Bangladesh Air Force

[Avicenna]

BAF sets the technical criteria and carries out technical evaluation of tender propsals but decision making is influenced by lobbyists.

Procurement decisions need A-ok from MoD, MoF, and PMO.


Ideally, I would like to see 4 squadrons of Gripens (or 3 x Gripen + 1 × EFT) to gradually replace the entire existing fleet.

Bangladesh doesn't need and can't afford a large fleet of modern fighters.

Realistically, all that's needed are 32-48 examples.

Even that is expensive.

But that equates to 2-3 full strength squadrons. (Western sourced with Western training)

A major boost in capability from where things are now.

 

[Michael Corleone]

And then there is another mofo named hridoy mahbub... that idiot says that if pak buys J10 then it means China is dumping their "leftover" J10s on pak and calling pak "shameless dumping ground"...that moron forgot that our navy is the one buying 2nd hand Chinese frigates,so what does that make BN ?
Sorry for derailing this thread but couldn't hold myself

Yeah that teen faggot hates Pakistan for reasons that doesn’t make sense. It’s just he has to have excuses to hate Pakistan

 

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Does it make sense to do so with JF-17 Block III already in production?

Considering India with both qualitative and quantitative edge with it's platforms, it does.

Go through the last ten pages of the following thread to read members rationalizing the potential procurement.

New fighter for PAF Doctrine?

I'd trust @Ark_Angel, @kursed and @PAR 5. If 2 out of 3 of them say 'yes' to something, it's probably true. If all 3 do it, then it's certainly true. I'm leaning on 'probably' in that it's true, but not a certainty until they land in Pakistan (as the PAF had nixed such deals in the past). On a...

defence.pk

Unlike BAF, Pakistan's relationship with U.S. is very very complicated to say the least. It seems PAF blinked first while competing with BAF at who has the most patience to procure foreign aircrafts.

 

[Michael Corleone]

It looks like Pakistan Air Force will be going for J10C in big numbers. I was expecting
Bangladesh to go for them. Pakistan will replace some Mirages and all F16's with the J10's.

You sure? Where’s the post to this?

 

[Avicenna]

Considering India with both qualitative and quantitative edge with it's platforms, it does.

Go through the last ten pages of the following thread to read members rationalizing the potential procurement.

Unlike BAF, Pakistan's relationship with U.S. is very very complicated to say the least. It seems PAF blinked first while competing with BAF at who has the most patience to procure foreign aircrafts.

Off topic, but new build airframes with from a reliable source can't be a bad thing.

It's only logical that J-10 would find itself in PAF. (of course with the usual Pakistani spiced improvements added)

 

[alphapak]

Does it make sense to do so with JF-17 Block III already in production?

PAF operates both light weight (JF17) and medium weight (F16) aircrafts, the problem
is that the Americans will not give the latest block of F16's to PAF.

PAF also needs J10's with aesa + PL15 along side the JF17's. PAF needs to counter the 36
Rafales that India has bought, India will most likely order another 36 Rafales.

 

[ziaulislam]

Does it make sense to do so with JF-17 Block III already in production?

J10 is 50% larger then jf17
Its been inducted because PAF has lost all hopes on getting new or used f16s
BAF should get a single jet with MRO facility to ensure max reliability

Gripen is perfect for that

 

[alphapak]

You sure? Where’s the post to this?

New fighter for PAF Doctrine?

They are expensive indeed. I was speaking in terms of capability though. They also have a better future outlook than the Rafale with more countries flying them and Germany's recent order of 38 (planned buy of 90+) in addition to what they already have. Either way, a squadron or two worth of...

defence.pk

At the moment it is not confirmed but it looks like China and Pak have done a deal.

 

[Michael Corleone]

New fighter for PAF Doctrine?

They are expensive indeed. I was speaking in terms of capability though. They also have a better future outlook than the Rafale with more countries flying them and Germany's recent order of 38 (planned buy of 90+) in addition to what they already have. Either way, a squadron or two worth of...

defence.pk

At the moment it is not confirmed but it looks like China and Pak have a deal.

Good to see this. Maybe the ballless airchief’s in bd will make up their mind and follow Pakistan’s path

 

[alphapak]

Good to see this. Maybe the ballless airchief’s in bd will make up their mind and follow Pakistan’s path

I hope BAF goes for Gripen and J10's, that way they have both light and mediuum weight
fighters.

 

[Michael Corleone]

I hope BAF goes for Gripen and J10's, that way they have both light and mediuum weight
fighters.

Fingers crossed. Some of us speculated correctly what they were after but backed out for some reason. We just lost hope and now hoping they buy at least 16 of anything other than trainers

 

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Off topic, but new build airframes with from a reliable source can't be a bad thing.

It's only logical that J-10 would find itself in PAF. (of course with the usual Pakistani spiced improvements added)

We would have chosen more F-16s and upgrading the ones in inventory to V standard over inducting a new platform for which we need new infrastructure, training, maintenance, etc which would increase cost for absorbing. We will also need some years to fully operationalize them into our net-centric environment.
But, we can't wait any further for nod by Uncle Sam cause the writing's on the wall. Pakistan and India are in due of conflict.

Fingers crossed. Some of us speculated correctly what they were after but backed out for some reason. We just lost hope and now hoping they buy at least 16 of anything other than trainers

Maybe that was the plan from the start. Now that people are sick of BAF's procurement progress, they won't get much protest if they induct Tejas.
(Mind blown) [JK]

 

[alphapak]

Fingers crossed. Some of us speculated correctly what they were after but backed out for some reason. We just lost hope and now hoping they buy at least 16 of anything other than trainers

They should go for both maybe start 16 of each, that way they are not relying on 1 country.

 

[Michael Corleone]

We would have chosen more F-16s and upgrading the ones in inventory to V standard over inducting a new platform for which we need new infrastructure, training, maintenance, etc which would increase cost for absorbing. We will also need some years to fully operationalize them into our net-centric environment.
But, we can't wait any further for nod by Uncle Sam cause the writing's on the wall. Pakistan and India are in due of conflict.

Wouldn’t it be easier for pk to acquire j10? Since they have jf17 ammunition’s etc? As for f16s... can’t their infrastructure be converted to j10s?

 

[PDF]

Wouldn’t it be easier for pk to acquire j10? Since they have jf17 ammunition’s etc? As for f16s... can’t their infrastructure be converted to j10s?

Ammunition and weapons are just a part of it. And even then, we will have to integrate other weapon systems such as Aselpod etc. And the pilots need to be get familiar with J 10 and develop tactics all of which takes time. Engine is different, the ground staff has to be trained.

And for the latter part of the question, the answer is unfortunately no because the F-16s will keep on flying for a good score or even more in PAF.