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Why the Risk of War is Higher with Iran than North Korea

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There is a fear that the United States might become embroiled in war in 2018 with Iran, North Korea, or possibly both.

In view of the inflammatory rhetoric directed by the United States and North Korea toward one another over the past several months, it would appear at first glance that the risk of war with North Korea is higher. The risk appears still higher because North Korea poses a considerable security risk to America’s allies in the Pacific region, especially Japan and South Korea.

However, barring some new and unexpected developments in the Korean Peninsula, the likelihood of a full-scale war between the U.S. and North Korea is less than the chance of a U.S. military intervention against Iran.

There are several reasons why this is so. First, American regional allies, notably South Korea and Japan, are more vulnerable to North Korean attacks. In particular, South Korea could suffer unbearable human and material damage in case of war. Therefore, most likely it would try to dissuade America from going to war and instead seek a negotiated settlement to the dispute. Second, the United States must consider the risk that countries like China might become involved in the conflict. Third, the U.S. must calculate the risk of possible use of a nuclear device against American territory by North Korea. In other words, North Korea’s much inferior nuclear capability nevertheless exerts a deterrent effect on American policy.

But, perhaps most importantly, there is no domestic pressure in the United States for America to rush to war against North Korea.

The situation vis-à-vis Iran is quite different. Despite talk of Iran’s military power, especially its ballistic missiles, the fact is that Iran is militarily weak. In particular, Iran lacks an adequate air force and air defense system. A week-long American bombing campaign would inflict considerable damage on Iran’s military and economic infrastructure.

More to the point Iran, unlike North Korea, does not have a direct retaliatory power against America. Iran’s missiles and its much talked about speed boats are no much for American power at sea or in the air. And under the Joint Comprehensive program of Action (JCPOA), Iran has forgone the option of developing a nuclear device. A rudimentary nuclear device might have increased Iran’s vulnerability to a preemptive U.S. attack. But it might also have given American decision-makers pause.

What makes Iran’s situation different—and the risk of war higher—is the existence of both a regional and a domestic U.S. lobby in favor of an American attack on Iran.

Domestically, American hawks as well as the ardent supporters of Israel and its prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, have long advocated an American attack on Iran. Many had expected that after Iraq, Tehran would be the next target. Some were disappointed that Iran was not attacked first.

For this group, a change in Iran’s behavior or even a regime change is not sufficient. They want to see Iran’s capability to be a military and economic power in the region destroyed. With Iraq and Syria already out of the way, and with Egypt having become toothless, Iran is the only remaining Middle Eastern power that must be brought to its knees. It is the rebellious satrapy that should be tamed. As long as it has the rudiments of power, it cannot be trusted to behave.

Disposing of Iran at a time when Arab leaders appear to be willing to forgo the Palestinian cause altogether would hasten the settlement of the Arab-Israeli dispute, or so they think, because Iran is the only state willing to sacrifice its own national interests for the cause of liberating Palestine. At least, Iranian hardliners’ rhetoric seem to indicate such willingness.

These sentiments are also shared by some Arab states—Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and the United Arab Emirates, to name but a few. They have been urging an American attack on Iran for a long time. Saudi Arabia’s late King Abdullah’s request that the United States should “cut off the head of the snake,” i.e. Iran, is one example. More to the point, the former Secretary of State, John Kerry, recently related how Israel, Egypt and Saudi Arabia were pressuring the United States to bomb Iran while America was trying to reach a negotiated settlement on Iran’s nuclear program. They have not changed their minds. If anything, they are even more eager now for such an operation.

The political winds in Washington also seem to be blowing in a similar direction. Increasingly hostile rhetoric about Iran’s involvement in regional conflicts and comments made by several high-ranking Trump administration officials, such as the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley, seem to indicate that US might be leaning towards intervention. Making matters worse for Iran is the fact it has no great power patron willing to come to its defense. Neither Russia nor China will risk their own interests to defend Iran.

This may not come to pass, and Iran and the U.S. might just continue on their current no war no peace trajectory. But authorities in Tehran would be advised to take the risks seriously.

There has been an unfortunate tendency among Iran’s hardliners to dismiss threats of an attack by America. The fact that, so far, they have escaped such an attack has encouraged them in this attitude.

Those hardliners have made anti-Americanism the cornerstone of their ideology and the basis of their power and legitimacy, and thus have remained unwilling to engage in serious dialogue with America. They have developed an ostrich-like mind set and attitude that could prove disastrous for Iran.
 
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US wont like to open so many fronts at the same time. most likely the plan is to let saudia and iran fight each other in ME while uncle sam take care of NK but its not so easy to put it into action.
 
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US wont like to open so many fronts at the same time. most likely the plan is to let saudia and iran fight each other in ME while uncle sam take care of NK but its not so easy to put it into action.
It's what Iranian leaders and politicians have warned about, be sure such a war is not gonna happen. we are not naive to play in the hands of the Americans.
 
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Because Iran is biggest threat to Israel and Zionist & co.
Because North Korea is not gonna attack Israel
Because United states first priority is to protect Israel
Because United States don't care about U.S. citizens
Because United States is busy in false flags against there own citizens for conspiring against Muslims
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Why the Risk of War is Higher with Iran than North Korea


There is a fear that the United States might become embroiled in war in 2018 with Iran, North Korea, or possibly both.

In view of the inflammatory rhetoric directed by the United States and North Korea toward one another over the past several months, it would appear at first glance that the risk of war with North Korea is higher. The risk appears still higher because North Korea poses a considerable security risk to America’s allies in the Pacific region, especially Japan and South Korea.

However, barring some new and unexpected developments in the Korean Peninsula, the likelihood of a full-scale war between the U.S. and North Korea is less than the chance of a U.S. military intervention against Iran.

There are several reasons why this is so. First, American regional allies, notably South Korea and Japan, are more vulnerable to North Korean attacks. In particular, South Korea could suffer unbearable human and material damage in case of war. Therefore, most likely it would try to dissuade America from going to war and instead seek a negotiated settlement to the dispute. Second, the United States must consider the risk that countries like China might become involved in the conflict. Third, the U.S. must calculate the risk of possible use of a nuclear device against American territory by North Korea. In other words, North Korea’s much inferior nuclear capability nevertheless exerts a deterrent effect on American policy.

But, perhaps most importantly, there is no domestic pressure in the United States for America to rush to war against North Korea.

The situation vis-à-vis Iran is quite different. Despite talk of Iran’s military power, especially its ballistic missiles, the fact is that Iran is militarily weak. In particular, Iran lacks an adequate air force and air defense system. A week-long American bombing campaign would inflict considerable damage on Iran’s military and economic infrastructure.

More to the point Iran, unlike North Korea, does not have a direct retaliatory power against America. Iran’s missiles and its much talked about speed boats are no much for American power at sea or in the air. And under the Joint Comprehensive program of Action (JCPOA), Iran has forgone the option of developing a nuclear device. A rudimentary nuclear device might have increased Iran’s vulnerability to a preemptive U.S. attack. But it might also have given American decision-makers pause.

What makes Iran’s situation different—and the risk of war higher—is the existence of both a regional and a domestic U.S. lobby in favor of an American attack on Iran.

Domestically, American hawks as well as the ardent supporters of Israel and its prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, have long advocated an American attack on Iran. Many had expected that after Iraq, Tehran would be the next target. Some were disappointed that Iran was not attacked first.

For this group, a change in Iran’s behavior or even a regime change is not sufficient. They want to see Iran’s capability to be a military and economic power in the region destroyed. With Iraq and Syria already out of the way, and with Egypt having become toothless, Iran is the only remaining Middle Eastern power that must be brought to its knees. It is the rebellious satrapy that should be tamed. As long as it has the rudiments of power, it cannot be trusted to behave.

Disposing of Iran at a time when Arab leaders appear to be willing to forgo the Palestinian cause altogether would hasten the settlement of the Arab-Israeli dispute, or so they think, because Iran is the only state willing to sacrifice its own national interests for the cause of liberating Palestine. At least, Iranian hardliners’ rhetoric seem to indicate such willingness.

These sentiments are also shared by some Arab states—Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and the United Arab Emirates, to name but a few. They have been urging an American attack on Iran for a long time. Saudi Arabia’s late King Abdullah’s request that the United States should “cut off the head of the snake,” i.e. Iran, is one example. More to the point, the former Secretary of State, John Kerry, recently related how Israel, Egypt and Saudi Arabia were pressuring the United States to bomb Iran while America was trying to reach a negotiated settlement on Iran’s nuclear program. They have not changed their minds. If anything, they are even more eager now for such an operation.

The political winds in Washington also seem to be blowing in a similar direction. Increasingly hostile rhetoric about Iran’s involvement in regional conflicts and comments made by several high-ranking Trump administration officials, such as the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley, seem to indicate that US might be leaning towards intervention. Making matters worse for Iran is the fact it has no great power patron willing to come to its defense. Neither Russia nor China will risk their own interests to defend Iran.

This may not come to pass, and Iran and the U.S. might just continue on their current no war no peace trajectory. But authorities in Tehran would be advised to take the risks seriously.

There has been an unfortunate tendency among Iran’s hardliners to dismiss threats of an attack by America. The fact that, so far, they have escaped such an attack has encouraged them in this attitude.

Those hardliners have made anti-Americanism the cornerstone of their ideology and the basis of their power and legitimacy, and thus have remained unwilling to engage in serious dialogue with America. They have developed an ostrich-like mind set and attitude that could prove disastrous for Iran.

writer of this article is a retard.


They'd rather go after Iran even though NK has put LA within nuclear range. Obvious nonsense article.
 
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Iran should have built nukes.

North Korea never needed nukes, they still have a mutual defence treaty with China, which means China must intervene in the event of North Korea being invaded (just like in the first Korean War, and we saw how that one turned out).
 
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Yes, Iran's military is weak. if that helps you sleep better at night.

Iran is weak and we've got little influence in the region and world stage. Attack us already and liberate Iranian people from its leaders, O USA almighty.

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F-off already bit**es. haven't you had enough D in the mouth because of Syria and Iraq?
 
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Iran should have built nukes.

North Korea never needed nukes, they still have a mutual defence treaty with China, which means China must intervene in the event of North Korea being invaded (just like in the first Korean War, and we saw how that one turned out).
Iran was trying to, and your country DIDNT help. North Korea DEFINITELY needed nukes because conventionally, they are weak compared to US. China helped NK militarily too so NK can have sole deterrence instead of China needing to risk her assets/lives/blood for NK during a war.
 
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Iran was trying to, and your country DIDNT help.

Maybe because Iran was always more interested in their relationship with the USA? And didn't they issue a "fatwa" against nuclear weapons, basically cutting off that option forever (along with the nuclear deal)?

Now look at Pakistan, they were determined to acquire nuclear weapons in collaboration with China, and they got them.

Nukes are 1950's technology, Iran always had the option to make them, if they weren't so focused on appeasing the USA.

Maybe after Trump reverses the sanctions again, Iran will finally understand that the USA is not an entity that can be appeased.
 
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Iran was trying to, and your country DIDNT help. North Korea DEFINITELY needed nukes because conventionally, they are weak compared to US. China helped NK militarily too so NK can have sole deterrence instead of China needing to risk her assets/lives/blood for NK during a war.

Not true. Many people consider North Korea is vessel state of China, it's completely a misunderstanding. If you recap the history and Kim's 'dynasty', North Korea is a creation of USSR, their big boss has been USSR, even after disintegration of USSR, North Korea still keep a closer relationship with Russia than China, China is 'blackmailed' in fact since North Korea understand China has to support it.

After disintegration of USSR, North Korea recruited lots of nuclear scientists from ex-USSR states, this is how they develop nuclear weapon and missiles, this has nothing to do with China. However China do provide economic aid to North Korea to avoid its collapse.
 
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There is war coming against iran

U.S general Mattis said that they plan on opposing Iran through diplomatic pressure not militarily. Theirs no indication that the U.S is re-orienting its forces in an aggressive military posture, and the Saudis & and also if UAE joins, cannot fight Iran alone.
 
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Maybe because Iran was always more interested in their relationship with the USA? And didn't they issue a "fatwa" against nuclear weapons, basically cutting off that option forever (along with the nuclear deal)?

Now look at Pakistan, they were determined to acquire nuclear weapons in collaboration with China, and they got them.

Nukes are 1950's technology, Iran always had the option to make them, if they weren't so focused on appeasing the USA.

Maybe after Trump reverses the sanctions again, Iran will finally understand that the USA is not an entity that can be appeased.
Iran needed nukes to deter US so how does that support being more interested in relationship with US?
Yes lets defintely look at Pakistan!- a country your country helped more gladly than Iran. Lol. just facts. You think Pakistan got nukes because they just wanted to? please.
Regarding Iran and making the push for nukes, it wasnt only US Iran had to deal with. The internationa community too was important, afterall THEY also voted for UN sanctions on Iran along with US, so it wasnt only US that had issues with Iran's nuclear program.
 
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