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Army now holding 30 dominating heights, earlier unoccupied, on southern bank of Pangong Tso

Unclaimed territory? Are you sure?
You have put your forces on a few tops that are inside your claim line and Chinese never occupied those.

It's like you are inside your home, and installing few more locks on the door because you fear that someone standing in your garden (which he has recently claimed and occupied) may break in.
The whole area is disputed. Doesn’t matter what each party thinks.
I am speaking from the Chinese perspective. If India is lying about the “claims”, then we have planted a flag where there wasn’t one. Let’s try and isolate the narrative here, it’s either Indian territory or Chinese territory or an unclaimed territory. It definitely is disputed. Let’s start from there. The area has always been disputed on paper, which serves Chinese designs. By escalating the situation, the Chinese have done a Hail Mary and committed. Each party now has to bring to bear the goods to back their claims.
A better analogy would be to imagine adjacent plots of land with unclear demarcations, and contesting claims of plot sizes by the two owners who don’t really live on the plot and have houses in the city and have fought for so long that one owner has started building a boundary wall. The other has to escalate or accept what’s left outside the boundary wall as his.
 
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Lol if it was all about Chinese products market in India then they would not have started this in the first place.
China is a huge monster and Indian market loss doesn't make any difference to Chinese economy. Land and strategic ladakh matters everything to them so they are willing to sacrifice all exports to India for it.
Evening after pushing back a little bit they are still holding so called Indian land and obviously it's not over yet. The August fifth decision sowed the seeds of a long term conflict and it will get worse with each and every passing month.
Of course it makes a difference. There must be multiple centers of power even in China. Why is the Chinese Govt saying this -


It should say "it doesn't make a difference" like you claim.
 
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No anti-Chinese moderators have moderated the Chinese Defence Forum. It has always been @Deino, @TaiShang, @cnleio for a very long time ... I'm not sure what you're talking about.

There is a difference though. The Chinese have been capturing occupied or previously occupied Indian hills/territories/patrol points. India, OTOH, has been capturing hills that the Chinese have never even occupied. It looks like to me that India has learned the mistakes at Galwan (at least partially) and avoided trying to eject the PLA from occupied positions directly. Well done India.
LOL! We have captured several points that we never patrolled after 1962. We are celebrating our victory, although partial.

You are just justifying your loss :lol:
 
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This assessment is accurate. Climbing to unmanned peaks is only useful immediately before an offensive push. In other situations, sitting there is a drain on logistics resources and India is not a rich country to be playing that game. The conclusion one must draw is India is posturing to launch a major offensive into Chinese territory.
This clearly shows your utter inexperience in fighting in hilly terrain.

We are clearly looking at all your movements like an eagle from the above. We have sufficient arms stocked up. Any wrong move and your army men are just sitting ducks :lol:
 
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This clearly shows your utter inexperience in fighting in hilly terrain.

We are clearly looking at all your movements like an eagle from the above. We have sufficient arms stocked up. Any wrong move and your army men are just sitting ducks :lol:
Just mentioning that two of our destroyer are in SCS and patrolling with American fleet.
 
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India occupies heights within its own held territory and Indians on PDF go all gung ho here :rofl:. No one can win from Indian in a internet Fart off.
 
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India occupies heights within its own held territory and Indians on PDF go all gung ho here :rofl:. No one can win from Indian in a internet Fart off.
Won't you celebrate if you get back Siachin? You can't and never will get that feeling. This is beyond your imagination.
 
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So india has put soldier on heights on its side of the border and that's a victory?
 
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Won't you celebrate if you get back Siachin? You can't and never will get that feeling. This is beyond your imagination.

Well if we ever celebrate it will be over a real victory. Unlike Indians who declare smelling their own farts as victory.
 
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Well if we ever celebrate it will be over a real victory. Unlike Indians who declare smelling their own farts as victory.
You celebrated after 1971 so we expect anything and everything from you.
 
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You celebrated after 1971 so we expect anything and everything from you.

1971 was a civil war you Indians claim it as your victory like Begani shadi mein Barhamin deewana. Ladakh is a perfect example of how you Indians claim your victories. Then again you also killed 300-400 terrorists in Balakot inside a Madrassa which cant even house more than 10 students so anything is possible for you Indians.
 
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1971 was a civil war you Indians claim it as your victory like Begani shadi mein Barhamin deewana. Ladakh is a perfect example of how you Indians claim your victories. Then again you also killed 300-400 terrorists in Balakot inside a Madrassa which cant even house more than 10 students so anything is possible for you Indians.
There would be no military force in the world which could have defended East Pakistan in 1971. The Indians can only win against completely isolated and outnumbered opponents, whether it be 1971 or against the Portuguese in 1961.
 
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There would be no military force in the world which could have defended East Pakistan in 1971. The Indians can only win against completely isolated and outnumbered opponents, whether it be 1971 or against the Portuguese in 1961.

Its already been half a century since we lost East Pakistan. Pakistanis and Bangladeshis have gotten over it but Indians are still stuck in the Past victories. They always quote 1971 but forget their humiliation in 1965 and 1962 wars. They also forget how we snatched Azad Kashmir from its India occupiers. They also forget that in 2001 India Pakistan stand off Indians lost nearly 2000 soldiers without even getting a chance to march on our border. They forget to tell you that Indians have lost 1100 soldiers on Siachin just for sake of their ego otherwise there is nothing of value in siachin. Indians have a selective memory no one can win against them when they get hell bent on brain farting so just ignore them.
 
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The August fifth decision sowed the seeds of a long term conflict and it will get worse with each and every passing month.
But will it get better for the chinese with each passing decade though .They have made it clear now that they are our enemies . In about 2-3 decades India will still be there , capable enough to not only take back aksai chin but also liberate Tibet . Both LOC and LAC are very close and infra will be ready by then for seamless fast connectivity between the two borders . How far is tibet and xinjiang from the population centers of china ? .
Obviously we will have to wait to find out
 
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