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I read surah Kahf every Jumma and with translation and explanation (tafsir)... How come Dhul Qurnain become Cyrus all of the sudden. No scholar is sure, they just say some people think...some people say but no one is sure and furthermore, it needs a body of scholars to declare it through a proper methodology.

Moreover as the learned and respected Iranian members have said he was an idolator and married to his siblings...how come he be a Prophet?
As long as, a king named Cyrus existed...it may or may not be true and should be investigated but don't try to turn an idolator into a Prophet for God sake.
They say bullshits about Sassanian kings and Safavid kings as well as.

According to our greatest Islamic scholars Dhul-Qarnayn is Cyrus the great who conquered from east to west.

As far as I know we Iranians never worshipped idols in our country and Cyrus the great was a Zoroasterian.

Cyrus was the greatest Persian Emperor and a righteous human being. At the time of victory, he was generous toward defeated people. Being a freeman, he won the heart of his people, permitting them to worship their gods. He was extraordinarily peerless in all over the world. Comparing Cyrus' manner with Semi's rulers, one feels great pleasure for the Persian liberality and generosity and truly regards the Persian as the instructor of human race.

Much information, concerning the historical figure renowned, among Western people, for virtue and humanity emanates from two reliable sources, the Bible and Herodotus written in 5th Cent. BC. It is proclaimed that Cyrus was the first legislative who issued a number of principles in terms of human rights.
Having defeated the Medes, he founded Achaemenid dynasty as the first Persian Emperor. Based on some narratives of the Old Testament, Cyrus captured Babel, with the aid of God, set free the Jewish detainees and let them go back to Jerusalem.

Some interpreters believe that in Quran, Zol-gharnein refers to "Alexander the Great", while some others, comparing some verses of Quran pertinent to Zol-gharnein and Cyrus' life story, assume that God meant "Cyrus the Great" and no one else.
In the holy Qur'an, there are 16 verses in the Kahf Sureh (verses 83-98) that talk about Zol-qarnain and some aspects of his personality. Zol-qarnain of the holy Qur'an is NOT Alexander the Great. It is Cyrus the Great, the famous Persian king of the Achamenid Dynasty (580-529BC). Consider the following:

1- Alexander was not a monotheistic man. He was a blasphemer who worshipped the many gods of Ancient Greece. The Biography of Alexander, written by a famous Greek historian (Herodotus) states that Alexander believed that he was the son of Zeus! The Qur'an's Zol-qarnain was God-revering and a monotheist, and so was Cyrus. As the most probable date for the appearance of Zoroaster is in the mid-sixth century B.C., this date is close to the time Cyrus lived.
2- Cyrus is mentioned in the Old Testament and the Book of Ezra as a God-revering person, a description that matched the qualities of Zol-qarnain in the Qur'an.
3- The deeds of the Achaemenian king were in accordance to the deeds described in the Qur'an, as he fought with the Lydians in Asia Minor and then with the Sakas in the east (unlike Alexander the Great).
4- The Koranic verses in the 'AL KAHF' sura, which talk about Zol-qarnain, begin with the words: "And they ask you about Zol-qarnain..". Meaning that the Jews are asking the Prophet Muhammad about him. This means that this king was known to the Jews, and is mentioned in the Old Testament. Alexander the Great is not mentioned in the Old Testament, nor did he have any close relation with the Jews.
5- Zol-qarnain in the Qur'an is said to have built a barrier of copper and iron after fighting the Ya'jooj and Ma'jooj people. Cyrus built a similar barrier in the Daryal Pass, the remains of which are still existing.
6- "qarn" in Arabic has two meanings: "horn" and "century". " Zol-qarnain " could literally mean in Arabic: "The man of two horns" or "The man of two centuries". This "one word having multiple meanings" but Cyrus Relief, in Pasargadae shows The man of two horns.!
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7- Cyrus is a personality mentioned in the Bible, i.e the Old Testament (the Book of Daniel, the Book of Ezra and some other books where Cyrus is referred to in very explicit terms: Daniel dreamt that in the palace of Susa in Elam, a two-horned ram triumphed over all animals, with the exception of a one-horned goat that finally defeated the ram. Daniel lost consciousness after this dream and an angel appeared to him, saying that the ram he had seen was the king of the Medes and the Persians, while the one-horned goat was the king of the Greeks) (Book of Daniel, chapter 8, verses 20-21).
Zol-gharnein was a merciful king who was kind to inferiors which is true of Cyrus the Great to the extent that even his enemies revered him. He was the one who issued the Charter of Liberty and Human Rights in Babel.

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The identity of Dhul Qurnain is one of those secrets which Allah has hidden from mankind and there is a big reason for that too, if the identity of dhul qurnain is authentically established than with it, will be easily traced the location of the wall that imprisons gog and magog and that is a secret which Allah will only reveal at its designated time, apart from this fact numerous attempts have been made by several nations to attribute dhul qurnain with them and that is nothing but random quests for glory to feel good about themselves, nothing more.

A lot of historical scripts were lost when the grand library of Alexandria caught fire from caesar's ships, some say entire era's of human history were lost in that fire as Alexander had collected tons of scripts from his empire and transfered them to the library of alexandria. The era of dhul qurnain might've faded away in the ashes of the library of alexandria.
Alexandria was an atheist.

Cyrus the great was a religious Zoroasterian who conquered from east to west. According to our Islamic scholars Dhul Qarnayn is Cyrus the great:

www.islamquest.net/en/archive/question/fa5555
 
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Persians were great people unfortunately they lost to muslims.
 
Persians were great people unfortunately they lost to muslims.
Pre Islamic Iranian Zoroasterians were nice people. Post Islamic Iranian Muslims are nice people as well as.

Most of Islamic scholars were Persians.
 
The identity of Dhul Qurnain is one of those secrets which Allah has hidden from mankind and there is a big reason for that too, if the identity of dhul qurnain is authentically established than with it will be easily traced the location of the wall that imprisons gog and magog and that is a secret which Allah will only reveal at its designated time, apart from this fact nunerous attempts have been made by several nations to attribute dhul qurnain with them and that is nothing but random quest for glory to feel good about them selves, nothing more. A lot of historical scripts were lost when the grand library of Alexandria caught fire from caesar's ships, some say entire era's of human history were lost in that fire as Alexander had collected loads of scripts from his empire and transfered them to the library of alexandria.

Exactly, and that's what seems to be motive here... nationalistic glory.
If you read Surah Kahf, since it deals with end of times, it has quite a few mysteries that have been very wisely hidden by Allah the all knowing. The number of the men of cafe (As'hab-e-Kahf), Khizr, Dhul Qurnain.. and we are taught to learn how to understand the metaphorical and figurative meanings instead of taking words literally...The travel of Prophet Musa (AS) with Khizr, has quite a lot of lessons for us to learn...
Thus any attempt to attribute such these Quranic figures to some known historical figures will be a wrong and failed endeavour until the time comes and Allah reveals these matters to us ... All these wars in the middle-east are being driven by eschatological prophecies...

Creation of ISIS by Israel (CIA & MOSSAD) to impersonate the last Khilafat and its use of black flags and its claim over Khorasan...are all driven by these considerations and zionist attempt to fool the unsuspecting Muslims.
 
I read surah Kahf every Jumma and with translation and explanation (tafsir)... How come Dhul Qurnain become Cyrus all of the sudden. No scholar is sure, they just say some people think...some people say but no one is sure and furthermore, it needs a body of scholars to declare it through a proper methodology.

Moreover as the learned and respected Iranian members have said he was an idolator and married to his siblings...how come he be a Prophet?
As long as, a king named Cyrus existed...it may or may not be true and should be investigated but don't try to turn an idolator into a Prophet for God sake.
Well those learned Iranian talked nonsense .
Cyrus the great wife was Cassandane (means dearly loved) and she was daughter of farnasp another prominent Persian leader
 
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Yes indeed they are. But I would have loved to see persian empire till now. It's just my personal opinion I apologize if i said anything wrong.
No problem you’re welcome bro.

Most of Indians are nice people as well as.
 
No problem you’re welcome bro.

Most of Indians are nice people as well as.
Thanks bro. I live in pune and we have many Iranian hotels and restaurants here we love to go there. We have parasi indians such a great people. Do you know ratan tata? They are also parasi means Iranian origin.
 
Thanks bro. I live in pune and we have many Iranian hotels and restaurants here we love to go there. We have parasi indians such a great people. Do you know ratan tata? They are also parasi means Iranian origin.
Great.

No but I just red his bio on Wikipedia. It seems he is a super rich and great person in India. It’s good to see successful Parses in India. :cheers:

I would like to visit Pak and India someday soon inshallah.

I am interested in both of these great countries.
 
That is great.

No I should search it on google.
Tata are the ones who are called father of indian industries. Even our national airlines(air india) is tata airlines founded by jamshethji tata.indian government took it over after independence. Tata's established first indian steel factory. Today also tata industries is everywhere.

Great.

No but I just red his bio on Wikipedia. It seems he is a super rich and great person in India. It’s good to see successful Parses in India. :cheers:

I would like to visit Pak and India someday soon inshallah.

I am interested in both of these great countries.
Bro you are always welcome. Whenever you come to India please come to pune or mumbai. I would love to meet you.
And also i am sotware engineer working in TCS(Tata consulting services)
 
@Cthulhu please cut the nonsense. You will get banned for going on like this. Also you are not funny at all.
This lunatic should get permanently banned. Just my two cents.
With all due respect, Why you two act like what i said is new? As if the nonsense i posted about Iranian history for the last 12 hours wasn't said already by IRI officials for the past 40 years.

1)Mohammed Sadeq Givi Khalkhali, Chief Justice of the revolutionary courts:
Khalkhali was known for his antipathy towards pre-Islamic Iran. In 1979 he wrote a book "branding king Cyrus the Great a tyrant, a liar, and a homosexual" and "called for the destruction of the Tomb of Cyrus and remains of the two-thousand-year-old Persian palace in Shiraz, Fars Province, the Persepolis." According to an interview by Elaine Sciolino of Shiraz-based Ayatollah Majdeddin Mahallati, Khalkhali came to Persepolis with "a band of thugs" and gave an angry speech demanding that "the faithful torch the silk-lined tent city and the grandstand that the Shah had built," but was driven off by stone-throwing local residents.

What's the difference between this guy and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadegh_Khalkhali
https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/صادق_خلخالی
http://tarikhirani.ir/fa/files/15/bodyView/151/کوروش.به.روایت.خلخالی:.دروغین.و.جنایتکار،.جاه‌طلب.و.عیاش.html

2)Morteza Motahhari on Norooz and Chaharshanbe Suri:
https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/چهارشنبه‌سوری#منتقدان_چهارشنبه‌سوری

3) Hassan Abbasi, The Kissinger of Islam: Cyrus was a Zionist
http://roshangari.ir/video/51504

4)Hamed Zamani, The Principlists singer:
https://www.khabaronline.ir/detail/487232/culture/music
https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/حامد_زمانی

5)Hossein Allahkaram (Head of Ansar-e-Hezbollah gang)
http://www.asriran.com/fa/news/508166/حسین-الله‌کرم-کوروش-وجود-خارجی-ندارد-ﭼﺮﺍ-ﺩﺭ-ﺗﺎﺭﯾﺦ-ﻭ-ﺍﺩﺑﯿﺎﺕ-ﺍﯾﺮﺍﻥ-ﻧﺎﻣﯽ-ﺍﺯ-ﮐﻮﺭﻭﺵ-ﻧﯿﺴﺖ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hossein_Allahkaram

6)Grand Ayatollah Hossein Noori-Hamedani:
http://fararu.com/fa/news/294239/انتقاد-آیت‌الله-نوری-همدانی-از-مراسم-مزار-کوروش
http://fa.euronews.com/2016/10/30/reax-to-thousands-of-iranians-gather-in-pasargadae-tomb-of-cyrus

7)Hossein Ravazadeh
http://aftabnews.ir/fa/news/164049/اگر-عمر-منشور-كوروش-بيش-از-200-سال-باشد-گردنم-را-با-گيوتين-مي‌زنم

8) Nasrtv.com (Principlists Internet television)
https://www.aparat.com/v/XkZp6/دلایل_محکم_بر_عدم_وجود_کوروش

9)Ayatollah Asadollah Imani (Emam Jome Shiraz):
http://www.asriran.com/fa/news/568874/امام-جمعه-شیراز-مناسبت-جعلی-7-آبان-به‌-عنوان-روز-کوروش-منشا-توراتی-و-اسرائیلی-دارد

10)Mashreghnews.ir (Principlists News Outlet): Also read the comments
https://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/792408/فیلم-خدمات-بزرگ-کوروش-که-هیچ-وقت-به-ما-نگفتند

11) This one is epic:
http://www.yjc.ir/fa/news/5581978/پخت-رب-گوجه-فرنگی-در-جوار-مقبره-کوروش-با-امضای-یک-مدیر-جزء


Should I go on?
 
With all due respect, Why you two act like what i said is new? As if the nonsense i posted about Iranian history for the last 12 hours wasn't said already by IRI officials for the past 40 years.

1)Mohammed Sadeq Givi Khalkhali, Chief Justice of the revolutionary courts:
Khalkhali was known for his antipathy towards pre-Islamic Iran. In 1979 he wrote a book "branding king Cyrus the Great a tyrant, a liar, and a homosexual" and "called for the destruction of the Tomb of Cyrus and remains of the two-thousand-year-old Persian palace in Shiraz, Fars Province, the Persepolis." According to an interview by Elaine Sciolino of Shiraz-based Ayatollah Majdeddin Mahallati, Khalkhali came to Persepolis with "a band of thugs" and gave an angry speech demanding that "the faithful torch the silk-lined tent city and the grandstand that the Shah had built," but was driven off by stone-throwing local residents.

What's the difference between this guy and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadegh_Khalkhali
https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/صادق_خلخالی
http://tarikhirani.ir/fa/files/15/bodyView/151/کوروش.به.روایت.خلخالی:.دروغین.و.جنایتکار،.جاه‌طلب.و.عیاش.html

2)Morteza Motahhari on Norooz and Chaharshanbe Suri:
https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/چهارشنبه‌سوری#منتقدان_چهارشنبه‌سوری

3) Hassan Abbasi, The Kissinger of Islam: Cyrus was a Zionist
http://roshangari.ir/video/51504

4)Hamed Zamani, The Principlists singer:
https://www.khabaronline.ir/detail/487232/culture/music
https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/حامد_زمانی

5)Hossein Allahkaram (Head of Ansar-e-Hezbollah gang)
http://www.asriran.com/fa/news/508166/حسین-الله‌کرم-کوروش-وجود-خارجی-ندارد-ﭼﺮﺍ-ﺩﺭ-ﺗﺎﺭﯾﺦ-ﻭ-ﺍﺩﺑﯿﺎﺕ-ﺍﯾﺮﺍﻥ-ﻧﺎﻣﯽ-ﺍﺯ-ﮐﻮﺭﻭﺵ-ﻧﯿﺴﺖ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hossein_Allahkaram

6)Grand Ayatollah Hossein Noori-Hamedani:
http://fararu.com/fa/news/294239/انتقاد-آیت‌الله-نوری-همدانی-از-مراسم-مزار-کوروش
http://fa.euronews.com/2016/10/30/reax-to-thousands-of-iranians-gather-in-pasargadae-tomb-of-cyrus

7)Hossein Ravazadeh
http://aftabnews.ir/fa/news/164049/اگر-عمر-منشور-كوروش-بيش-از-200-سال-باشد-گردنم-را-با-گيوتين-مي‌زنم

8) Nasrtv.com (Principlists Internet television)
https://www.aparat.com/v/XkZp6/دلایل_محکم_بر_عدم_وجود_کوروش

9)Ayatollah Asadollah Imani (Emam Jome Shiraz):
http://www.asriran.com/fa/news/568874/امام-جمعه-شیراز-مناسبت-جعلی-7-آبان-به‌-عنوان-روز-کوروش-منشا-توراتی-و-اسرائیلی-دارد

10)Mashreghnews.ir (Principlists News Outlet): Also read the comments
https://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/792408/فیلم-خدمات-بزرگ-کوروش-که-هیچ-وقت-به-ما-نگفتند

11) This one is epic:
http://www.yjc.ir/fa/news/5581978/پخت-رب-گوجه-فرنگی-در-جوار-مقبره-کوروش-با-امضای-یک-مدیر-جزء


Should I go on?
I can't believe amount of your Ignorant.
You can not even see sun in the sky.
 
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