Z-10 Gunship Back With PAA

[ptldM3]

Helo can't survive MANPADs but may be they can crash land and crew survive.

This helicopter landed just fine.

 

[war&peace]

To be honest, i picked it up on twitter and it was posted by same person who earlier posted claiming first images of Mi-35s in Pakistan.....but i seem to have a certain fan club who never let go an opportunity to be critical and nit picks.

I personally thought it was a casual share and I commented in the same spirit ...well nitpicking is also a part of the forum and at times it is necessary as well though I think this thread is more like a casual share.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Exactly, instead of buying three different, buy one with in large numbers with ToT and gradually indigenise it by following a realistic but aggressive deletion plan.

At first Pak would have to continue with AH1Z and its previous versions side by side with ATAK129(if the deal materializes) but eventually ATAK129 should become the mainstay. Then over time Pak can work with either Turkey or China to develop a heavier variant like the AH64 Apache to have a high/low combination as the AH1Z(and its variants) are phased out. Having commonality/local production of these(ATAK129 and this suggested heavier attack helicopter) would be amazing if it can be done.

 

[AMG_12]

To be honest, i picked it up on twitter and it was posted by same person who earlier posted claiming first images of Mi-35s in Pakistan.....but i seem to have a certain fan club who never let go an opportunity to be critical and nit picks.

And you thought a tweet require a new thread? The same guy posted the tweet already in the MI 35 thread. You posted two old photos to supplement a tweet by someone who himself questions the validity of the news.
We have every right to be critical if you post something based on an assumption. It's the forum's policy, back you claim with a reliable source.

 

[Windjammer]

And you thought a tweet require a new thread? The same guy posted the tweet already in the MI 35 thread. You posted two old photos to supplement a tweet by someone who himself questions the validity of the news.
We have every right to be critical if you post something based on an assumption. It's the forum's policy, back you claim with a reliable source.

First of all since when have you promoted your self to question anyone what they can or don't post and get your facts right, i never added any photos to any tweets.
Members here often open threads and give reference based on either news articles or tweets.....or do you only believe in the word of mouth and before pointing fingers it's sometimes helps to do some homework first....so let me enlighten you as who posted those pictures in the first place.

https://twitter.com/x/status/971372175428128770

 

[Readerdefence]

Hi if z10 is back then we have to wait 23-8 and everybody can see from their own
Eyes I’m back or not so guys let’s wait and cross our fingers
Thank you
I wish they are back but should be with some upgrade otherwise no,point of sending
Them back at the before

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This helicopter landed just fine.

Hi and who was operating it
Thank you

 

[ptldM3]

Hi if z10 is back then we have to wait 23-8 and everybody can see from their own
Eyes I’m back or not so guys let’s wait and cross our fingers
Thank you
I wish they are back but should be with some upgrade otherwise no,point of sending
Them back at the before


Hi and who was operating it
Thank you

It was operated by the Syrian Air Force.

 

[war&peace]

Exactly, instead of buying three different, buy one with in large numbers with ToT and gradually indigenise it by following a realistic but aggressive deletion plan.
http://fashiontrends.pk/

parakeet? or web-bot?

 

[CHACHA"G"]

Pakistan played very important role in Z-10,(Remember the may) ,,,,,,,,,,,,, I think , PA will go for Z-10 may be not now , may be after 10 years , but surly we will have Z-10 As advance next Gen Stealth , quitter Heli.............
T-129 to replace all cobrassssss........... Zulus to add extra punch........ And Z-10s to add numbers and next gen tech. Total(3) 100+

 

[Mumm-Ra]

Pakistan played very important role in Z-10,(Remember the may) ,,,,,,,,,,,,, I think , PA will go for Z-10 may be not now , may be after 10 years , but surly we will have Z-10 As advance next Gen Stealth , quitter Heli.............
T-129 to replace all cobrassssss........... Zulus to add extra punch........ And Z-10s to add numbers and next gen tech. Total(3) 100+

Why go for a completely new platform instead of investing in T-129, if purchased, and upgrading it. Wouldn't that make more sense as we would have sufficient support facilities on ground for upgrading existing helos and adding more as time goes by?

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This helicopter landed just fine.

That is some damage. Any info on how many hits did it take?

 

[CHACHA"G"]

Why go for a completely new platform instead of investing in T-129, if purchased, and upgrading it. Wouldn't that make more sense as we would have sufficient support facilities on ground for upgrading existing helos and adding more as time goes by?



That is some damage. Any info on how many hits did it take?

IDK how much you can upgrade T-129 frame to make it stealth(er) ,,,,,,, Z-10 and T-129 are in same category (medium) but totally different birds........
And having 2 (T-129 and Z-10) in numbers with maintenance facilities at home will help by all means...

 

[Mumm-Ra]

IDK how much you can upgrade T-129 frame to make it stealth(er) ,,,,,,, Z-10 and T-129 are in same category (medium) but totally different birds........
And having 2 (T-129 and Z-10) in numbers with maintenance facilities at home will help by all means...

Wasn't the idea of a stealth attack helicopter abandoned even by the US. I remember they came up with Commanche but that bird never went anywhere. Isn't it prudent to learn from that episode and keep stealth out of helos?

 

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IDK how much you can upgrade T-129 frame to make it stealth(er) ,,,,,,, Z-10 and T-129 are in same category (medium) but totally different birds........
And having 2 (T-129 and Z-10) in numbers with maintenance facilities at home will help by all means...

T-129 is a light attack helicopter, it is small and light enougth to fit into a C-130 cargo aircraft. Z-10 is not.

 

[syed_yusuf]

T-129 is a light attack helicopter, it is small and light enougth to fit into a C-130 cargo aircraft. Z-10 is not.

T-129 and Z-10 will fit in different role so is Mi35.

Z-10 when upgraded will be in the class of Apache while T-129 will be the bulk horse for routine role done currently by cobras, any AH-1Z is a bonus. Mi35 is for air assault.

 

[ptldM3]

Why go for a completely new platform instead of investing in T-129, if purchased, and upgrading it. Wouldn't that make more sense as we would have sufficient support facilities on ground for upgrading existing helos and adding more as time goes by?



That is some damage. Any info on how many hits did it take?

I would imagine it got hit just once but the warhead detonation and subsequent blast and shrapnel damaged the helicopter heavily including engine which appears a fire broke out.