22 top airforces (based on plane quality and quantity).

[500]

CJ-10A, air launched 2000 km range rocket powered cruise missile. CJ-10 (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Based on these pics:

H-6 carries two missiles which are similar to US AGM-86 or Russian Kh-55. Thats not very impressive.

The F-16 carried conformal fuel tanks, which reduces payload and maneuverability.

There were no conformal tanks in 1981 and they dont really affect the meaneuverability.

I'm talking about NATURAL range - filled tank, nothing more. The natural range is 550 km.

General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In contrast, the natural range of the Su-27 is 3500 km.

Sukhoi Su-27 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

3500 km is ferry range of Su-27.
Ferry range of F-16 is 2,002 miles or 3221 km.

The serious advantage of F-16 is much lower RCS.

 

[AerospaceEngineer]

Based on these pics:

H-6 carries two missiles which are similar to US AGM-86 or Russian Kh-55. Thats not very impressive.


There were no conformal tanks in 1981 and they dont really affect the meaneuverability.


3500 km is ferry range of Su-27.
Ferry range of F-16 is 2,002 miles or 3221 km.

The serious advantage of F-16 is much lower RCS.

CJ-10 is a very good cruise missile compareable to the Tamahawk, however, just like the Tamahawk it is large.

You are right, most fighters can not carry that missile include J-10A/B, even J-11 will have a hard time.

 

[saumyasupratik]

If you are considering KSA's 72 Typhoons might as well consider India's 272 Su-30MKI instead of 146 or 160 MKI's, 126 Rafale's and 40+ Tejas Mk.I's as well.Also around 100 J-11B's and 150 J-10B's for China, 48 Su-35S's and 48 Su-30SM's for Russia.

 

[Zabaniyah]

^Dear, it isn't yet clear that PLAAF is actually going to buy SU-35s.

 

[saumyasupratik]

^Dear, it isn't yet clear that PLAAF is actually going to buy SU-35s.

No where in my post did I say PLAAF is going for Su-35S.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Based on these pics:


H-6 carries two missiles which are similar to US AGM-86 or Russian Kh-55. Thats not very impressive.


There were no conformal tanks in 1981 and they dont really affect the meaneuverability.


3500 km is ferry range of Su-27.
Ferry range of F-16 is 2,002 miles or 3221 km.

The serious advantage of F-16 is much lower RCS.

The H-6K can carry up to 6 missiles. It is stated directly on the page. China rarely releases official public photos of planes.

RCS doesn't matter when you carry external weapons. A clean F-16 is no threat. F-16 doesn't launch all its weapons at once. If it carries weapons its the same thing as a Su-27.

Also, Su-27 is comparable to the Rafale in terms of aerodynamics (it can only be better; not worse) and size.

Dassault Rafale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Rafale combat radius is 1800 km. F-16 ferry range is with drop tanks included. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that a one engined small light plane is not going to have anywhere near the range of a large 2 engined plane with the same generation of engines, but the sources are included.

The F-16 is not that good compared to 2 engine planes in terms of range, payload, maximum radar detection distance and potential to upgrade radar (due to nose cone limit).

 

[500]

The H-6K can carry up to 6 missiles. It is stated directly on the page.

Thats official data? Huge Russian Tu-95 carries only 6 Kh-55.

RCS doesn't matter when you carry external weapons. A clean F-16 is no threat. F-16 doesn't launch all its weapons at once. If it carries weapons its the same thing as a Su-27.

RCS matters with external weapons too. Thats why most of the producers today try to reduce RCS even for external carrier aircrafts:

Super Hornet
Rafale
Typhoon
Su-35
J-10B

All these aircrafts carry weapons externally and have RCS reduction measures. F-16C also have radar absorbing materials in their intakes.

Rafale combat radius is 1800 km. F-16 ferry range is with drop tanks included. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that a one engined small light plane is not going to have anywhere near the range of a large 2 engined plane with the same generation of engines, but the sources are included.

The F-16 is not that good compared to 2 engine planes in terms of range, payload, maximum radar detection distance and potential to upgrade radar (due to nose cone limit).

Here fery ranges:

F-16 (without CFT) - 3221 km.
Su-27 - 3500 km.
Rafale - 3700 km.

Nose cone of F-16 is bigger than Rafale's.

 

[Nishan_101]

I think Pakistan should concentrate on R&D. Although if we would have 11+ AEW&Cs along with 7 ECM aircraft then it will be better to protect our country. I am hopeful to see them in near future...

 

[Srinivas]

Great work mate.

 

[RayKalm]

After going through the details myself, I do believe this to be quite accurate but with a few adjustments.

 

[Pak_Sher]

I was bored and decided to estimate airforces strength. I wrote down the list of active aircrafts for each air force and then counted score.

Here is method I used. F-16C I used as base: 1 air-air point/1 air to ground point. For other aircrafts my estimates are follow:

F-16C = 1/1
F-16A = 0.8/0.8
F-16 block 52+ aka F-16I = 1.1/1.2
F-16 block 60 = 1.3/1.2
F-15A = 1.2/0.5
F-15C = 1.3/0.5
F-15E = 1.4/1.5
F-15S = 1.3/1.4
F-15SG = 1.5/1.5
F-18A = 1/1.1
F-18F = 1.3/1.3
F-2 = 1.3/1.2
F-16AM = 1/08
Mirage 2000 = 1/1
Typhoon (MESA radar) = 1.3/1.1
Rafale (PESA radar) = 1.2/1.2
Tornado IDS = 0.5/1.2
Tornado ADV = 1/0.6
F-4 = 0.4/0.7
F-4 Terminator = 0.6/1
Su-27 = 1.2/0.4
MiG-29 = 0.9/0.5
Su-30MKI = 1.3/1.2
Su-30MKK = 1.2/1.2
MiG-21 aka J7 = 0.3/0.4
MiG-27 = 0.3/0.7
JF-17 = 0.9/0.8
AMX = 0.3/0.5
Mirage F.1 = 0.7/0.8
Mirage 3/5 = 0.3/0.4
Jaguar = 0.2/0.6
F-5 = 0.3/0.4
J-10 = 1/1
J-8 = 0.6/0.4
JH-7 = 0.5/1.1
Q-5 = 0.1/0.4
H-6 = 0/1

E-3, Phalcon, KJ-2000, Boeing 737 = 8/0
Saab, KJ-200 = 6/0
E-2C, ZDK-03 = 4/0

jet tanker = 2/6
KC-130, H-6 tankers = 1/4

Here the results:

UK

86 Typhoon
136 Tornado GR4
AEW&C: 7 E-3
tanker: 4 Tristar, 12 VC-10

260 air to air points/354 air to ground points

France

59 Rafale
158 Mirage 2000
AEW&C: 4 E-3
tanker: 14 KC-135

285/313

Germany

55 Typhoon
177 Tornado IDS
45 F-4
tanker: 4 A310

187/328

Israel

25 F-15I
30 F-15 C/D
30 F-15 A/B
101 F-16I
135 F-16C/D
100 F-16A/B
AEW&C: 4 G550
tanker: 7 KC-707, 5 KC-130

487/466=1440

India

146 Su-30MKI
45 Mirage 2000
68 MiG-29
88 MiG-27ML
152 MiG-21Bis
120 Jaguar
AEW&C: 3 Phalcon
tanker: 7 IL-78MKI

430/491

Turkey

213 F-16 C/D
52 F-4 Terminator 2020
110 F-4
87 F-5
AEW&C: 1 Boeing 737 AEW&C
tanker: 7 KC-135

336/419

Korea

60 F-15K
169 F-16C/D
84 F-4E
170 F-5E
AEW&C: 2 Boeing 737

354/399

Japan

82 F-2
180 F-15C/D
117 F-4E
AEW&C: 4 E-767, 13 E-2C
tanker: 4 KC-767

480/294

Saudi Arabia

72 Typhoon
109 F-15C/D
72 F-15S
87 Tornado IDS
24 Tornado ADV
120 F-5
AEW&C: 5 E-3
tanker: 8 KE-3

488/449

China

190 J-10
100 Su-30MKK
189 Su-27 and J-11
180 J-8
280 J-7 (MiG-21)
60 JH-7
180 Q-5
110 H-6 (Tu-16)
AEW&C: 5 KJ-2000, 2 KJ-200
tanker: 8 IL-78, 10 H-6

859/905

Italy

55 Typhoon
78 Tornado IDS
14 F-16A ADF
55 AMX
tanker: 2 KC-767, 2 KC-130

148/214=510

Spain

32 Typhoon
86 F-18A
24 Mirage F.1
tanker: 2 KC-707, 5 KC-130

154/181

Greece

126 F-16C/D
30 F-16C block 52+
44 Mirage 2000
57 F-4E
AEW&C: 4 Erieye

250/246

Pakistan

50 JF-17
45 F-16A/B
18 F-16C block 52+
75 Mirage III
83 Mirage V
144 F-7
AEW&C: 4 Erieye, 2 ZDK-03

224/219

Egypt

40 F-16A
178 F-16C
18 Mirage 2000
32 F-4E
115 MiG-21 & J-7
60 Mirage V
AEW&C: 8 E-2C

291/320

UAE

79 F-16E
68 Mirage 2000
AEW&C: 2 Saab 340
tanker: 3 Airbus 330

189/181

Canada

103 F-18A
tanker: 2 A-310, 5 KC-130

112/145

Australia

71 F-18A
21 F-18F
AEW&C: 4 Boeing 737
tanker: 3 A330

136/123=395

Singapore

24 F-15SG
54 F-16C
20 F-16C block 52+
49 F-5
AEW&C: 4 G550
tanker: 4 KC-135, 5 KC-130

171/177

Sweden

158 Gripen
AEW&C: 4 Saab 340
tanker: 1 KC-130

183/146

Final points I calculated air-air points*2 + ground points

The final results:

1) USA
2) Russia
3) China - 2623
4) Israel - 1440
5) S. Arabia - 1425
6) India - 1351
7) Japan - 1254
8) Korea - 1107
9) Turkey - 1091
10) Egypt - 902
11) France - 883
12) UK - 874
13) Greece - 746
14) Germany - 702
15) Pakistan - 667
16) UAE - 559
17) Singapore - 519
18) Sweden - 512
19) Italy - 510
20) Spain - 489
21) Australia - 395
22) Canada - 356

This estimate is still subjective does not include personnel quality and UAVs.

Good effort, but I do not see any points for BVR in the matrix. BVR missiles have changed the game plan all together and should have a strong weightage in a matrix like this.

 

[blackops]

great work thanks

 

[khanz]

you know what kudos to you thats nice work i actually think thats a very fair and accurate ranking .Good job.

 

[agentny17]

Very good work. I give you an A+, althu some of the rankings are hard to believe including having my country Egypt over France for example.

 

[Banu Umayyah]

I was bored and decided to estimate airforces strength. I wrote down the list of active aircrafts for each air force and then counted score.

Here is method I used. F-16C I used as base: 1 air-air point/1 air to ground point. For other aircrafts my estimates are follow:

Israel

25 F-15I
30 F-15 C/D
30 F-15 A/B
101 F-16I
135 F-16C/D
100 F-16A/B
AEW&C: 4 G550
tanker: 7 KC-707, 5 KC-130

487/466=1440


Saudi Arabia

72 Typhoon
109 F-15C/D
72 F-15S
87 Tornado IDS
24 Tornado ADV
120 F-5
AEW&C: 5 E-3
tanker: 8 KE-3

488/449


This estimate is still subjective does not include personnel quality and UAVs.

Israel=1440
S.Arabia=1425
The new Saudi deal is for f15SA Not f15C(at the very least considered f15E) which would clearly give it a higher ranking than Israel based on your system.
Good job nonetheless.