your post even agrees my points further LMAO !
just talk to all modern
genealogists .
"Neolithic" or pre "High civilisation" middle east
is a mixture of Iran_N , Anatolia_N and Natufian.
THe Natufians themselves are also close related to Iran_N and Anatolia_N.
"Semitic" is a culture that was created by those mixed Natufians-Iran_N-Anatolia_N people who lived there
not race , same goes to ARABS !
Also that Arabs was a small tribe from Yemen originally is not "Oral history"
its proven facts, agreed by modern arab genealogists
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribes_of_Arabia
"Did Arabs originate from Yemen?
The
Arab genealogies agree the original pure
Arabs, "Al-
Arab al-Ariba" (العرب العاربة), came from
Yemen and were descended from Ya'rub bin Yashjub bin Qahtan, a descendant of hud and were Qahtanite
Arabs."
the only people who are pure Arabs are those in those regions of Yemen who are ironically today under Houthi rule.
The Yemenis are the "Boss" of all modern Arabs, because it was a small tribe from Yemen which conquered saudi arabia and "ARabized" most of Semits.
so its no wonder that the Arab coalition could not beat the Houthis (the original Arabs)
Dude, indeed, all the main haplogroups of the Arab world, entire Middle East, Caucasus and Southern Europe originate in the Arab world. As does the first Neolithic farmers who are most closely related to modern day Arabs whose lands they originated from as I proved already by posting genetic evidence. Shocking, I know.
It is actually our ancestors who populated Iran and Anatolia, not the other way around. As I already proved. I don't care what some people call them. Anatolian, Iranian, Semitic, Arab, West Asian, Middle Eastern, Caucasian etc.
Once again, the first people who inhabited the entire Middle East, Europe etc. were originally from Arabia/Arab world. Long before even Neolithic people emerged which every human migration pattern confirms.
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-42817323
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2011/11/ancient-tools-point-early-human-migration-arabia
https://www.shh.mpg.de/1101697/hominin-migrations-into-green-arabia
You are at it again embarrassing yourself.
There is no such thing as "original" Arabs. Arabs were just one Semitic speaking group native to the Arab world (Arab Near East). They were/are a Central/Northern Semitic speaking group. Who were first recorded in the borderlands of Northern Arabia, Sham and Mesopotamia. A region with no geographical barriers.
The Qathani/Adnani split has long ago been debunked. It is not even worth discussing. Majority of Yemen prior to Islam did not speak Arabic but other closely related languages. This is a well-established fact.
Actually that is Hijazis.
Anyway what importance does it has where Arabs were first mentioned or some ancient fables? We Arabs are all natives of the land, all Semites, all Middle Easterners/West Asians/Northern Africans, we share the same haplogroups, are genetically connected, culturally, linguistically, geographically, historically, civilization wise, customs, religions etc.
Ancient history this far back (3000 + years) is shrouded in mystery. What matters in this context is that the Semitic urheimat (homeland) is the Arab Near East, Arabia being the most likely candidate which is where ancient Semitic peoples such as Akkadians, Babylonians, Assyrians, Phoenicians and many others originated from and wrote about themselves. As did the Sumerians (Dilmun) who might not have been Semitic speaking peoples but once again native to the region and sons of the soil.
Anyway it is hard to have serious discussions with a person who believes that Iranians are "Aryans" and descendants of Central Asian steppe/desert nomads, when DNA, history and everything else proves that this is not the case aside from the small ruling elite that imposed Iranic languages on the natives.
This is no different to Arabs believing that they are all from Yemen (lol) and that they have no other Semitic admixture from ancestors who were natives of the soil. It is absurd.
Anyway
@Rukarl there is no point discussing this. It is a well-established fact that Iranians cluster with Arabs as I already proved and the reason for that (mainly) is the simply fact that all people (natives) of the Middle East/West Asia cluster with each other and share the same haplogroups largely. What you call "Iranian admixture" among Kurds in Iraq is actually ancient West Asian admixture which again is mostly Neolithic in origin and we all know where the Neolithic people originated and that was in the Arab world and we also know which modern populations those Neolithic mummies (Natufian for instance) cluster with the most and those are Arabs, with Saudi Arabians being number 1 according to that recent DNA test.
As for the Yemen part;
In Pre-Islamic times most of Yemen spoke Southern Arabian (Southern Semitic) languages. They still exist to this day in parts of Yemen and Oman. While those languages are related to Arabic, it is very hard for Arabic speakers to understand those people.
Arabic itself is a Central Semitic language native to what is modern-day KSA, Jordan, Southern Syria, and Southern and Western Iraq. This is also the region of the world were the oldest recordings of Arabic has been found and oldest recordings mentioning the name Arab (almost 3000 years ago).
Also have in mind that the difference between an Arabic speaking Semitic and an Aramaic speaking Semite of the region was minimal. Same people, same geography etc. Not a huge/massive geography either.
@
ArabianEmpires&Caliphates
most of your "Informations" are outdated.
This are the native races of the Middle East.
The only true "arabs" are those Proto-Arabids from Yemen,
just look at modern Houthi fighters they are clearly mostly Arabid and Proto Arabid.
While most of you other Arabs are a mixture of Anatolian and Iranian races +Natufian.
and also some little facts for you my friend, the "Aryans" or proto-indo-europeans the closest people to them are actually Iranians.
it has is reasons Iran is named "Land of Aryans"
This is a reconstruction of Proto-Indo-european from his skull found in the "Urheimat"
This is the oldest "Proto-Indo-European" ever found
just google " Proto-Indo-Europeans face reconstruction"
those people looked exactly like Modern IRGC commanders LoL !
while only the people around Yemen really look "Proto-Arabid"
you other Arabs are mostly a mix of Iranian Farmers,Anatolian Farmers and Natufian Farmers.
Those faces are made up by some teenagers on Youtube and have
zero academic value as well (
can't believe that I even need to write this) as your post which is complete and utter nonsense. No such thing as "Proto-Arabs" nor did they originate from Yemen nor did they/do they look like that nor does anyone know how they looked like exactly other than the artifacts we have and they do not look remotely like that which my video below in this thread confirms.
There is no such thing as "Proto-Arabids" and ZERO evidence (LOL) of them looking like that and Arabs are a Caucasian people and in fact the mutation that led to white/pale skin color originated in the Arab world as well.
You keep blabbering about imaginary Iranian and Anatolain farmers while those are merely Neolithic farmers from the Arab world as confirmed by DNA. They are our people, natives to our soil. Not yours. They migrated from us to you, not the other way around. As did humans in the first place.
And for your information, Proto-Europeans were dark-skinned people less than 5000 years ago.
https://www.theguardian.com/science...k-black-skin-cheddar-man-dna-analysis-reveals
First modern Britons had 'dark to black' skin, Cheddar Man DNA analysis reveals
This article is more than
1 year old
The genome of Cheddar Man, who lived 10,000 years ago, suggests that he had blue eyes, dark skin and dark curly hair
A forensic reconstruction of Cheddar Man’s head, based on the new DNA evidence and his fossilised skeleton. Photograph: Channel 4
LOL
White/pale skin is a fairly recent genetic mutation that occurred in the Arab world among later Neolithic farmers.
LOL. Talk about pseudoscience although the Arabid is the most normal looking alongside the Greek one.
As for 100 year old European racialist pseudo-science;
Physical appearance
The Arabid race is distinguished from the West-Mediterranean race by some minor characteristic facial traits. The Arabid physical type had in earlier times a broader-formed Syrid subtype, which was found among the farmers of the
Fertile Crescent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabid_race
Anyway no point wasting my time further and no you are not an "Aryan" but a native of the Iranian Plateau which is why you don't cluster with Iranic peoples such as Tajiks or Central Asian people.
As for Arabs, we are all closely related, and all natives of the soil, not sure how many times you need to be told this;
Here is more reading:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs#Genetics
Our closest genetic relatives are other Middle Eastern peoples, Caucasians, Europeans and to a smaller degree people from modern-day Pakistan/South Asians. There are no other Caucasian peoples in the world anyway so it makes sense as well. Add the Horners who have a large Arab/Semitic admixture, especially the beautiful Semitic speaking Habesha.
A recent genetic study published in the "European Journal of Human Genetics" in Nature (2019) showed that West Asians (Arabs) are closely related to Europeans, Northern Africans and South Asians.[453]
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