Why pray in Arabic and not in a language we understand?

[Tiger Awan]

The present form of the Quran was completed around 705 AD, which is approximately 70 years after Prophet Muhammad PBUH died.

the present form is actually the original form. No one changed it.

 

[VCheng]

the present form is actually the original form. No one changed it.

I respect your belief that the present form is the original form.

All I have presented is the historical fact that the present form was finalized by humans about 70 years later.

 

[Bratva]

The present form of the Quran was completed around 705 AD, which is approximately 70 years after Prophet Muhammad PBUH died.

Are you certain you are not mixing two events? Quran was compiled in Hazrat Usman Time, after 70 years, Hajjaj bin yousaf Added diacritical marks to make Quran easy for Non Arabs.

 

[VCheng]

Are you certain you are not mixing two events? Quran was compiled in Hazrat Usman Time, after 70 years, Hajjaj bin yousaf Added diacritical marks to make Quran easy for Non Arabs.

No, I am not confusing or mixing anything.

The addition of the diacritical marks finalized the Quran, by around 705 AD. Thus, the present form of the Quran evolved by human effort over a period of 70 years approximately.

 

[Bratva]

According to Seleman Akhtar.....

Even the language has not been spared amidst this whole drivel of purification. Article 31/2 (a) of constitution of Pakistan states:

“The State shall endeavor, as respects the Muslims of Pakistan to make the teaching of the Holy Quran and Islamiat compulsory, to encourage and facilitate the learning of Arabic language..”.

What’s that, a pathetic attempt to make Arabic lingua franca for Pakistan where less than 1% population can understand Arabic? What about the divergent local languages or even the so-called national language? Most common but glaring example that may be put forward to underline the predicament is gradual replacement of the Indo-Persian ‘Khuda-Hafiz’ with Arabic ‘Allah-Hafiz’ implying that Arabic Allah is the only proper word for God. Khuda is an Indo-Persian term to say “God”.

So, whatever happened to the Pakistani 'identity'?

Sometimes, why you people talk out of your A$$, State will encourage, not force someone to learn arabic. It's just like Indian Choosing French language or Urdu or whatever they offer as second language to learn while they are in 9th or 10th grade. Just like the same case here. Pakistani students only learn language in theri 7th and 8th grade.

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

No, I am not confusing or mixing anything.

The addition of the diacritical marks finalized the Quran, by around 705 AD. Thus, the present form of the Quran evolved by human effort over a period of 70 years approximately.

Assalam alaikum

Quran was final,but since ppl like me and u ( non arab ) entered hajjaj tried to make it easy for us to read and pronounce but the tarteeb was not changed

TARIQ

 

[VCheng]

Assalam alaikum

Quran was final,but since ppl like me and u ( non arab ) entered hajjaj tried to make it easy for us to read and pronounce but the tarteeb was not changed

TARIQ

WA.

Yes, like I have said before, the Quranic revelations are divine, but the order in which we have it in the book form is human, being compiled almost 70 years later, after a process of evolution necessitated by several factors, one of which you mention.

 

[mitth]

Quran are final and clean clean talk and use easy language and Quran give the Love and peace.

 

[v9s]

[Quran 41:44] If we made it a non-Arabic Quran they would have said, "Why did it come down in that language?" Whether it is Arabic or non-Arabic, say, "For those who believe, it is a guide and healing. As for those who disbelieve, they will be deaf and blind to it, as if they are being addressed from faraway."

Though the Quran was revealed in Arabic, it clearly states that God has promised to be its teacher (Verses 55:1-4) and the One to explain it (Verses 75:18-19).

Reading the quoted verse above, God states that language is irrelevant, and that only the sincere ones are going to understand the Quran irrespective of their language.

Those who can read Arabic can appreciate the excellence of the literary structure of the Quran. Those who do not, can appreciate the excellence of the message by reading the Quran in any language.

Getting the message and enjoying the literary excellence of the Quran are two different matters, for example, contemporary Arabs of Muhammad's era listened to the Quran and appreciated its literary excellence but many of them did not believe then (e.g. Abu Jahl and Abu Lahab).

The Quran is a book of a message. God states quite clearly in the Quran that He does not want muslims to face any hardship in following the Quran; i.e. you don't have to learn Arabic to understand and get its message.
It is the message of the Quran that actually counts and it is the part of the Quran that can be translated.

Now why was the Quran revealed in Arabic? It may be due to the efficiency and accuracy of the language.

As for reciting the Prayers in Arabic, specifically reciting surah Al-Fatiha, it has a lot to do with the fact that the Quran is mathematically composed. Believe it or not, when you recite surah al-fatiha ("the Key"), the Arabic sounds of "The Key" represent a numerical combination (you can learn about that in the above link). A translation of "The Key" would be human-made.

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WA.

but the order in which we have it in the book form is human

Wrong. The order of the Quran is divinely inspired.

 

[mitth]

You are pray in any Language ALLAH Listen every Language...........
And ALLAH Listen every Pray Whether any you use any language.........

 

[VCheng]

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Wrong. The order of the Quran is divinely inspired.

You are the one who is wrong here, Sir.

For the first two years after Muhammad's (PBUH) death, there were many different versions of the Quran, including different orders of the content, and all were represented as authentic. Hazrat Abubakr RA had these written down. Later, Hazrat Usman selected one of those variations and went on an active campaign to destroy all other versions. Even then, various forms of recitation caused differences in meaning, and thus the final addition of diacritical marks much later during the Umayyad dynasty, as indicated above, produced the form of the Quran that we widely accept today as authentic.

"Divinely inspired" it may be, but the present form of the Quran evolved as indicated above.

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

Assalam alaikum

The order remained same and when usman r-a allowed only one copy there were many compainions including ALI r-a and nobody objected on it

VCheng brother r u shia sorry to ask u

TARIQ

 

[VCheng]

Assalam alaikum

The order remained same and when usman r-a allowed only one copy there were many compainions including ALI r-a and nobody objected on it

VCheng brother r u shia sorry to ask u

TARIQ

WA.

No Sir, different serial ordering was well known for the first two years after the Prophet's death.

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

What difference does the compilation period or order or surahs make when we dont really follow the book? Something to consider!

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

Assalam alaikum

Brother forget what was there that was their personnal notes etc, when usman r-a distributed the copy of quran did any companion objected on the order including ALI r-a

TARIQ