Advantages and disadvantages of the FC-1 / JF-17 for BAF

[Bilal9]

Guys can we stop answering/tagging trolls? They have one singular goal, putting down everything about Bangladesh.

Let's realize that - and put these guys in your 'ignore' list. Click their profiles, then click 'ignore'.

Your PDF experience will be a lot smoother and enjoyable.

 

[desimorty]

Been through this before. The Rd engine won't give you the ability to actually use these birds in peace time for air traffic patrol. Wartime is useless. Indian Army would destroy them in war before they got off the ground. Also useless for training. Need ground sims. Too many problems. Musharaff himself saved it but it's black hole. Worse than the BrahMos JV. Since the BrahMos is actually usefull. Now if BD wanted options. Gripen Tejas f16 and upgrade your Migs. Best thing to do is get the Indians to upgrade the migs since they are doing it. Buy the Tejas and get Russian and French missiles.

 

[帅的一匹]

Been through this before. The Rd engine won't give you the ability to actually use these birds in peace time for air traffic patrol. Wartime is useless. Indian Army would destroy them in war before they got off the ground. Also useless for training. Need ground sims. Too many problems. Musharaff himself saved it but it's black hole. Worse than the BrahMos JV. Since the BrahMos is actually usefull. Now if BD wanted options. Gripen Tejas f16 and upgrade your Migs. Best thing to do is get the Indians to upgrade the migs since they are doing it. Buy the Tejas and get Russian and French missiles.

Tejas? My God, not again! @Bilal9

 

[rome333]

Been through this before. The Rd engine won't give you the ability to actually use these birds in peace time for air traffic patrol. Wartime is useless. Indian Army would destroy them in war before they got off the ground. Also useless for training. Need ground sims. Too many problems. Musharaff himself saved it but it's black hole. Worse than the BrahMos JV. Since the BrahMos is actually usefull. Now if BD wanted options. Gripen Tejas f16 and upgrade your Migs. Best thing to do is get the Indians to upgrade the migs since they are doing it. Buy the Tejas and get Russian and French missiles.

Been through this before. The Rd engine won't give you the ability to actually use these birds in peace time for air traffic patrol. Wartime is useless. Indian Army would destroy them in war before they got off the ground. Also useless for training. Need ground sims. Too many problems. Musharaff himself saved it but it's black hole. Worse than the BrahMos JV. Since the BrahMos is actually usefull. Now if BD wanted options. Gripen Tejas f16 and upgrade your Migs. Best thing to do is get the Indians to upgrade the migs since they are doing it. Buy the Tejas and get Russian and French missiles.

Pick up Tejas and Bullcrap in a Sack and Go sell somewhere else......
If need advise about BD Arm Force procurement Just ask Parikar.

 

[alaungphaya]

Guys can we stop answering/tagging trolls? They have one singular goal, putting down everything about Bangladesh.

Let's realize that - and put these guys in your 'ignore' list. Click their profiles, then click 'ignore'.

Your PDF experience will be a lot smoother and enjoyable.

In fairness to me I do call it right with most 'troll' post. If not for the 'trolls' you'd be in a weird echo chamber.

 

[Species]

Been through this before. The Rd engine won't give you the ability to actually use these birds in peace time for air traffic patrol. Wartime is useless. Indian Army would destroy them in war before they got off the ground. Also useless for training. Need ground sims. Too many problems. Musharaff himself saved it but it's black hole. Worse than the BrahMos JV. Since the BrahMos is actually usefull. Now if BD wanted options. Gripen Tejas f16 and upgrade your Migs. Best thing to do is get the Indians to upgrade the migs since they are doing it. Buy the Tejas and get Russian and French missiles.

You have actually quoted all the wrong options. The realistic options are Su 30 variants, Mig 35, Mig 29 variants, J-10 variants.

 

[~Phoenix~]

Well I will wait and see what happens I guess.

And grab some pop-corn while you're at that!

Wrong way round, champ. We bought 12 from Belarus in 2001 and 20 from Rosbonexport along with Mil-35's in 2009/10.

But still 12 MiG-29s with old tired airframes from Belarus.Thats about your level lol


Kira.

 

[My-Analogous]

World doesn't work like that. If Bangladesh agrees to give good price, china will sell j10s to BAF. It also depends if Bangladesh want in good numbers.
India lobby is strong in Bangladesh, so less chance of jf17 in Bangladesh colors.

Even less chance for J10 and any other good platform. India never want a good well equipped BAN army and will always try to stop them by any means.

 

[TopCat]

Even less chance for J10 and any other good platform. India never want a good well equipped BAN army and will always try to stop them by any means.

Dude, India will never risk antagonizing Bangladesh by openly protest any arms purchase from anybody, not even with Russians. India has a lot of stake in Bangladesh. What they will try is just offer an alternative.
Bangladesh can buy J-10 if it wish to as India does not have any stake with Chinese unlike Russians where they successfully blocked Pakistan to buy advanced weapons.

 

[Bilal9]

Tejas? My God, not again! @Bilal9

The less said about Tejas the better.....

I don't want to mention what Indian media itself says about Tejas.

The latest is when when the current and 23rd Chief of the Naval Staff of the Indian Navy (Lanba) himself spoke 'not so approvingly' about the Naval Tejas.

Amen.

 

[TopCat]

The less said about Tejas the better.....

I don't want to mention what Indian media itself says about Tejas.

The latest is when when the current and 23rd Chief of the Naval Staff of the Indian Navy (Lanba) himself spoke 'not so approvingly' about the Naval Tejas.

Amen.

That only prove that India is a dummy country. If they were smart they would had inducted Tejas long ago.

If you look back and see the inventory of PLAAF in 90's, not that impressive yet they learned from making their own planes.
India should follow the same path instead of buying Rafael and all.

 

[bd_4_ever]

The less said about Tejas the better.....

I don't want to mention what Indian media itself says about Tejas.

The latest is when when the current and 23rd Chief of the Naval Staff of the Indian Navy (Lanba) himself spoke 'not so approvingly' about the Naval Tejas.

Amen.

Now I understand why I always read it as Tej-A$$.

 

[desimorty]

You have actually quoted all the wrong options. The realistic options are Su 30 variants, Mig 35, Mig 29 variants, J-10 variants.

Su 30 is long range and requires a huge cash deposit and airbases that could hold big planes like cargo aircraft and bombers. They would be prime target for Indian Army or mynmar given the area of BD. MIG 29 is perfect medium providing short range take off even on damaged airstrips. The SU 30 requires longer airstrips. The j10 and jf17 can land on highways but the single engines from Russia will ensure that they are not good for training or new pilots. Hence why the plaaf prefer less training in actual air compared to flankers they have. You'll need ground sims to make up for this. J10 has take off time issues given the engine which jf17 doesn't have to worry about. But BD is not china. China has depth. BD is small. The fc-1 has range and payload issues. Your better off going to the Chinese or Israel's and getting them to upgrade ur j7s. The Gripen imo is the best bet. But if you want lower costs and make it political u can get Indians to sell you Tejas use different missiles and it's still a threat directed back at Indians. Plus you still have the Anita tire a lot closer to you. If I'm not wrong IAF did train ur falcrum pilots. So why not ask them to upgrade the falcrums like they did theirs. Remember the Indians payed for the upgrade falcrum program.
The j10 is not realistic except for plaaf whom has time on their side. BD does not have time in the event of a conflict.
He other option. AWACS. Ground radars and SAMs. Get either discounted Chinese missiles or Russian. But going french in this area would help. BD does not need flankers. Infact that would be horrible use of funds. You wouldn't have money left over for anything else.

 

[desimorty]

Even less chance for J10 and any other good platform. India never want a good well equipped BAN army and will always try to stop them by any means.

India trains some of ur officers including falcrum pilots. India doesn't give a damn because the only threat from BD are proxy actors or non state actors and those guys are threat to BD interests as well. Your assuming the Indian Army doesn't know the depth of BD. For God's sake BD is surrounded be India on all four sides. BDs conflict with Burma was dealt with India's support thanks to Aung Sun sue whom has been raised in India just like ur hassina.

 

[desimorty]

That only prove that India is a dummy country. If they were smart they would had inducted Tejas long ago.

If you look back and see the inventory of PLAAF in 90's, not that impressive yet they learned from making their own planes.
India should follow the same path instead of buying Rafael and all.

Assuming is stupid don't you think?
I mean a billion people in India and they can't get anything right aside for a mission to photo martians.