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27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

Indian terrorism against Pakistan

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Waqar Ahmed
December 22,2016


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While Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi claims that Pakistan is the hotbed of terrorism in the region, a look at India’s active role in the creation of Bangladesh is worth revealing.

The Bangladesh government has recently issued a gazette notification, defining the term ‘freedom fighter”. The definition has been finalised on the recommendation of Jatiya Muktijoddha Council. According to the notification, the following persons among others will be considered as the so-called freedom fighters: Who engaged in the war in response to the call of Sheikh Mujib-ur-Rehman between 26 March and 16 December 1971; those who were 13 years old on 26 March 1971 are eligible to apply for the status; those who crossed the border and received training in different Indian camps enlisting their names; professionals, including journalists, playing active role to build people’s supports abroad.

Needless to say the definition highlights a biased and lopsided approach of Haseena Wajid’s government towards the 1971’s tragic episode. The notification is part of the war launched by Mukti Bahini, created and supported by India, for dismemberment of Pakistan and creating hatred in the hearts and minds of Bengali people.

Mr Modi knows well and admitted to it that it was India that laid the foundation of cross-border terrorism. Before the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) was set up on 21 September 1968, the Indian Investigation Bureau (IB) was establishing Mukti Bahini. First, it set up the Mukti Fauj, then Sangram Parishad followed by Mukti Bahini. It is now well known that for the Mukti Bahini terrorists, the Indian Army operated training camps in the Indian states of West Bengal, Arunachal Pradesh, Bihar, Assam, Nagaland, Mizoram and Tripura. In late 1970, along with RAW and IB operatives, the Mukti Bahini had begun undertaking subversive activities in East Pakistan. If one checks newspapers of those days, one may find reports of blowing up of bridges, fuel depots, bank robberies, targeting of power plants and industries and killing of Pakistan armed forces personnel and non-Bengalis by the Mukti Bahini personnel aided by the Indian Army.

However, it should be noted that in 1971, the total number of Pakistani troops in East Pakistan was 34,000 and not 93,000 as claimed. Sharmila Bose in her book “Dead Reckoning” termed the number of killed as alleged by the BD government a gigantic rumor. The Hamoodur Rahman Commission Report considered even 26,000 dead as an exaggerated figure. Richard Sisson and Leo E. Rose in the book titled “War and Secession: Pakistan, India and the Creation of Bangladesh” and Gary Bass in his book “The Blood Telegram” clearly admit that the figures about so-called genocide were false.

Have a little pity on the poor old chap with high blood pressure. :-)
 
Could be IAF gave an SU30 pilot a MiG 21 so they could kinda guage the response and in worse case not lose a more expensive machine. As this whole thing was just meant to get Modi elected. So I doubt Indian Mil would want to lose expensive machine only for Modi.

And this Abhinanananandan had progressed through MiG and then onto Sukhoi
 
Let's see what @Vibrio says in this matter. Either possibility opens up its own concerns.


Tagging @AgNoStiC MuSliM

Unlikely.
IAF will remain on this side of LC. Weapons free, yes, otherwise, will not cross until and unless it is decided to target some other group.

So expect a long haul heavily active LC and high sortie rates and potential for aerial clashes.
 
I come from a family of warriors, and you are right I have heard wonderful stories of how my great grand fathers shafted the bhartis in their times as well. The proud tradition is alive. You on the other hand can keep celebrating 2nd surgical strike but don't forget the poor 300~350 bharti soldirs that we turned in to mince meat




You must heard some wonderful bedtime stories as a kid.
Anyways, never forget - where and how it all happened.
 
Could be IAF gave an SU30 pilot a MiG 21 so they could kinda guage the response and in worse case not lose a more expensive machine. As this whole thing was just meant to get Modi elected. So I doubt Indian Mil would want to lose expensive machine only for Modi.

And this Abhinanananandan had progressed through MiG and then onto Sukhoi

Good analysis, but what do you think about the value of the Su30 qualified pilot ? Is it worth risking to loose him ?
 
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Well a very valid point there too.
Maybe they anticipated getting him back rather quickly???
Good analysis, but what do you think about the value of the Su30 qualified pilot ? Is it worth risking to loose him ?
 
A source through my colleague:

2 x Mig-21 Shot Down. Shot Down by JF-17. No F-16s involved at all, so its an absurd claim India is making.
 
But like the day before, when he declared that the Balakot in KPK was not attacked, DG ISPR had reversed the denial to acceptance of Balakot in KPK being targeted. So, is the PM being deliberately made to lie in order to create a narrative that the Political leadership, "as usual", mishandled the crisis with India and hence PA came to rescue?
No. You’re confusing premature dissemination of information with some sort of grand conspiracy by the PA, which, ironically, is the kind of conspiratorial propaganda typically distributed by the Indian establishment, propaganda you claim not to buy into easily.

All the information from sources in this end claims that no No F-16’s were involved in the engagement with the IAF fighters. Of course it’s off the record info, so I’ll always put that as a caveat, that it is open to correction pending new publicly available facts and evidence.
 

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