A few Siachen facts and bluffs!

[Shan-e-ibrahim]

Good that you understand that unless you have something viable to offer us, all talks are only going to be useless.

That's why I said. We do not believe in Diplomacy and Kashmir cannot be won with diplomacy. You do diplomacy and the result is stale mate which has helped us a lot.

We will either gain or it will be stale mate, your side you will either lose the territory or stale mate.

lured/heard whatever it is our voice is on the top ..... world looks at you with suspicion all the time it includes your sugar daddy.....

lmao we indians wasting our time????? we are advancing economically while dealing with other issues... you are pegged back at the same kashmir was occupied by India issue.

Lol at your obey thing...Look at germany, russia and japana and say the same. None of this works. stay netral play your cards well & hit at the right time .... while saying that it might not be a war i mean by hitting... it can be diplomacy, insurgency, painting you bad in the world ...

You are too deluded to understand all of this..... Pakistan can never catch India in the near future... the very islamic nature pegs you guys back... sorry to say this but this is a fact.

Keep doing that, this does not get you Azad Kashmir.

 

[GURU DUTT]

That's why I said. We do not believe in Diplomacy and Kashmir cannot be won with diplomacy. You do diplomacy and the result is stale mate which has helped us a lot.

We will either gain or it will be stale mate, your side you will either lose the territory or stale mate.

nanhe rajkumar but the fact of thematter is india wants to continue this so called (status que or stalmate in kashmir issue ) it is pakistan who is hurting itself in hope of changing the current stalemate andstus que over siachin and kashmir

and despite your nation going to war with india for 4 times and loosing half of its teritorry in 1971 and destrying its internal law and order and cultar to fund campain against india you had to lend your airbasses , miltarry bases , army , airforce and citizens to west, USA and sunni -whabbi arabs/saudies ....pakistan has ended up becoming a client state for every one i mentioned& despite heavy losses is still asked to do more and often gets branded as "sponsor of global terrorism, international migrane& failed state"

so tell me kid WHO IS LOOSING AND WHO IS WINNING

 

[Shan-e-ibrahim]

You are wrong. Hafeez Saeed, Lakhvi etc are just faces, if not them, someone else. The Indian state has worked very well to pressurize Pakistan on the terror issue & keep away from any talks involving Kashmir/Siachen etc. So much so that Pakistan only ends up pleading with all nations to ask India to talk to it & acts like it is a great victory if the Indian Foreign Secretary comes to Pakistan while visiting half a dozen countries. Time is on Indian side, always has been. The economic & military capacity has only widened post 1999. Where once there was talk about some sort of territorial concessions (even if unrealistic) from India (in the 1990's) & a withdrawal from Siachen on Pakistani terms, by 2004 Musharraf had come to the realisation that no territorial concessions would happen & the Musharraf-MMS talks were on that basis though there was a belief that a Siachen withdrawal could be worked out (peace park etc...). In 2015, there is even less on offer to Pakistan, that has been in place since the events of 26/11. Now there is no offer of any withdrawal from Siachen on the table which is why the Indian army chief was summarily & contemptuously dismissive of Gen.Kayani's request.

You were talking about wasting time, India is the status quo power and is quite happy to do nothing.

This resolves terrorism and is helping us as we have started knocking out bad faces on our soil. But in case of Kashmir, you are still behind LOC. What we do in Kashmir is support to freedom fighter via proxy war. Similarly your MI carries out strike in Gilgit via RF controlled toy bombs, but are less effective.

No one is waiting for India's offer inside Pakistan. We will do kargil in a new way, and you will end up in a stalemate again after deploying 30K soldiers. Our strategy is to poke you in Kashmir every decade with minimum force. We know that later on your leaders will call for seize fire

 

[Bang Galore]

That's why I said. We do not believe in Diplomacy and Kashmir cannot be won with diplomacy. You do diplomacy and the result is stale mate which has helped us a lot.

We will either gain or it will be stale mate, your side you will either lose the territory or stale mate.

Funny that you think that Pakistan has not lost anything. By every benchmark, you have suffered. You can suffer for however long you wish, nobody in India cares. Till you come up with a proposal that India would be interested in, we have no problems dealing with your guys. The recent incidents on the LoC & IB over the last year have definitely woken up your guys. There isn't a lull now by accident.

 

[Shan-e-ibrahim]

Good that you understand that unless you have something viable to offer us, all talks are only going to be useless.

We have only bullets

Funny that you think that Pakistan has not lost anything. By every benchmark, you have suffered. You can suffer for however long you wish, nobody in India cares. Till you come up with a proposal that India would be interested in, we have no problems dealing with your guys. The recent incidents on the LoC & IB over the last year have definitely woken up your guys. There isn't a lull now by accident.

There was a grenade attack in Kashmir injuring 14 people. Waking up your SF

 

[Bang Galore]

T We will do kargil in a new way, and you will end up in a stalemate again after deploying 30K soldiers. Our strategy is to poke you in Kashmir every decade with minimum force. We know that later on your leaders will call for seize fire

You will do a Kargil? Haven't done in the last 16 years, maybe it isn't as easy as you think. No more empty positions to occupy...? You should try it, our army could do with some practice.

We have only bullets

There was a grenade attack in Kashmir injuring 14 people. Waking up your SF

Injuring 14 people....? Oh boy! That's real scary.........

 

[Shan-e-ibrahim]

nanhe rajkumar but the fact of thematter is india wants to continue this so called (status que or stalmate in kashmir issue ) it is pakistan who is hurting itself in hope of changing the current stalemate andstus que over siachin and kashmir

and despite your nation going to war with india for 4 times and loosing half of its teritorry in 1971 and destrying its internal law and order and cultar to fund campain against india you had to lend your airbasses , miltarry bases , army , airforce and citizens to west, USA and sunni -whabbi arabs/saudies ....pakistan has ended up becoming a client state for every one i mentioned& despite heavy losses is still asked to do more and often gets branded as "sponsor of global terrorism, international migrane& failed state"

so tell me kid WHO IS LOOSING AND WHO IS WINNING

Land is important for us, and if we cannot take it, we will create such conditions that India's cannot utilize that land. And it is happening . Even in your media whenever there is a talk show on kashmir or a debate, few chaps start shouting article 370, fate of Kashmir, it's economy and tourism. Investment.. in the end next day there is a news of encounter going on in the region. Man, you guys are funny.

You will do a Kargil? Haven't done in the last 16 years, maybe it isn't as easy as you think. No more empty positions to occupy...? You should try it, our army could do with some practice.

We will give surprise. But I am sure, it will end up in stale mate , status quo .

 

[Shan-e-ibrahim]

lolwa @ injuring

so you wanted them to die? Amazing . Sick Indian mentality.

 

[Bang Galore]

Land is important for us, and if we cannot take it, we will create such conditions that India's cannot utilize that land. And it is happening . Even in your media whenever there is a talk show on kashmir or a debate, few chaps start shouting article 370, fate of Kashmir, it's economy and tourism. Investment.. in the end next day there is a news of encounter going on in the region. Man, you guys are funny.

Err.....
7,000 tourists land in Kashmir per day

Govt says 7,000 tourists land in Kashmir per day | Kashmir Reader

We will give surprise. But I am sure, it will end up in stale mate , status quo .

Obviously your army brass is more circumspect than you are.....

 

[Shan-e-ibrahim]

Err.....
7,000 tourists land in Kashmir per day

Govt says 7,000 tourists land in Kashmir per day | Kashmir Reader





Obviously your army brass is more circumspect than you are.....

Did you count? Do they also see neelam valley?

 

[GURU DUTT]

Land is important for us, and if we cannot take it, we will create such conditions that India's cannot utilize that land. And it is happening . Even in your media whenever there is a talk show on kashmir or a debate, few chaps start shouting article 370, fate of Kashmir, it's economy and tourism. Investment.. in the end next day there is a news of encounter going on in the region. Man, you guys are funny.


ok so your happyw with the fact thet since you are unable to get kashmir by any means you have made it unpeacefull and a laibity for us but we are still using its resources and have it with us we even have a BJP goverment in kashmir and we have siachin firmli in owr grasp sowhat did you achive rather look at your nation how it spilledover into pakistan look at klashnikov & drug culture u have to divert devlopment funds to sustain your army and war against india in kashmir and deu to that look at health issues , educational &social infra ,crunmbling economy and law and order, corruption ,begging for international aid & killing your own people for war remitences and coilation support funds


We will give surprise. But I am sure, it will end up in stale mate , status quo .

 

[Shan-e-ibrahim]

@lolligadu

haha where is Kashmir and where is Karachi. You have started a different discussion now LOL. many karachis happen in kashmir in one day

@GURU DUTT

Arre janab, Azad kashmir and Norther Areas is also Kashmir and it's with us, who said we did not manage to get Kashmir?

 

[Bang Galore]

Did you count? Do they also see neelam valley?

Don't need to count (the link is there) but the point is no one cares about the Pakistani threat. You can keep believing that Indians are under pressure in Kashmir, the very fact that such large numbers are going to Kashmir gives lie to that idea.

 

[Shan-e-ibrahim]

Don't need to count (the link is there) but the point is no one cares about the Pakistani threat. You can keep believing that Indians are under pressure in Kashmir, the very fact that such large numbers are going to Kashmir gives lie to that idea.

Yeah Yeah, that's why you are still unable to resettle your Pandits there.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Your signature:

"With the grace of Prophet Mohammed and Allah, almost all Hindus in Calicut are converted to Islam. Only on the borders of Cochin State a few are still not converted. I am determined to convert them also very soon. I consider this as Jehad to achieve that object." - Tipu

And someone like Tipu (a brave soul and a leader would) the job for us.

Actually Tipu did it for himself and for his faith. You had nothing to do with such forced conversions in Kerala.