Would the creation of a new national language work for Pakistan?

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I recommend Ishraon ki Zuban, less we talk less we fight each other.

woh tou ab bhi hota hai.. if you know what i mean..

 

[PakhtunGuy]

a)dont object or poke your nose in things which you do not understand before coming up with your religious lecture google ya alla and see what it means

b) i didnt objected to arbic read again my post

a) Ya Allah and not "Ya alla"
Even google knows that.

b) What did you then mean by "Islamic emirates of lost Al Arbi or al Persian al Bakistan"

Again whats wrong with arabic language? Why is Urdu more important?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Official language should be English. But Persian is way better...

no thank you.. come again.

 

[Hashshāshīn]

The way Bollywood culture is coming to Pakistan...She needs another language to associate herself with the people of common religion. Arabic and Farsi.

Plus it will help greater economic and regional ties between the brotherly nations. Minus kinks and corrupt motherlands.

Blame your people who love to watch their films.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

a) Ya Allah and not "Ya alla"
Even google knows that.

b) What did you then mean by "Islamic emirates of lost Al Arbi or al Persian al Bakistan"

Again whats wrong with arabic language? Why is Urdu more important?

Anything else sire?

 

[PakhtunGuy]

Anything else sire?

No, thats all. Thanks for asking.

 

[mughal arslan shah mirza]

I recommend Ishraon ki Zuban, less we talk less we fight each other.

Indirectly, you're promoting Ishq ki Zuban

 

[Musafir117]

woh tou ab bhi hota hai.. if you know what i mean..

I didn't get what you meanEar:

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

no thanx .. not needed

 

[user1]

In fact, in Pakistan, we are speaking - more or less - a single language. It is just like 8 major dialects of Arabic in the Arab countries. There are some islands which are very different, for example, languages in the extreme north of Pakistan or Brahui in Balochistan. But, overall we can regard them to languages belonging to same family.

David Crystal writes in his book 'How language works':

An interesting problem arises in cases where there is a geographical dialect continuum. There is often a chain of dialects spoken throughout an area. At any point in a chain, speakers of a dialect can understand the speakers of other dialects who live in adjacent area to them; but they find it difficult to understand people who live further along the chain; and they may find the people who live furthest away completely unintelligible. The speakers of the dialects at the two ends of the chain will not understand each other; but they are nonetheless linked by a chain of mutual intelligibility.

This kind of situation is very common. An extensive continuum links all the dialects of the languages known as German, Dutch and Flemish. Speakers in Eastern Switzerland can not understand speakers in Eastern Belgium; but they are linked by a chain of mutually intelligible dialects throughout the Netherlands, Germany and Austria. . There is West Romance continuum which links rural dialects of Portuguese, Spanish, Catalan, French and Italian. We are used to think of these languages as quite different from each other; but his is only because we are usually exposed to their standard varieties, which are not mutually intelligible.

I find a similar language continuum from North to South of Pakistan, especially on the Eastern side of river Indus. Kashmiri Pahari, Hindko, Potohari, Punjabi, Saraiki and Sindhi - all of these languages are connected by a chain of mutual intelligibility. The other two languages, Pashto and Balochi both, again belong to Iranic languages which are a branch of Indo-European languages to which all the Pakistani languages belong.

So, all our languages are a direct result of the history and geography of the region. Urdu is just a derivative of most of these languages and borrows most of it's vocabulary from them. No wonder, it does not take much effort for people of Pakistan to learn Urdu. So, I do not think that we need to change our National language. Urdu is almost tailor-made to be used as a lingua franca, hence, is suitable to be the National language, connecting people from the various parts of Pakistan.

 

[Bilal.]

No, thats all. Thanks for asking.

He is saying yalla... An Arabic slang for let's go....

 

[JAT BALWAN]

Urdu is a very nice language IMO...

any new language might take time of decades to mature & it is not seems urgent to change it.

 

[third eye]

Many people discussed whether Urdu should be replaced with Persian or Arabic etc.
Because to be honest Urdu has nothing to do with Pakistan and the British made Urdu to the national language of Pakistan since occupation before occupation it was Persian.
Still today Urdu remains national language and English official language of Pakistan. And our mother tongues (Pashto, Punjabi, Sindhi, Balochi and Kashmiri [languages spoken in Kashmir region]) are only regional languages.

Making our mother tongues to national languages of Pakistan is the right direction in my opinion and necessary.
But Pakistan being a multi ethnic state also needs a unity language like Urdu today.
Replacing Urdu with Arabic or Persian brings its benifits but it is also not our languages to be honest.

So what if we create a new national language and it replaces Urdu.

One example would be:

Grammar: Balochi (for example)
Vocabulary: Punjabi (20%), Pashto (20%), Sindhi (20%), Balochi (20%) and Kashmiri/Koshur (20%) = 100%
Name of the language: Pakistani (P=Punjab, A= Afghania, K= Kashmir, S= Sindh, TAN= Balochistan)


I know it is not realistic. It is more realistic if Persian or Arabic replaces Urdu.
But what do you think?

This is a very interesting observation.

Wonder how many Pk posters here agree with this because thus far one has read chest thumping remarks on how Urdu is "Pakistani' and no one else has a lien on this .

@ subject , the only language we need is a language of peace & that can be in any ' language'. What we speak does not matter . What we do matters more.

 

[Pakistanisage]

Many people discussed whether Urdu should be replaced with Persian or Arabic etc.
Because to be honest Urdu has nothing to do with Pakistan and the British made Urdu to the national language of Pakistan since occupation before occupation it was Persian.
Still today Urdu remains national language and English official language of Pakistan. And our mother tongues (Pashto, Punjabi, Sindhi, Balochi and Kashmiri [languages spoken in Kashmir region]) are only regional languages.

Making our mother tongues to national languages of Pakistan is the right direction in my opinion and necessary.
But Pakistan being a multi ethnic state also needs a unity language like Urdu today.
Replacing Urdu with Arabic or Persian brings its benifits but it is also not our languages to be honest.

So what if we create a new national language and it replaces Urdu.

One example would be:

Grammar: Balochi (for example)
Vocabulary: Punjabi (20%), Pashto (20%), Sindhi (20%), Balochi (20%) and Kashmiri/Koshur (20%) = 100%
Name of the language: Pakistani (P=Punjab, A= Afghania, K= Kashmir, S= Sindh, TAN= Balochistan)


I know it is not realistic. It is more realistic if Persian or Arabic replaces Urdu.
But what do you think?

I think this is a retarded thread.

However , if you are serious about Pakistanis learning a new language as a NATIONAL LANGUAGE, why not let it be ENGLISH. Learning English as a National language will benefit Pakistan tremendously.

 

[Lord ZeN]

Why not continue Urdu ?By that why u guys can still watch Bollywood movies....