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Belgium allows PKK to celebrate the anniversary of its first terror attack against Turkey

So the right of self determination only applies to (indian administered) kashmir according to you hypocrites?

They are celebrated the death of innocent civilians, if you think that's okay you should go to the doctor. Also, I could say the same thing about Baluchistan and Indians.
 
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They are celebrated the death of innocent civilians, if you think that's okay you should go to the doctor. Also, I could say the same thing about Baluchistan and Indians.

So you support the right of kurds and uighurs to self determination?
 
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So you support the right of kurds and uighurs to self determination?

No, because Muslims should not separate from Muslims based on ethnicity, as mentioned in Islam it's a sin as you are just weakening Muslims.

Kashmir is different, that is seeking independence from a non Muslim state because they oppress you, perfectly fine in Islam.
 
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No, because Muslims should not separate from Muslims based on ethnicity, as mentioned in Islam it's a sin as you are just weakening Muslims.

Kashmir is different, that is seeking independence from a non Muslim state because they oppress you, perfectly fine in Islam.

So you made the communist party of papa honorary muslims? Lol you pakistanis are funny as hell.
 
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Read carefully, the PKK just yesterday killed civilians and policemen as they have been doing for the past 40 years. This makes them, beyond a shadow of doubt, a terror organization. Now crawl back under Sisi's boot and start praying he doesn't fully cut all of your subsidies, you two bit and lazy vermin.
I don't approve of killing civilians but do you know how many died because of your country support to terror groups in the region
I welcome the move to a free market in Egypt it will not be easy but the half socialist half capitalist economic system we had for 40 years has led Egypt to this point but that is a topic for another time
 
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I don't approve of killing civilians but do you know how many died because of your country support to terror groups in the region
I welcome the move to a free market in Egypt it will not be easy but the half socialist half capitalist economic system we had for 40 years has led Egypt to this point but that is a topic for another time
Prove that Turkey supports terror groups
 
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isis and pkk are on the terror list of EU, yet pkk is free to protest and wave flags of their leader while isis supporters cant protest (not that they should be allowed). Nothing new here.
 
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It's because Belgians are scared of confrontation that they become the favourite terror targets of Isil scum. Oh well, you reap what you sow.

Rest assured allowing a recognised terror organization stage demos is not acceptable, and the price of this will be demanded one way or another.
PKK is seperate from and predates ISIL by many, many years. The first training camp was established in 1982 in Bekaa Valley (which was then under Syrian control), with the support of the Palestine Liberation Organization and Syria. Since the Kurds are spread over different states (Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Iran) so is the PKK. During the controversial Ergenekon trials in Turkey, allegations have been made that the PKK is linked to elements of the Turkish intelligence community.

The PKK engaged the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) forces in Syria in mid-July 2014 as part of the Syrian Civil War. In August the PKK engaged IS in Northern Iraq and pressured the Government of Turkey to take a stand against IS. PKK forces helped "tens of thousands of Yazidis escape an encircled Mount Sinjar." In September 2014, during the Siege of Kobane, the PKK engaged with Islamic State forces in Syria, which resulted in conflicts with Turks on the border and an end to a cease-fire that had been in place over a year. PKK snipers were active fighting ISIL on the front line in Sinjar in 2015. Meanwhile, the Turkish government restricted PKK-associated fighters' movement across its borders and Turkish Air Force fighter-bombers attacked PKK positions in the vicinity of Daglica, Hakkari Province. In July 2015, Turkey finally became involved in the war against ISIL. While they were doing so, they decided to bomb PKK targets in Iraq.

Your comment suggest you are ill-informed

ps. Are you suggesting Turkish retaliation against Belgium? As if threats are going to help Turkey...

isis and pkk are on the terror list of EU, yet pkk is free to protest and wave flags of their leader while isis supporters cant protest (not that they should be allowed). Nothing new here.
Yes, the PKK is listed as a terrorist organization by several states and organizations, including the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), the United States of America and European Union.

However, the United Nations and countries such as Switzerland, China, India, Russia and Egypt have not designated the PKK as a terrorist organization.

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/belgium-allows-pkk-to-celebrate-the-anniversary-of-its-first-terror-attack-against-turkey.444467/#ixzz4HUyWy0Th

Belgium is a member of NATO and EU as well as UN.

As indicated, how police decide to deal with an unauthorized demonstration is their priveledge (an operational decision). It does not mean the Belgian authorities condone or support PPK (tactical and strategic decisions). Only simple minded people make such simple connections
 
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PKK is seperate from and predates ISIL by many, many years. The first training camp was established in 1982 in Bekaa Valley (which was then under Syrian control), with the support of the Palestine Liberation Organization and Syria. Since the Kurds are spread over different states (Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Iran) so is the PKK. During the controversial Ergenekon trials in Turkey, allegations have been made that the PKK is linked to elements of the Turkish intelligence community.

The PKK engaged the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) forces in Syria in mid-July 2014 as part of the Syrian Civil War. In August the PKK engaged IS in Northern Iraq and pressured the Government of Turkey to take a stand against IS. PKK forces helped "tens of thousands of Yazidis escape an encircled Mount Sinjar." In September 2014, during the Siege of Kobane, the PKK engaged with Islamic State forces in Syria, which resulted in conflicts with Turks on the border and an end to a cease-fire that had been in place over a year. PKK snipers were active fighting ISIL on the front line in Sinjar in 2015. Meanwhile, the Turkish government restricted PKK-associated fighters' movement across its borders and Turkish Air Force fighter-bombers attacked PKK positions in the vicinity of Daglica, Hakkari Province. In July 2015, Turkey finally became involved in the war against ISIL. While they were doing so, they decided to bomb PKK targets in Iraq.

Your comment suggest you are ill-informed

ps. Are you suggesting Turkish retaliation against Belgium? As if threats are going to help Turkey...
We don't have to retaliate at all, your amateurish borderline stupid handling of extremists is already making you pay a physchlogical/material price that only a full scale invasion can outshine....keep it up:lol:. The PKK and Isil have one thing in common p:both are terror groups but PKK is tacitly supported because it serves your interests. They will be dealt with one way or another, no matter how many demonstrations they are allowed to stage in your countries and no matter how long the text wall you post here. :enjoy:
 
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PKK is seperate from and predates ISIL by many, many years. The first training camp was established in 1982 in Bekaa Valley (which was then under Syrian control), with the support of the Palestine Liberation Organization and Syria. Since the Kurds are spread over different states (Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Iran) so is the PKK. During the controversial Ergenekon trials in Turkey, allegations have been made that the PKK is linked to elements of the Turkish intelligence community.

The PKK engaged the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) forces in Syria in mid-July 2014 as part of the Syrian Civil War. In August the PKK engaged IS in Northern Iraq and pressured the Government of Turkey to take a stand against IS. PKK forces helped "tens of thousands of Yazidis escape an encircled Mount Sinjar." In September 2014, during the Siege of Kobane, the PKK engaged with Islamic State forces in Syria, which resulted in conflicts with Turks on the border and an end to a cease-fire that had been in place over a year. PKK snipers were active fighting ISIL on the front line in Sinjar in 2015. Meanwhile, the Turkish government restricted PKK-associated fighters' movement across its borders and Turkish Air Force fighter-bombers attacked PKK positions in the vicinity of Daglica, Hakkari Province. In July 2015, Turkey finally became involved in the war against ISIL. While they were doing so, they decided to bomb PKK targets in Iraq.

Your comment suggest you are ill-informed

ps. Are you suggesting Turkish retaliation against Belgium? As if threats are going to help Turkey...


Yes, the PKK is listed as a terrorist organization by several states and organizations, including the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), the United States of America and European Union.

However, the United Nations and countries such as Switzerland, China, India, Russia and Egypt have not designated the PKK as a terrorist organization.

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/belgium-allows-pkk-to-celebrate-the-anniversary-of-its-first-terror-attack-against-turkey.444467/#ixzz4HUyWy0Th

Belgium is a member of NATO and EU as well as UN.

As indicated, how police decide to deal with an unauthorized demonstration is their priveledge (an operational decision). It does not mean the Belgian authorities condone or support PPK (tactical and strategic decisions). Only simple minded people make such simple connections
Other (radical) groups in Syria are also fighting isis, why doesn't the US and EU supply these groups and send advisors directly like they do with pyd/ypg, which is pkk's syria wing (pkk is also on the terror list of the US and EU). The US has a clear agenda for pyd/ypg and the region. While Turkey is contributing towards the fight against pkk and isis, our 'allies' are openly supporting the pkk's Syrian wing and allows them to make propaganda in the EU and US. Who is hypocrite #1 is crystal clear.
 
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