1000 Minority girls forced into marriage each year : Report

[Ajatashatru]

That love was gone when in 47 punjabi sikh/hindus started genocide of East punjab muslims. Yes west punjabi muslims also killed in revenge but there is difference between revenge and systematic genocide with help of Indian goverment.

So Pakistani punjabis hate punjabi hindus/sikhs and will never forget 47 genocide.

40% of East Punjab Muslims, from Jammu to Ambala, down to Gurgaon, did not arrive alive back to Pakistan.

This is engrained in the psyche of Pakistanis living in Punjab and Sindh and Azad Jammu and Kashmir. They will never forget these genocidal hindus

Violence was from both sides. It was a riot. Both sides claim that they only reacted in revenge. Hindus and Sikhs also saw trains and vehicles full of dead bodies of their loved ones coming from Pak. Does that mean Muslim girls should be abducted by these Hindus and Sikhs and be forced to marry and convert?

 

[Dem!god]

Well never seen any hindu talking about merging with Bangladesh. Its all about Pakistan when the reality is we are much further away and only going farther in separating. While Bengalis are closer to you.

lol....
both of u are equally close to us....and that is nt something for us to cheer....
its a problem for us......
and no we neither want to merge with pakistan not BD......
and anyone saying so,is only naive and is unknown to the ground realities..... ..lol..merging with pakistan for what.....
lol....pakistan has been a enemy state to us and will continue to remain so.......

 

[SrNair]

why are u hindu indians here?

Just for debating.And there is no hindus ,muslims etc.we all are Indians.

 

[Dem!god]

why are u hindu indians here?

to enjoy .....on pakistani forum.......

 

[Multani]

Well never seen any hindu talking about merging with Bangladesh. Its all about Pakistan when the reality is we are much further away and only going farther in separating. While Bengalis are closer to you.

these indians are hurt that they lost their head ( the indus valley ) to people they call foreign.

their so called country, called india, lost 21% of its territory to Pakistan, and then another 3.5% to Bangladesh. their country was reduced by 24.5%

it hurts them in the heart

 

[jaunty]

First they came ... - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Dem!god]

these indians are hurt that they lost their head ( the indus valley ) to people they call foreign.

their so called country, called india, lost 21% of its territory to Pakistan, and then another 3.5% to Bangladesh. their country was reduced by 24.5%

it hurts them in the heart

lol....if this is ur logic....then think again.....
U lost 76% of land......as india ..and then BD along with it.....Ouch....

First they came ... - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

so, true....

 

[Multani]

If that generation could anything in past decades ,Pakistan might become an Asian tiger .But sane words is not audible usually ,So lot of money that needed for social upliftment is diverted for defence needs.That is main reason for social evil like this.
We are looking for a good relationship with Pakistan but we dont have much expectation.Peace History is written like that .

very good post. Thank you.

You are a sane, mature indian, and I bet you must be from South India, and not from somewhere around Delhi.

These social evils are usually the result of the strong prevalence of wadera [feudal] culture in Pakistan.

Hindu Pakistanis live under waderas. Christians too live under former waderas.

No one highlights how many Muslim women are abducted by these feudal lords or former feudal landlords.

You have killings by the hundreds in Haryana alone from marriages within designated villages considered too close.

It doesnt matter whether General Zia did it or not.Damage is Done.
Pakistan new generations lost its control.TTP and other terrorists groups,minority atrocities all wrote in a single page .They need fundamental change from school education itself.But I dont expect a miracle .After all it is too difficult for a change.
Time and Tide waits for none.

have you visited Pakistani schools, universities, and colleges?

 

[jaunty]

so, true....

But Pakistanis--

 

[SrNair]

very good post. Thank you.

You are a sane, mature indian, and I bet you must be from South India, and not from somewhere around Delhi.

These social evils are usually the result of the strong prevalence of wadera [feudal] culture in Pakistan.

Hindu Pakistanis live under waderas. Christians too live under former waderas.

No one highlights how many Muslim women are abducted by these feudal lords or former feudal landlords.

You have killings by the hundreds in Haryana alone from marriages within designated villages considered too close.



have you visited Pakistani schools, universities, and colleges?

Yes I am from South India.But that doesnt a matter here.
May you are right.Feudal system cause this .But every country and its majority has a responsibility to protect their minorities .
It is right some parts in North India still follow some medieval method.But that is less than 1% in a country having 125 crore people.Our law is that strong.
When someone creates a thread about riots in India.All Pakistani members here jump in to it and will start to claim about atrocities against minorities in India.But as an Indian ,a common middle class Indian I can say this type of atrocities cant heard in India.You cant criticize another people or nation when your own house is dirty with social evils like this(sorry I dont mean you)Minority protection is a priority in India because mainstream media and majorities like me care about them.


No .But Taliban and TTP can sometimes directly challenge PA and GoP in their own turf.Terrorist organization cant do that with out the support of locals .And locals means youths

 

[Multani]

Yes I am from South India.But that doesnt a matter here.
May you are right.Feudal system cause this .But every country and its majority has a responsibility to protect their minorities .
It is right some parts in North India still follow some medieval method.But that is less than 1% in a country having 125 crore people.Our law is that strong.
When someone creates a thread about riots in India.All Pakistani members here jump in to it and will start to claim about atrocities against minorities in India.But as an Indian ,a common middle class Indian I can say this type of atrocities cant heard in India.You cant criticize another people or nation when your own house is dirty with social evils like this(sorry I dont mean you)Minority protection is a priority in India because mainstream media and majorities like me care about them.


No .But Taliban and TTP can sometimes directly challenge PA and GoP in their own turf.Terrorist organization cant do that with out the support of locals .And locals means youths

you have to do justice. No Muslim Pakistani brags about settling scores with hindu and Christian Pakistanis. But on PDF everyone is aware of the violence of these hindu north indians.

in india, you have an ENTIRE province [ Gujarat ] under a massive killing field with state sponsorship. This is a fact. Nothing like this can ever happen in Pakistan in the areas where Christians and hindus live, or wherever.

Yes I am from South India.But that doesnt a matter here.
May you are right.Feudal system cause this .But every country and its majority has a responsibility to protect their minorities .
It is right some parts in North India still follow some medieval method.But that is less than 1% in a country having 125 crore people.Our law is that strong.
When someone creates a thread about riots in India.All Pakistani members here jump in to it and will start to claim about atrocities against minorities in India.But as an Indian ,a common middle class Indian I can say this type of atrocities cant heard in India.You cant criticize another people or nation when your own house is dirty with social evils like this(sorry I dont mean you)Minority protection is a priority in India because mainstream media and majorities like me care about them.


No .But Taliban and TTP can sometimes directly challenge PA and GoP in their own turf.Terrorist organization cant do that with out the support of locals .And locals means youths

120 villages in Muzaffarnagar, an entire district, and then areas of other districts, forming more than 3000 sq.km of territory was under a massive murderous spree for a week in india, not too far off from delhi
No country in the world has such sort of killing and violence, in the modern era.
You cannot compare india to Pakistan.

 

[dawn_news]

Violence was from both sides. It was a riot. Both sides claim that they only reacted in revenge. Hindus and Sikhs also saw trains and vehicles full of dead bodies of their loved ones coming from Pak. Does that mean Muslim girls should be abducted by these Hindus and Sikhs and be forced to marry and convert?

Pretty well documented that riots started in east punjab. Sikhs were especially angry for being reduced to dhobi ka kutta na ghar ka na ghat ka.

 

[Ajatashatru]

Pretty well documented that riots started in east punjab. Sikhs were especially angry for being reduced to dhobi ka kutta na ghar ka na ghat ka.

Documented in Pak history books I am sure.

 

[SrNair]

you have to do justice. No Muslim Pakistani brags about settling scores with hindu and Christian Pakistanis. But on PDF everyone is aware of the violence of these hindu north indians.

in india, you have an ENTIRE province [ Gujarat ] under a massive killing field with state sponsorship. This is a fact. Nothing like this can ever happen in Pakistan in the areas where Christians and hindus live, or wherever.



120 villages in Muzaffarnagar, an entire district, and then areas of other districts, forming more than 3000 sq.km of territory was under a massive murderous spree for a week in india, not too far off from delhi
No country in the world has such sort of killing and violence, in the modern era.
You cannot compare india to Pakistan.

I know places where you referred. I visited Gujarat with my cousin who has a job there.
In India everything is monitored by mainstream medias and judiciary and people.Systematic ethnic cleansing like mentioned in this article will not happened in India.Your only know about this areas is an internet connection ,a PC and keyboard .Maximum you may get some stuff in Pak newspapers.
But I am a full blooded Indian. You can argue like this with some NRI with half knowledge.But not with me.
Muzzafarnagar is preplanned and it is done by politicians from BSP,SP,Congress,BJP etc.
Riots happens in areas where poverty is flourishing.UP has poverty because of BSP and SP
So Narendra modi knew from 2002 riot that poverty is main cause of all these problems.He started a massive economic reform after 2002.Now one fifth of our exports is from Gujarat.Not a single damn incident happen in last 10 years in Gujarat.
Rest of states with good literacy rate is always peaceful.
You magnificent killing numbers with out any base will not effect here.
One can improve their own prospects and prosperity when he/she find out their defects.
But ignoring his/her own problem and talk about someone problem will always back fire and harmful for themselves.

 

[Jf Thunder]

How many Pakistanis have you met???
And with how many have youclosely interacted with??

The ones on the forum are fledgeling keyboard warriors.And most of them are extremists.
Dont go by their opinion.Those Pakistanis who have met Indians and vice versa may not share the same enthusiasm as mine but would not completely reject the idea at its inception.


If you really want to "meet" Indians then you can do so on the forum too.
I have Pakistani friends both in virtual and real life.
So I have every reason to believe on what I had said.

PS:
Dilettantish posts are made out of shear lack of knowledge of other nationalities.And somehow this thread proves it.


Flashback 65yrs.

and who might rule this united nation?