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8 Chinese submarines approval & used western subs talks

honestly, eygpt received over 10 billion dollars in Aid and promise of over 13 billion dollars for new capital city..

for us jumping in will be suicide even if we get similar amount of $$$..because we have 10% shia population that is extremely loyal to Iran no matter what type of policies iran continue down the line..
People living in Pakistan and loyal to Iran/Saudia are problem. Pakistan interests are most important. While rest of Islamic World (except Iran,Syria,Iraq) is supporting Arab coalition then Pakistan must do the same...................
 
Chinese Type 041 Yuan Class Submarine




Chinese Type 041 Yuan Class SSK is a new generation of the People's Liberation Army Navy.



The Type 041 submarine uses the tail design of the Type 039 Song class SSK which have 4 diving planes.


Chinese Type 041 Yuan Class Submarine has six 533 mm torpedo tubes which can be used to launch torpedoes YJ-83 (C-803) anti-ship missiles.

YJ-83 (C-803) anti-ship missiles is equipped with 165 kg high-explosive warhead and it has a range of 180~250 km at a cruising speed of Mach 0.9.
 
sudden news about 8 subs and 4 frigates which together would add up to 2 - 3 billion USD
I wonder if we'll hear about more sudden major plans.
I would love to hear that Pakistan is buying new jets, destroyers. HELL YEAH :yahoo::woot::smitten::pakistan:

8 subs (Originally we're in negotiation for 6)

6 MPA's (Complete surprise)

4 Frigs ( old news just popped out of nowhere today)

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Meanwhile Army just approved to buy MI-35s.
3 Z-10s also landed ( supposedly free )


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Other major acquisitions this year 8 xCutter ships

90+ SH-1 SP guns.

Nurol Arnoured vehicles

Burraq

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Jf-17 BLK II

The fk.
Why you use F word well i am surprizingly happy abour it :woot:
 
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Is this S20 aka Type 041 SSK very noisy?

I learned Qing is more quieter than noisy Yuan.

Pakistan in talks with China 'for eight submarines'
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China is marketing the Type 041 SSK overseas as the S20. Source: IHS/Patrick Allen

The Pakistani government has approved the purchase of eight new submarines from China, senior Pakistan Navy officers told the National Assembly's defence committee on 31 March.

In 2011 the government revealed that the navy had begun discussions with China to buy six submarines, with the number of platforms subsequently raised to eight. Those discussions began after the Pakistan Navy stepped back from pursuing the purchase of three submarines from Germany on cost grounds.

The navy officials who spoke on 31 March neither revealed the type of boats to be ordered nor a likely price.

A Pakistani Foreign Ministry official told IHS Jane's that while he did not know which platform would be supplied to Pakistan, "in the recent past, there have been reports of discussions for the Type 041 submarines".

The Type 041 'Yuan' class is described by IHS Jane's Fighting Ships as a diesel electric attack submarine (SSK), potentially with Stirling air independent propulsion, that is armed with YJ-2 (YJ-82) anti-ship missiles and a combination of Yu-4 (SAET-50) passive homing and Yu-3 (SET-65E) active/passive homing torpedoes.

Since 2004 12 Type 041 submarines are believed to have been launched, while the US Department of Defense estimated in its May 2013 annual report to Congress on China's military that production could reach 20 ships. An export version, marketed as the S20 and unveiled in February 2013, displaces about 2,300 tonnes.

The PN is known to operate five French submarines: three Agosta 90B (Khalid-class) submarines purchased in the 1990s and two ageing Agosta 70 (Hashmat-class) boats dating from the late 1970s.

Lieutenant General Talat Masood (retd), who is now a commentator on defence affairs, told IHS Jane's it was "difficult to imagine a price of less than USD500 million per submarine, if not more". By comparison IHS Jane's DS Forecast notes that the Indian Navy is paying USD763 million per boat for six DCNS Scorpene SSKs.

Masood said that in view of the close defence collaboration that exists between China and Pakistan, Beijing was likely to extend a long-term loan, possibly at a low interest rate, to cover the cost of the Type 041s.

Pakistan in talks with China 'for eight submarines' - IHS Jane's 360
 
Government Of Pakistan gave approval to buy 8 submarines from China....

Also Talks are with UK Germany and France to buy used Submarines....

Saw this on SAMAA News Channel....

If true I expect more reaction from India. Should do the same to SCS nations . Including Taiwan . And help IRAN with our new futuristic war ships . Openly or covertly don't matter . Because when India work hard to buy weapons and we have our problems to be taken care of . But Chinese comes and keep giving freebies to Pakistan which openly choose the path of self destruction path. This 8 submarine will give Pakistan a much needed advantages over surprised Indian fleet groups
 
12 submarines or ships? And ATR......are they planning on buying 3 ATR on top of 2 already in service....or 3 in total?

Boat is a slang for subs. The ATR number is confusing as of now. The navy plan is to eventually replace all the F27s in its inventory with ATRs


Export designation S20. Cost estimate with western AIP and sensors 400 to 500 mill $ per boat
 
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