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Like I said, stop corporating words which do not relate to you? Hamar or Hamor is an Arabic word commonly used in Maghribi states referring to humans are donkeys. You said you speak Haryanvi and as far as I'm concerned it sounds like another Bhaiyya language (northernmost dialect of Hindi) - compared to what I speak (Jalalabadi to be specific).

You mentioned Bewakoof, be is a prefix in Persian, it's not a word native to Haryanvi. If you were a urdu speak, understandable.



Like I said, stop corporating words which do not relate to you? Hamar or Hamor is an Arabic word commonly used in Maghribi states referring to humans are donkeys. You said you speak Haryanvi and as far as I'm concerned it sounds like another Bhaiyya language (northernmost dialect of Hindi) - compared to what I speak (Jalalabadi to be specific).

You mentioned Bewakoof, be is a prefix in Persian, it's not a word native to Haryanvi. If you were a urdu speak, understandable.
Urdu is part of our culture you nasamaj. Don't comment on things you don't know about, Bangladeshi. You people rejected Urdu, so stfu
 
Urdu is part of our culture you nasamaj. Don't comment on things you don't know about, Bangladeshi. You people rejected Urdu, so stfu

Urdu is certainly not part of your culture you stupid Bhaiyya. Urdu was created for the muslims of subcontinent. Do you realise how many Bengalis contributed to Urdu lit? Most notably Ubaidullah Al Ubaidi (grandson is Huseyn Suhrwardy) and Sahih Bukhari was translated into Urdu by Bengali mashaykh. You stupid, stupid man. How could you say such a thing?
 
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You stupid man. It does not make sense, it's not your culture, it was not coined, now if you were a Punjabi then it would make sense. A sher-e-Punjab makes sense as a reference to their valour, courage and same for Bengal where certain officers or politicians were recgonised for their administration skills.
Are you on hashish or what? There is a thing called "loanword". Urdu itself consists of thousands of loanwords from various languages. Why would Haryanvi be an exception. Haryanvis have no problems conversing with Urdu or Punjabi speakers in a casual conversation. So stfu

Urdu is certainly not part of your culture you stupid Bhaiyya. Urdu was created for the muslims of subcontinent. Do you realise how many Bengalis contributed to Urdu lit? Most notably Ubaidullah Al Ubaidi (grandson if Huseyn Suhrwardy) and Sahih Bukhari was translated into Urdu by Bengali mashaykh. You stupid, stupid man. How could you say such a thing?
Bangladeshi calling Haryanvi Bhaiyya lol.

You Bangladeshis rejected Urdu in 1952 while other Pakistanis accepted it, so stfu. You people even took help from "enemy" India to defeat Pakistan after back-stabbing them. I mean have some shame its not like you haven't brought enough upon yourselves already
 
Are you on hashish or what? There is a thing called "loanword". Urdu itself consists of thousands of loanwords from various languages. Why would Haryanvi be an exception. Haryanvis have no problems conversing with Urdu or Punjabi speakers in a casual conversation. So stfu

You've proved my point. Loanwords, you try to show off with a few Parsi words which actually aren't native to your base language what so ever. It's like me saying in Bengali; Be-kuf, Be-tasir, Be-haya, Be-shorom, Bod billay, etc Be is a persian prefix. It's nothing extroadinary. Vocab would be the same considering both languages are part of the Indo Aryan family branch.
 
Are you on hashish or what? There is a thing called "loanword". Urdu itself consists of thousands of loanwords from various languages. Why would Haryanvi be an exception. Haryanvis have no problems conversing with Urdu or Punjabi speakers in a casual conversation. So stfu


Bangladeshi calling Haryanvi Bhaiyya lol.

You Bangladeshis rejected Urdu in 1952 while other Pakistanis accepted it, so stfu. You people even took help from "enemy" India to defeat Pakistan after back-stabbing them. I mean have some shame its not like you haven't brought enough upon yourselves already

My language has a rich history, where as yours as you stated is the Haryanvi language doesn't even come close. I can chest thump all I want, I have the right too. Bengal has been through enough turmoil because of pride, rebellion/political strife has always been a component of Bangladesh and Bengal. We created our own militias, young boys from the age of 11 partaken in guerilla warfare. These men are now older than you and I. @maroofz2000 can talk about this.

Furthermore if Persian was to be incorporated from the get go, there would be no problem. Iranic academics/scholars recognise Bengal as the easternmost region as a heavily persian influenced area and consider it part of the persian world in some respect. Arabs weren't the invaders, it was Turkic or partially Turkic races.

However Bengalis are still TOO proud of their native culture, only some people admire external influences.

http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/bengal

In addition a whole book as has been written by Richard Maxwell Eaton of Hudson Cress.
 
My language has a rich history, where as yours as you stated is the Haryanvi language doesn't even come close. I can chest thump all I want, I have the right too. Bengal has been through enough turmoil because of pride, rebellion/political strife has always been a component of Bangladesh and Bengal. We created our own militias, young boys from the age of 11 partaken in guerilla warfare. These men are now older than you and I. @maroofz2000 can talk about this.
Tell me then why did you guys reject your pyara Islamic language Urdu when other groups in Pakistan accepted it? Why did you betray your Pakistani brethren in '71 and even enlisted our help to fight against Pakistanis. You didn't answer that question and instead trying to deflect attention to non issues. Or it could be that you have no answer.
 
Tell me then why did you guys reject your pyara Islamic language Urdu when other groups in Pakistan accepted it? Why did you betray your Pakistani brethren in '71 and even enlisted our help to fight against Pakistanis. You didn't answer that question and instead trying to deflect attention to non issues. Or it could be that you have no answer.

The reply you made to the initial post is the answer. In no way did I say Urdu is my language, or my native language, it's a language created to serve the Muslims of the subcontinent. Not a Sikh & not a Hindu.

Do you know how many times 1971 has been discussed on this part of the forum? Do I really need to go there again? BD posters will agree with me that this topic has been recycled. Anyway, am I speak to a munafiq, most probably, it was your connving and meddling nature which broke up two parts, meddling in affairs what you guys are good at.

I would tell you take a visit on wiki but then the authors of those pages are infested with Bhaiyyas.
 
The reply you made to the initial post is the answer. In no way did I say Urdu is my language, or my native language, it's a language created to serve the Muslims of the subcontinent. Not a Sikh & not a Hindu.
That is not what I asked. I asked when other ethnic groups of Pakistan accepted Urdu even though it wasn't their mother tongue, why were Bangladeshis the only ones averse to it? If you people really loved Islamic culture and language that much you wouldn't have given preference to Hindu language Bengali which is heavily Sanskritised, compared to Urdu which was the carrier of Islamic culture of the subcontinent. Even Bengali culture is predominantly Hindu. Giving preference to that culture over West Pakistani Islamic culture doesn't really support your Islamiyat. On top of that Bangladeshi Muslim women wearing Bindi which is a Hindu religious symbol lol. So much for Islamiyat.
 
That is not what I asked. I asked when other ethnic groups of Pakistan accepted Urdu even though it wasn't their mother tongue, why were Bangladeshis the only ones averse to it? If you people really loved Islamic culture and language that much you wouldn't have given preference to Hindu language Bengali which is heavily Sanskritised, compared to Urdu which was the carrier of Islamic culture of the subcontinent. Even Bengali culture is predominantly Hindu. Giving preference to that culture over West Pakistani Islamic culture doesn't really support your Islamiyat. On top of that Bangladeshi Muslim women wearing Bindi which is a Hindu religious symbol lol. So much for Islamiyat.

And I said, my initial post answered that. Bengalis are too proud. Same as Afghan Pakhtoons are about pashtunwali. You obviously don't know my stance regarding 1971..Language movement was only one part of the war. Economic, administrative and many other things were part of the liberation war. I believe the language proposal was inconsiderate. So no point asking me that question. Tell me, why is Urdu your language.? Why do you feel you are the inheritor of Urdu, Do you read the Quran using the nastaliq system of pesh, zobor, zer, dui-pesh, etc? Which has been used in Bengal since the advent of Islam...
 
My language has a rich history, where as yours as you stated is the Haryanvi language doesn't even come close. I can chest thump all I want, I have the right too. Bengal has been through enough turmoil because of pride, rebellion/political strife has always been a component of Bangladesh and Bengal. We created our own militias, young boys from the age of 11 partaken in guerilla warfare. These men are now older than you and I. @maroofz2000 can talk about this.

Furthermore if Persian was to be incorporated from the get go, there would be no problem. Iranic academics/scholars recognise Bengal as the easternmost region as a heavily persian influenced area and consider it part of the persian world in some respect. Arabs weren't the invaders, it was Turkic or partially Turkic races.

However Bengalis are still TOO proud of their native culture, only some people admire external influences.

http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/bengal

In addition a whole book as has been written by Richard Maxwell Eaton of Hudson Cress.

Even in 1000s years of Indian Muslim history Urdu was never used in Bengal. Even under Mogul Farsi was used. There was a reason for that. Muslim rulers were not idiots.. did they?
 
Even in 1000s years of Indian Muslim history Urdu was never used in Bengal. Even under Mogul Farsi was used. There was a reason for that. Muslim rulers were not idiots.. did they?

Because they were Bengali Muslim sultans.
 
And I said, my initial post answered that. Bengalis are too proud. Same as Afghan Pakhtoons are about pashtunwali. You obviously don't know my stance regarding 1971..Language movement was only one part of the war. Economic, administrative and many other things were part of the liberation war. I believe the language proposal was inconsiderate. So no point asking me that question. Tell me, why is Urdu your language.? Why do you feel you are the inheritor of Urdu, Do you read the Quran using the nastaliq system of pesh, zobor, zer, dui-pesh, etc? Which has been used in Bengal since the advent of Islam...
You didn't answer my question- why did you people adopt Bengali culture which is Hindu culture. Why did Bangladeshi women wear Bindis which are Hindu religious symbols making them haram in Islam- where was your Islamiyat then? If you don't have any answer then stfu.

Haryanvis speak Hindustani. It is mutually intelligible with colloquial Urdu. Anyways I am not answerable to you which language I choose to use, its completely my choice. We don't oppose languages like Bangladeshis
 
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