2 Syrian jets shot down by Turkey

[Dino]

Man behind the weapon is important.

Indians in f35 could not out fight a Pakistani in f16. Its the man and training he has got. Weapon is just a tool. You need skill to use it.

a gorilla in an f35 would take out an f16 all day all night.

there is no point in 9g cobra manoeuvres when the anpg radar of the f35 sees you from miles off and a missile is sent your way without you even knowing about it

Israel bombed targets less than 10km away from S400 and S300 systems.

Israel has experience at training with s300 system of Greece.
Israel knows how to destroy sams all day all night.


The Turks need to go back to military cooperation with the israelis

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

a gorilla in an f35 would take out an f16 all day all night.

there is no point in 9g cobra manoeuvres when the anpg radar of the f35 sees you from miles off and a missile is sent your way without you even knowing about it

There is a thing called awacs. Ground based radars environmental awareness and o yea man behind the weapon.

I think you just insulted all f35 pilots by equating their job to that of a monkey.

 

[Trench Broom]

Doubt the Americans want to destroy the Turks. The Americans are manning an x band radar in kurecik in turkey that is powerful it can detect ballistic missile launches in Iran.

all erdogan has to do when it comes to America is throw that thrash s400 joke system, buy patriot batteries that actually will link with turkeys nato systems.
Get the f35s you payed for including Turkish military industry going back to f35 supply chain


That’s it

Well, there is also tension about the growing authoritarianism. That's also been a reason for cooling relations between the west and Turkey. The amount of people in jail for "insulting Erdogan" including more journalists than anywhere in the world bar China.

 

[cabatli_53]

a gorilla in an f35 would take out an f16 all day all night.

there is no point in 9g cobra manoeuvres when the anpg radar of the f35 sees you from miles off and a missile is sent your way without you even knowing about it


Israel has experience at training with s300 system of Greece.
Israel knows how to destroy sams all day all night.


The Turks need to go back to military cooperation with the israelis

Turkey has also lots of experiences for S-300. TurAF was trained with Azerbaijani S-300 PMU2 batteries to generate counter-measure and jamming activities.

 

[Crusher]

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Plus Erdogan is the Wildcard here his love Affair with Putin has never made sense to me.

Putin is the most untrustworthy guy out there, he likes to dodge whenever he gets his chance.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

What a very odd world view you have. So Syria attacks Turkey, Turkey retaliates and you're most concerned with how Israelis are feeling?

And what's this about the "Muslim world". There's no such thing. Christian nations fight wars against each other, what's so special about Muslims?

The fact that you asked muslim vs muslim what is so special about muslims means you are a non muslim at heart. And don't comprehend islam it all

 

[Trench Broom]

The fact that you asked muslim vs muslim what is so special about muslims means you are a non muslim at heart. And don't comprehend islam it all

I comprehend the idea of an Ummah, but at no point in time has it ever been a thing. It's a myth like unicorns.

And this may surprise you, but Israel would prefer stable Muslim countries in the region that cooperate. This would mean a more stable region which means more investment and tourism. Regional wars are not good for M.E economies, including Israel.

 

[StormBreaker]

Doubt the Americans want to destroy the Turks. The Americans are manning an x band radar in kurecik in turkey that is powerful it can detect ballistic missile launches in Iran.

all erdogan has to do when it comes to America is throw that thrash s400 joke system, buy patriot batteries that actually will link with turkeys nato systems.
Get the f35s you payed for including Turkish military industry going back to f35 supply chain


That’s it

Oh nice.

So you consider that as goodwill gesture ?

Not at all !!! A powerful and sovereign country like Turkey doesn’t need USA’s help. The cause of USA is it’s own selfish desire in the region, Turkey is a scapegoat. Turkey isn’t being given an umbrella, rather it is being bullied by all the advanced USA’s thingies based in Turkey itself !!!

This is what drove Turkey mad !! USA has no respect for boundaries when it comes to relations, neither do they believe in their limits !!!

Oh, and for the “to defend from Iran’s BM”, bro !!! Why the hell would iran fire BM on Turkey ? They have no serious beefs. The beef is between Iran and USA (USA being based in Turkey, A form of Augmented Reality), so just remove the devil, no use of those stupid Patriot systems.
@cabatli_53

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

In 2 days, 6 SAM system (Pantsir and BUk-M2) destroyed.

Turkey did israel's job. Now they (israeliz) can ack syria any day... Pathrtic state of middle east. Freakin pathetic people fighting for land and political power.

 

[StormBreaker]

Turkey did israel's job. Now they (israeliz) can ack syria any day... Pathrtic state of middle east. Freakin pathetic people fighting for land and political power.

What a F**king playground, I pity for the Syrian People

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

I comprehend the idea of an Ummah, but at no point in time has it ever been a thing. It's a myth like unicorns.

And this may surprise you, but Israel would prefer stable Muslim countries in the region that cooperate. This would mean a more stable region which means more investment and tourism. Regional wars are not good for M.E economies, including Israel.

Word Ummah is used so much that it has lost its meaning.

You think you understand the bond and feeling i share with a palistinian muslim or labonese muslim or Egyptian muslim or turk muslim or bangali muslim or chinese muslim or amercan muslim.

But that is what you think , you have no idea of the bond we share true muslims. Not Muslims those who call themselves muslims cuz their parents are muslims or they were raised that way.


In time you shall see and understand what i am talking about. Rules are set stage is forming.

What a F**king playground, I pity for the Syrian People

Yea its so bad we picking brothers over brothers.

Dont pick bro. Dont pick. Not a right thing to do morally ethically and religiously. Incorrect.

But yea everyone is free to do as they wish. Rule of life. As you sow so shall you reap.

 

[Basel]

Doubt the Americans want to destroy the Turks. The Americans are manning an x band radar in kurecik in turkey that is powerful it can detect ballistic missile launches in Iran.

all erdogan has to do when it comes to America is throw that thrash s400 joke system, buy patriot batteries that actually will link with turkeys nato systems.
Get the f35s you payed for including Turkish military industry going back to f35 supply chain


That’s it

OK, so now please sell S-400 to Pakistan, we will use them well.

 

[Glass]

Hmmm so we were discussing about Pakistan having Panstir and/BUK Air Defences for its Army Formations and Navy Ships. Looks like.....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1233644043554283520

 

[StormBreaker]

I comprehend the idea of an Ummah, but at no point in time has it ever been a thing. It's a myth like unicorns.

And this may surprise you, but Israel would prefer stable Muslim countries in the region that cooperate. This would mean a more stable region which means more investment and tourism. Regional wars are not good for M.E economies, including Israel.

Let me share with you a very informative fact and a real story, i hope you learn it, analyze it and hardcode it to your brain.
It is a short one tho.

Once Upon a time, Prophet Muhammad SA’s effort with coordination of his companions to expand the Religion beyond boundaries, to Rome, Persia and to Africa. Arab was united under Muslim banner (non muslims were present as well, well protected), Africa accepted the message of Islam, became a strong part of the ummah, Rome and Persia rebelled. In time, both fell.
That TIME , Ummah was a real thing, strong enough to crumble any unjust power that comes to them with bad intentions.

Slowly, the internal issues grew over decades and centuries post Passing Away of Prophet Muhammad SA and the first Generation of Companions, Ummah divided into some major sects, But the DNA remains. Just waiting to become dominant someday...

 

[El Sidd]

OP supports Iran and her proxies.