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AGM-114R multi-purpose Hellfire II missile for Pakistani Vipers

And what is the reason for that? Do you have a clue on it?
No it is not, please don't repeat the same thing again. AGM114R is the latest, single missile for all types of targets. Rather than having different inventories, logistics is improved by having only one type of missile.
I think my response from other thread will be appropriate here.
114L's Tandem warhead is what's effective against armored targets like a tank.

114R has a blast fragmentation warhead.
It's good against lightly armored vehicles, buildings and other soft targets.

On top of that, F&F capability is essential when engaging a conventional enemy. You can fire a hellfire and then lower the chopper behind a hill or tree. In semi active missiles you need to keep a lock till the missile hits the target, during the flight time your helicopter will remain exposed to enemy fire.

114R does not have F&F capability. It's semi active. It is the natural evolution of hellfire since it's very capable in COIN operations and USA was not fighting a conventional enemy. Don't know why it is semi active.

Also, "The AGM-114R is to replace the AGM-114K, M, N, and P variants of the Hellfire missile." Conveniently leaving out "L" longbow version.
Army and Lockheed Martin prepare for production of advanced laser-guided Hellfire missile - Military & Aerospace Electronics
Now the only question left would be why is US Army only buying AGM 114R's. That is because those are the only ones being used. US Army already possesses 14,000 AGM 114L's which are not being used. They are for use against a conventional threat whereas 114R's are perfect for COIN.
 
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I think my response from other thread will be appropriate here.

Now the only question left would be why is US Army only buying AGM 114R's. That is because those are the only ones being used. US Army already possesses 14,000 AGM 114L's which are not being used. They are for use against a conventional threat whereas 114R's are perfect for COIN.

And that response is misinformation when this comes into play. Better sources might help you post better information.
Which is why I insist that Arm Chair Generals be responded to their copy paste's with actual information from the most authentic of sources.

From the US Army's official program office for missile systems About PEO Missiles and Space
The PEO Missiles and Space provides centralized management for all Army air and missile defense and tactical missile programs as well as selected Army Space programs. The PEO is responsible for the full life-cycle management of assigned programs.

Some information on the AGM-114 R via a Lockheed Martin(who make the missile) presentation(who are unlikely to lie to the US Army, their customer).
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Arm Chair Generals, calling everyone else Arm Chair since the day internet debates began.

@Horus @Dazzler @Irfan Baloch @niaz @araz @Manticore @C130

for your reference in case you see anybody harp on the same "only good for CoIN" tune again.
 
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And that response is misinformation when this comes into play. Better sources might help you post better information.
Which is why I insist that Arm Chair Generals be responded to their copy paste's with actual information from the most authentic of sources.

From the US Army's official program office for missile systems About PEO Missiles and Space
The PEO Missiles and Space provides centralized management for all Army air and missile defense and tactical missile programs as well as selected Army Space programs. The PEO is responsible for the full life-cycle management of assigned programs.

Some information on the AGM-114 R via a Lockheed Martin(who make the missile) presentation(who are unlikely to lie to the US Army, their customer).
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Arm Chair Generals, calling everyone else Arm Chair since the day internet debates began.

@Horus @Dazzler @Irfan Baloch @niaz @araz @Manticore @C130

for your reference in case you see anybody harp on the same "only good for CoIN" tune again.
Are you saying and let me get it straight It is Anti Armor :woot::woot::woot:
 
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If a member says that pak hellfire missile isnt antitank, just guide him to this thread without derailing any other thread.
 
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First Live Warhead Flight for Lockheed Martin's Multi-Purpose Hellfire II Missile

ORLANDO, Fla., April 8 /PRNewswire/ -- Lockheed Martin's
multi-purpose AGM114R HELLFIRE II missile scored another success in its second proof-of-principle (POP) flight test, the first armed with a live warhead. The Rmodel, or "Romeo" missile, features a multi-purpose warhead that enables a single HELLFIRE missile to cover all of the target sets of the currently fielded laser-guided variants.

The POP 2 flight test, conducted at Eglin Air Force Base, FL, featured a lock-on-after-launch engagement of a stationary target board at 1.6 miles (2.5 km). The team used a ground-based laser designator to illuminate the target. The multi-purpose warhead was set with a delayed fuze that allows the missile to penetrate the target before detonating.

The missile was launched with a low trajectory suitable for a military operation in urban terrain scenario and struck the target board precisely designated by the laser aimpoint. The precursor warhead detonated on impact, while the primary warhead successfully detonated a short distance beyond the target.

"This test successfully demonstrates the Romeo's multi-purpose warhead and electronic safe, arm and fire, or ESAF, module, which provides the pilot-programmable delayed fuzing function," said Ken Musculus, director of Air-to-Ground Missile System programs at Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control. "It's an important milestone for the HELLFIRE program, bringing us one step closer to providing the Warfighter with one missile that can defeat hard, soft and enclosed targets. In this case, we tested the Romeo's ability to penetrate and then detonate within a target vehicle or structure, a critical capability against today's threats."

"Both the multi-purpose warhead and ESAF module are new to the HELLFIRE," Musculus said. "Video imagery of the test clearly shows these systems functioned exactly as designed."

The multi-purpose HELLFIRE II missile can be carried on both rotary-wing and UAV platforms, can be launched from higher altitudes—increasing the impact angle and enhancing stealth and lethality—and provides a wide engagement zone to properly equipped platforms, enabling them to target and fire upon targets to the side and behind them.

With more than 26,000 rounds produced for the U.S. and 15 international customers, HELLFIRE II has been successfully integrated with attack helicopters in the U.S. and many Allied fleets. It is also capable of surface launch from ground vehicles, tripods and small vessels. More than 10,000 HELLFIRE missiles have been successfully fired in combat.

Lockheed Martin performs all work on behalf of the HELLFIRE Systems, Limited Liability Company and will produce the missiles at its manufacturing facilities in Troy, AL, and Ocala, FL.

Headquartered in Bethesda, Md., Lockheed Martin is a global security company that employs about 140,000 people worldwide and is principally engaged in the research, design, development, manufacture, integration and sustainment of advanced technology systems, products and services. The Corporation reported 2009 sales of $45.2 billion.
First Live Warhead Flight for Lockheed Martin's Multi-Purpose Hellfire II Missile -- ORLANDO, Fla., April 8 /PRNewswire/ --
 
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How effective I mean How much damage this Missile can cause to let say a fully upgraded T-90 or T-72 of Indian Armed Forces ??? @Manticore
Woot woot! Now thats some question.
Can i ask an irrelevant question is it the first time we are buying hellfires?
 
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Maybe, but no chance of that happening. USA keeps all equipment under strict observation.
They cried murder when they suspected Harpoons were tampered with, ie weapons that were sold to us 30 years ago.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/30/world/asia/30missile.html
Well they were protesting under Arms Control Export Act,that disallows tampering. Honestly, hellfire missiles was one thing that i thought few months back usa would never sell us.
not to mention how many of them were tested on pakistani civilians using drones and perhaps in salala base attack too.

I doubt it. our policy has been be we don't sell our drones armed, but if you want to put our missiles on your domestic drones that might be okay

but anyhow Burraq already has a Chinese missile.
But usa had announced few months back that it will sell its armed drones. US to allow armed drone exports - BBC News
 
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Interesting, so Pakistan is getting only AGM-114R unlike India which is getting 812 AGM-114L-3 and 542 AGM-114R-3.

EDIT: That makes sense as India's Apaches will also get Longbow Radar unlike Pakistan's Vipers which will come without Longbow.
 
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Interesting, so Pakistan is getting only AGM-114R unlike India which is getting 812 AGM-114L-3 and 542 AGM-114R-3.

EDIT: That makes sense as India's Apaches will also get Longbow Radar unlike Pakistan's Vipers which will come without Longbow.

AGM-114R are used for Target such as: Bunkers, light vehicles, urban (soft) targets and caves--somthing pakistan army needed for Coin ops.
AGM-114L are used for armored threats..... which is india's primary requirement that is why india ordered 812 AGM-114L-3 and 542 AGM-114R-3...
 
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