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You must wait till morningApparently you can see the sun in the sky, So please show it to me.
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You must wait till morningApparently you can see the sun in the sky, So please show it to me.
Huh huh huh huhYou must wait till morning
these are just analysis and repeats of Jewish torah, not an original history book, so no credit.Well let me introduce you to some books (I guaranty all of them are written before Bahlavi dynasty)
Asar-al-baqyah written by Abu Reyhan Biruni
History of kings and prophets by Hamzeh Isfahani
the origin of scriptures are in question, specially when we see several childish fabrications.Also cyrus name is mentioned in Biston and its also written in alot of small epigraphs in pasargad .
none of them has said Cyrus is the Zul Qarnein, and they can't.And don't forget what allame Tabatabaee in Tafasir - al-Mizan wrote about Zu-al-Qarnein ? And also Ayat-Allah Makarem Shirazi supported his belief .
well, make up your mind, Cyrus fans once a while relate one of Shahnameh's character to Cyrus. Fereidoon, Key-khosro, etc. I'm afraid they may say Rostam is Cyrus too!!!Also you can guess in ferdowsi Shahnameh who was Kay Bahman .
Achaemenid empire:
Whoever claimed key khosro and key kavus to achamenid kings have some comprehension problem as I knew three king in shahnameh attributed to that dynasty ,key bahman, Darab and Dara.these are just analysis and repeats of Jewish torah, not an original history book, so no credit.
the origin of scriptures are in question, specially when we see several childish fabrications.
also by directly using the term Cyrus, you will have a paradox in your claims, cause after all you say Cyrus wasn't the real name but a term which Jews used to refer to our king. (though it just means those scriptures are recently added by our Zionist friends not ancient Iranian)
none of them has said Cyrus is the Zul Qarnein, and they can't.
they just argue that between available theories like western Alexander, Yemeni king, ... , Cyrus is the most probable.
so what if Zol Qarnein is none of those names at all, we also have 4000 years old history sites which shows a king has been ruling the east and west (and we almost know nothing about him). time doesn't start from 2500 years ago!
well, make up your mind, Cyrus fans once a while relate one of Shahnameh's character to Cyrus. Fereidoon, Key-khosro, etc. I'm afraid they may say Rostam is Cyrus too!!!
but all of these are lame tries to somehow connect this new Cyrus guy to our available literature. the ultimate fact remains that Ferdosi hasn't mentioned anything about Cyrus.
For centuries, instead of being attributed to Darius I, the Great, it was believed to be from the reign of Khosrau II of Persia—one of the last Sassanid kings, who lived over 1000 years after the time of Darius I.
The inscription is mentioned by Ctesias of Cnidus, who noted its existence some time around 400 BC and mentioned a well and a garden beneath the inscription. He incorrectly concluded that the inscription had been dedicated "by Queen Semiramis of Babylon to Zeus". Tacitus also mentions it and includes a description of some of the long-lost ancillary monuments at the base of the cliff, including an altar to "Herakles". What has been recovered of them, including a statue dedicated in 148 BC, is consistent with Tacitus's description. Diodorus also writes of "Bagistanon" and claims it was inscribed by Semiramis.
And You see those respected school at believe he was real unlike you who believe he was result of imagination of pahlavi dynasty.In 1598, the Englishman Robert Sherley saw the inscription during a diplomatic mission to Persia on behalf of Austria, and brought it to the attention of Western European scholars. His party incorrectly came to the conclusion that it was Christian in origin.[1] French General Gardanne thought it showed "Christ and his twelve apostles", and Sir Robert Ker Porter thought it represented the Lost Tribes of Israel and Shalmaneser of Assyria.[2] Italian explorer Pietro della Valle visited the inscription in the course of a pilgrimage in around 1621.
Let me explain to you how things really happened in the simplest way possible.Wow that's really interesting...that's like Mormons..a sect of Christians initiated in USA just a century ago and their prophet is still alive..
So why still the people are believing this mythical character especially after the revolution of 1979.
No, I'm not the first or last, it's you who don't bother to read the critics arguments and just through some B.S from wiki!You are the first person who make this ridiculous claim that the inscription is new
And You see those respected school at believe he was real unlike you who believe he was result of imagination of pahlavi dynasty.
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Cyrus the great movie is a cinematic blasphemy, It's just repeating the old Pahlavi lies.Cyrus the great movie is not against islam its against those movies that some westerns in hollywood are killing 10000000000000000000000 Iranian
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Books also give you different perspective of the same events and you can always apply your own logic to it. Something that's always interpreted in one way, is never the full truth. Movies about historic events are one of them, hence why I avoid them.It is better to read some history books since movies mostly exaggerate and distort for cinematic and business purposes
No he was not neither Alexander the Great zo al qarnayn was king from Yemen I thinkOnly one of them Dariush was not his children or grand childrem
Well mohsen let just say your knowledge of history on this matter is lacking.
By the way many of Islamic scholar believe zo-al-qarneyn was Cyrus the great.
the guys who made this lies and the ones who promote it are the low life who sold their country and culture and history .No, I'm not the first or last, it's you who don't bother to read the critics arguments and just through some B.S from wiki!
This is the today's picture of Bisetoon, it's inscription are the main source of fantasies about Achaemenid:
and below, we have a picture from the same place but without a king, without an Ahura Mazda (GOD) symbol and of course without inscriptions, apparently Achaemenid invented the camera 2500 years ago!
and below, we have our Arab (Egyptian) brothers, helping Zionists carving a few lines and extra shapes for us!
it's disgraceful, it boils my blood, I seriously don't know how you people adhere to these craps.
Painting by Pascal Coste 1840آبل پینستون فرانسوی در گزارش خود (24 نوامبر 1598 میلادی)نگاره مرد درون دایره بالدار(اشاره به فروهر) را در سنگ نگاره بیستون نگاره صعود مسیح و سنگ نوشته ها را نشانه هایی یونانی انگاشت.
والتر هینتس، داریوش و پارس ها ؛ ترجمه عبدالرحمان صدریه، 1380، انتشارات امیرکبیر.ص22-23
دکتر ویلز اهل انگلستان که در 1876 م (1293ق) در کرمانشاه به سر برده:
«محلی تاریخی که بر صفحه ای وسیع از سنگ های ستیغ و دیواره عمودی کوه آن، سنگ نوشته هایی به خط میخی به چشم می خورد. هیکل عظیم و برافراشته این کوه از کیلومترها دورتر،ابهت و عظمت بخصوصی دارد که سنگ نوشته های آن به وسیله شرق شناسی به نام سرهنری راولینسون ترجمه شده است......» ایران در یک قرن پیش-(سفرنامه دکتر ویلز)ترجمه غلامحسین قراگوزلو،اقبال،1368(ص146-147)
خب اگه شما میخواهید پیروی نظریات این یارو که حتی همپالگیهاش توی حزب توده بخاطر دزدی از حزب انداختنش بیرون باشید من دیگه حرفی ندارم[/QUOTE]He considered Behistun Inscription as a symbol of this genocide.[6] He claimed that construction of Persepolis was never finished[7] and that the Achaemenid dynasty was a group of ancient barbarian Slavic invaders that ended with Darius the Great after they returned to their homeland in the Eurasian steppes. The rest of the Achaemenid, Parthian, Sassanid, Tahirid, Ghaznavid, Seljuqid and Samanid dynasties according to Pourpirar were fabricated by historians of mostly Jewish background as part of a Jewish conspiracy.[8]
According to Pourpirar a few historic sites that are said to be Parthian are either clearly related to Greeks or are modern forgery. He claimed that all inscriptions said to be Sassanid are modern forgeries. He claimed that historical personalities such as Mazdak, Mani, Zoroaster, Babak, Abu Moslem, and Salman the Persian were invented by modern Jewish historians.[9][10]
He does exist but many stories about him are made up by jewsYes,these artworks are part of the artbook which prepared for this film.