europe and USA do. They will first time report our carrier accident if anything happens. But we are glad to disappoint them so far.

 

[SrNair]

Excuse and excuse. J-15 is a far bigger bird and heavier and more difficult to handle especially landing and yet PLAN has not any landing mishap once again demonstrated the superior of PLAN professionalism compare to shabby IN training procedure who nothing but excuse for all of their man made incident.



Great planning and well thought/superior training kit will ensure 0% error in training. Something must be wrong with IN training if PLAN could achieved 0% landing accident rate so far.

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That was too easy when you talk about zero error ,right?

But real situation is absolutely different.I dont think you can get it for now or future due to the opaquness of Chinese military.

 

[special]

Excuse and excuse. J-15 is a far bigger bird and heavier and more difficult to handle especially landing and yet PLAN has not any landing mishap once again demonstrated the superior of PLAN professionalism compare to shabby IN training procedure who nothing but excuse for all of their man made incident.



Great planning and well thought/superior training kit will ensure 0% error in training. Something must be wrong with IN training if PLAN could achieved 0% landing accident rate so far.

in india a small crash is reported.. in PLAN nothing is reported..they kept everything secret.. the freedom for media is not that liberal in china, particularly in defense.

 

[Beast]

in india a small crash is reported.. in PLAN nothing is reported..they kept everything secret.. the freedom for media is not that liberal in china, particularly in defense.

I already explained very clearly that nothing is able to hide from USA satelite eyes. So much for of your lousy procedure that keep plague IN.

 

[kaku1]

Excuse and excuse. J-15 is a far bigger bird and heavier and more difficult to handle especially landing and yet PLAN has not any landing mishap once again demonstrated the superior of PLAN professionalism compare to shabby IN training procedure who nothing but excuse for all of their man made incident.



Great planning and well thought/superior training kit will ensure 0% error in training. Something must be wrong with IN training if PLAN could achieved 0% carrier landing accident rate so far.


We dont even think India got the technology to full time track our carrier but Europe and USA do. They will first time report our carrier accident if anything happens. But we are glad to disappoint them so far.

Full time track, from sats, rofl,dont be naive. now Americans can even report that Liaoning's skipper have pain in the stomach or not. How much they infiltrated in your carrier ops. God save your carrier.

 

[Beast]

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That was too easy when you talk about zero error ,right?

But real situation is absolutely different.I dont think you can get it for now or future due to the opaquness of Chinese military.

Precisely, that is the mentality of IN. And that explains the differents between IN and PLAN. J-15 landing are aided by advance auto landing pilot system. I doubt IN Mig-29K even has that system installed.

Full time track, from sats, rofl,dont be naive. now Americans can even report that Liaoning's skipper have pain in the stomach or not. How much they infiltrated in your carrier ops. God save your carrier.

No able to find fault with PLAN perfect landing and resort to smearing? Then why US is so free to report our HGV, ASAT and DF-41 ICBM test when we wanted to keep it a hush hush program?

 

[Koovie]

Even most experienced jumbojet with most experienced pilot sometimes do hard landing on 14000 ft long runway.

NO! @Beast told us that something like that could NEVER happen to a Chinese crew!

 

[kaku1]

NO! @Beast told us that something like that could NEVER happen to a Chinese crew!

Yup, they are all Zombies, they dont do any mistakes.

 

[Beast]

NO! @Beast told us that something like that could NEVER happen to a Chinese crew!

It will only happen to Indian Crew. You let them have the most advance and safe plane. Chances of screwing it up is very high.

 

[gslv mk3]

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Now in this thread Indians are saying that they are new to STOBAR ACC and they are learning, same is with China but in their ACC thread Indians were trying to prove they have 40 years of experience operating ACC and they are better, what a joke they say STOBAR is new to them, when Chinese have said the same to Indians, they were not ready to accept that the they are new to STOBAR ACC.

Stop cheerleading,it was a Tyre burst.

And even USN crashes their jets while landing on carrier.what are you trying to prove ?